To think Keir Starmer might resign tomorrow (Monday)

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I think he might. But who knows. He must know he can't possibly stay until the next General Election. It's very disrespectful to the electorate to not listen.

There doesn't seem to be a clear frontrunner @previouslyknownas ! I think a lot of people feel like that.

I wouldn't mind Ed Miliband I think he seems okay but I doubt many would agree!

Yes. This is more important than any of the other guff. He has to take responsibility for the failure to get his welfare reforms through - that and agreeing to the bonkers energy policy making running any sort of small business almost unviable..the lack of leadership and respect from his MPs makes his position untenable. Even if some people on here want it to be different it isn’t and it simply isn’t going to get better. Realistically he should amicably step down now and support a new leader. Obviously that isn’t going to happen.

I’d go for streeting. Not sure the Labour Party would though..

@Unreleasedbillable, because I am not game playing. I am not a labour supporter, but over and above that I do want a functioning government.

It’s more like stuff like Digital ID for example
not in the manifesto - never mentioned at all

then all of a sudden within a year - we need it

And he’s hell bent on bringing it in
blaming it on the small boats ,illegal immigrant as one of the reasons for it

Why - why when we are in so much debt as a country is this being pushed so bloody hard

we aren’t in china ( yet ) but if we are all forced to have digital ID then we might as well be 😂

You're certainly showing that the general public are no better than politicians, in any case, although I'm not sure that's what you intended.

Except for Ange, who apparently got so drunk in the House of Commons last week that she crashed into a door and broke it.

Really? Were you there with her when this happened?

I had wondered if the digital ID was to prevent tax evasion @previouslyknownas but agree I don't want that either.

Wes Streeting is a much better communicator and people seem to want more of a 'celeb' type person now, like with Trump. So maybe he would be better, or Andy Burnham. Whoever gets the job will get torn down by the billionaire newspaper owners and GB news so good luck to them.

Ed Milliband shafted his own brother David in the Labour Party leadership race some years ago. Then when he lost a general election he then proposed Jeremy Corbyn as the new party leader. And the rest is history.

As a result I can't bear to listen to anything he has to say and would never vote for Labour again if he miraculously became the party leader and PM again. 😠

I think he's a placeholder for Burnham now, otherwise they'll be handing the next election to Fartage and Deform.

He will hang on by his fingernails for as long as possible. His bosses need him there.

Whoever gets the job will get torn down by the billionaire newspaper owners and GB news so good luck to them.

Given Labour’s current disdain for being accountable to parliament and refusal to answer questions as PM question time, a media that actually asks difficult questions, criticises them and hold them accountable for their actions is vital.

"Let me make this crystal clear"
"I'm not going to be drawn into any arguments"
I don't give a SAUSAGE"

"I'm here to stay!"

As he’s repeatedly said he’ll stay, I don’t think he’ll resign tomorrow - or any time soon - unless he’s forced to by MPs mounting a leadership challenge.

If he’s forced to resign, I think he’ll negotiate with the new leader that he’ll stay until summer recess or conference recess. I think that is good for continuity and so the new leader to get a proper plan in place for where they’ll take the party.

I like KS and think he’s got good morals and a good heart, but I think he’s been an awful PM. I think he’d be a good foreign secretary though, so I’d like for whoever replaces him to choose him as their foreign sec.

No, Milliband did not propose Corbyn. He did not nominate any of the candidates.

On the subject of the thread, I very much doubt Starmer will resign tomorrow. Whether he survives is another question, but the Labour left are reported to be in a panic because they fear that Streeting's chances of becoming prime minister have gone up. Burnham's supporters have tried to get West to back down, but she has refused. It is believed Streeting has enough backers to trigger a contest, so he could get them to back West. The main candidates would almost certainly be Streeting and Rayner, and Burnham's allies think Rayner's opponents have enough stories they can brief to the media to destroy her campaign. The left believe that the Burnham-Milliband-Haigh push for an orderly transition to Burnham has backfired and opened the door for Streeting, who they see as continuity Starmer.

If these reports are correct, the Labour left will be doing everything they can to block West's challenge in order to stop Streeting.

What a bunch of clowns.

I hope so, but I doubt it

Why? Don't be ridiculous. Yes, Reform might have gained some control of councils.
That doesn't mean they speak for everyone though!
People seem to be confusing local elections with council elections from what I've seen..
I personally would prefer a stable Prime Minister in Government rather than one that changes every week like what we're used to. That's just a ridiculous clown way to govern, but maybe people have just got used to that recently.

It doesn’t matter what you prefer.

Labour MPs are starting into the abyss. Right now it’s their preference that counts. Have you not seen how this government, and the previous, operates. The PM has no backbone and caves into the first bit of pressure from their backbenchers. That’s why this government is failing. They have failed to do anything meaningful for fear of backbench rebellions.

He’s the embodiment of the Labour left on here

Of course not. This is the Labour Party. They've cleverly arranged it so the leading contender for the job isn't even an MP!

I dont want him to resign. I want him to stay for the full ride to ensure that Labour are completely wiped out at the next GE

@paddleboardingmum the head of octopus enegery is a very interesting man ,a maverick type who seems to have integrity.

He is 100 % behind the green switch however he said he happen at the pace ed wants it it's not realistic.
He also said he would immediately cancel the carbon capture exercise. He said the money is better spent on proven green projects.carbon is not proven. Like many experts said at the time !!

Or - alternatively to doing the job that he was voted in for?

One thing he isn’t doing is the job he was voted in for. He was not voted in to collect hundreds of thousands of pounds worth of freebies for himself and his ministers, to fail to tackle immigration, to cut the winter fuel allowance, to give away Chagos, to allow a Chinese spy centre, to fail to prosecute Chinese spies, to call the working class ‘far right’ in response to their anger about being gas lit about a terrorist attack, to bring in euthanasia and abortions to term, to continue the cover up of grooming gangs, to have ministers who dodge taxes the rest of us must pay, to remove jury trials and the right to automatic appeals from magistrate trials (of which currently 40% succeed), to appoint more peers to the House of Lords than the last few PMs put together to try and load it in his favour, to cancel local elections, to allow antisemitism to explode across DS the country, to actively encourage businesses and the public sector to break the law by failure to remove unlawful statutory guidance that directs them to do so…. None of these things are minor things or were in his manifesto. The fact he has been unsuccessful in many does not negate what he is doing.