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To wonder on the future of generous welfare in the UK

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happybug1234 · 11/05/2026 12:51

It seems increasingly obvious that many middle-income families are becoming frustrated at how squeezed they are financially, while at the same time seeing people on universal credit receive a growing range of subsidies and support — £1 attraction tickets on days out, a 6% rise in benefits this financial year, childcare costs reclaimable through Universal Credit, housing benefit, and so on. I see thread after thread on this on this site and also increasing momentum in the media on this issue (income cliff edges etc)

In my own extended family, 1 unemployed parent with the other on min wage, in social housing appear to have more holidays and more disposable income than we do, despite us both working full time with a household income of around £95k. Once childcare, mortgage, insurances, commuting and tax are taken into account, we 100% have a lower level of disposable income than they do as they do not have any of these work related costs and their rent is paid. They have recently gone on a 2 week holiday whilst the most we can ever afford is 1 week.

Quite a few teachers in my friendship circle are declining promotion opportunities or TLR because the extra pay often doesn’t feel worth the additional stress once tax, pension contributions and childcare costs are factored in. Instead, some are putting more effort into private tutoring, which is tax free cash in hand.

What is stopping the government from addressing this as people seek to be responding accordingly in their behaviour!

OP posts:
Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 20:28

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:24

PP is a single mum.
When did MN turn into a place that hated them so much?

I work with mums that work 40 hours plus per week. I have no hatred for single mums, but I don’t have respect for those that expect others to pick up the bill whilst they have a little part time job.

monday1983 · 11/05/2026 20:29

askmenow · 11/05/2026 19:22

Never mind cutting benefits for pensioners who have likely paid into the system all their lives!
Yes by all means assess for eligibility. Very wealthy pensioners could likely forgo their pensions.

It’s oretty inevitable the triple lock will go.

1/ Remove all benefits to foreign born persons who are not in FULL TIME work contributing by paying their taxes.

2/ No housing benefits for foreigners

3/ Remove all benefits from…. any and all the dependents of foreign born workers…..”if you cannot sustain yourself and your family in our country, you have to leave”
When you are of no benefit to our country, leave

4/ The UK is not the welfare state of the world.
……We simply cannot afford to offer welfare to all the underprivileged of the world.

5/ Detain all illegal migrants and incentivise them to leave voluntarily. Hopefully we already have finger prints and facial recognition to ID the boat people. (If Border Force were doing their jobs)

Then forcibly deport the rest back to the last safe country they came from.
Load them onto the eurotunnel trains and drop them back t’other side
Looking 👀 at you France!

6/ No rights of settlement in the UK before 10 years working here and being a net contributor to the economy. We do not want hangers-on.

7/ A wealth tax on the top 1% of the UK residents Much like Switzerland , Finland and others do.
Use this to build affordable homes. We need these for our young people and families.
(People who are never able to put down firm roots are not invested in making this country better or indeed having children.

Wealthy landowners and those with inherited wealth/ assets need to be forced to pay more into the treasury, not use any avoidance scheme they can get away with

I am totally incensed that this shyster
Government constantly punishes British workers, including the professional middle classes,and doles out benefits to people not even born here.
Labour are buying votes!

The problem with is that most foreign people who claim benefits have already got British citizenship . I know a few whose main reasons for citizenship was that they wouldn't want to lose benefits if the law changes in the future.

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:29

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 20:28

I work with mums that work 40 hours plus per week. I have no hatred for single mums, but I don’t have respect for those that expect others to pick up the bill whilst they have a little part time job.

Do the mums that work 40 hours have a partner?

PP is a single mum. She can claim benefits, or get funded childcare. What would you prefer to pay?

IDontHateRainbows · 11/05/2026 20:31

Itchthescratch · 11/05/2026 15:02

That isn't true, especially if you are lucky enough to rent social housing. You have secure housing at below market rate. You could invest the excess money in stocks and shares that often outperforms the housing market. You also avoid having to pay interest payments on mortgage payments. You can enjoy an excellent standard of living, enjoy your money and then have no assets to sell when you need a care home.

Plus if anything ever goes wrong or needs replacing, not your job!

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 20:33

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:29

Do the mums that work 40 hours have a partner?

PP is a single mum. She can claim benefits, or get funded childcare. What would you prefer to pay?

No they don’t. Sorry my post should have said single mums! I work with single mums who work 40 hours plus.

And I have already responded re the childcare question.

Wynter25 · 11/05/2026 20:33

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 20:22

And there you have it, “entitled”. Says it all. Fingers crossed that the gravy train will end soon for people like you.

Single parent. With no support to watch kids to be able to work longer hours. And the kids dad was an abusive prick. So another reason why i want my kids to have so much of me until i can work longer hours.

Plugg · 11/05/2026 20:33

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:29

Do the mums that work 40 hours have a partner?

PP is a single mum. She can claim benefits, or get funded childcare. What would you prefer to pay?

Funded childcare obviously. Even if it costs more than it pays in tax it’s better to keep them used to full time work than normalise only half working half skiving..

Kirbert2 · 11/05/2026 20:33

Florich · 11/05/2026 20:00

This situation won’t last forever with benefits. Everyone is struggling and eventually benefits will be cut. UC, PIP etc, esp for MH/ND, I am sure. If I lived off benefits, I would try and save every penny for the future up to the max allowed. And look for work if I could. It’s an uncertain future for everyone.

I have nothing left to save and I'm unable to work. I'm absolutely terrified of what the future holds.

OonaStubbs · 11/05/2026 20:34

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:29

Do the mums that work 40 hours have a partner?

PP is a single mum. She can claim benefits, or get funded childcare. What would you prefer to pay?

She could get neither?

Plugg · 11/05/2026 20:35

Wynter25 · 11/05/2026 20:33

Single parent. With no support to watch kids to be able to work longer hours. And the kids dad was an abusive prick. So another reason why i want my kids to have so much of me until i can work longer hours.

And? Work full time like any other parent of young kids. You’re not special

Wynter25 · 11/05/2026 20:35

Plugg · 11/05/2026 20:35

And? Work full time like any other parent of young kids. You’re not special

Hahaahah

SquirrelSoShiny · 11/05/2026 20:35

Plugg · 11/05/2026 15:39

People that work to pay for those benefits are tired of it. They want the money focused on improving public services for everyone too. Currently it feels like all the extra tax we are paying is funnelled purely into the black hole of rising welfare.

Pretty much this. This sums up where I'm at.

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:35

Plugg · 11/05/2026 20:33

Funded childcare obviously. Even if it costs more than it pays in tax it’s better to keep them used to full time work than normalise only half working half skiving..

PP has a job, and it is hopefully in the same place she can up her hours.
What is so wrong with this?
The system allows it, and her employer does too.

It is that, or you pay childcare for her. I am sure it is better for her to spend time with her baby than to punt them into a nursery.

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 20:35

Wynter25 · 11/05/2026 20:33

Single parent. With no support to watch kids to be able to work longer hours. And the kids dad was an abusive prick. So another reason why i want my kids to have so much of me until i can work longer hours.

I work with single mums who work 40 hours plus. Most of them have kids that never see their dads.16 hours is pathetic.

Whatalunatic · 11/05/2026 20:36

happybug1234 · 11/05/2026 13:15

Tho is it also. If I fall in hard times there is very little welfare for me as we have a mortgage and so wouldn’t be entitled to universal credit.

well that's not exactly true, is it?

Wynter25 · 11/05/2026 20:37

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:35

PP has a job, and it is hopefully in the same place she can up her hours.
What is so wrong with this?
The system allows it, and her employer does too.

It is that, or you pay childcare for her. I am sure it is better for her to spend time with her baby than to punt them into a nursery.

2 will be with childminder and one starting school september. Can only get 2 with childminder in 3 days a week.

Wynter25 · 11/05/2026 20:38

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 20:35

I work with single mums who work 40 hours plus. Most of them have kids that never see their dads.16 hours is pathetic.

Read my latest comment. I cant do more hours atm. And least im working..

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:39

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 20:35

I work with single mums who work 40 hours plus. Most of them have kids that never see their dads.16 hours is pathetic.

What jobs are they in? Surely the hours they can do depends on the work.

SerenaCat93 · 11/05/2026 20:40

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:35

PP has a job, and it is hopefully in the same place she can up her hours.
What is so wrong with this?
The system allows it, and her employer does too.

It is that, or you pay childcare for her. I am sure it is better for her to spend time with her baby than to punt them into a nursery.

And what about my baby? I miss her when I'm working 40 hours a week to pay taxes and my mortgage. Wouldn't all young kids benefit if their mothers just stopped working more than part time for years? What would happen to our economy then though?

No one is paying for me to work part time and play with my daughter all day!

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:41

SerenaCat93 · 11/05/2026 20:40

And what about my baby? I miss her when I'm working 40 hours a week to pay taxes and my mortgage. Wouldn't all young kids benefit if their mothers just stopped working more than part time for years? What would happen to our economy then though?

No one is paying for me to work part time and play with my daughter all day!

Edited

Do you get maternity leave?

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 20:42

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:39

What jobs are they in? Surely the hours they can do depends on the work.

Legal, HR, sales…and I have friends outside work in a variety of jobs working full time as single parents. It’s really not unusual.

SerenaCat93 · 11/05/2026 20:42

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:41

Do you get maternity leave?

Of course I had maternity leave m I had to go back to work when she was 9 months old to pay my bills.

Why should the rest of us have to leave our babies so some can just stay at home more because it's nice and get their bills paid?

EdithBond · 11/05/2026 20:43

Florich · 11/05/2026 20:23

Yes but governments will be reactive and cut what’s in front of them. Forward planning isn’t their forte. And it’s certainly not the case in the public sector where I work. Immediate cuts rather then long term planning all the way.

Exactly.

Same with health. If you cut and cut social security, more and more people become unwell (due to atrocious housing conditions, poor nourishment, stress, lack of sleep etc etc). And then it costs the NHS a fortune. Not to mention social care. Which is what’s actually happened since 2011.

Prevention is always both better and cheaper than cure.

But the public don’t often consider that and demand more and more cuts to benefits. Which they think will have absolutely no consequences.

XenoBitch · 11/05/2026 20:43

Boohoo76 · 11/05/2026 20:42

Legal, HR, sales…and I have friends outside work in a variety of jobs working full time as single parents. It’s really not unusual.

So not a NMW xero hour job then.
They are worlds apart.

Wynter25 · 11/05/2026 20:43

SerenaCat93 · 11/05/2026 20:42

Of course I had maternity leave m I had to go back to work when she was 9 months old to pay my bills.

Why should the rest of us have to leave our babies so some can just stay at home more because it's nice and get their bills paid?

Get their bills paid?! The only one i dont pay is rent but i do for everything else.

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