Council Elections

[OneTealShaker]

The first declared seats going to Reform.

Reform +2
Labour -1

Buckle up people.

Right? Are you attempting to imply I’m left wing?

I don’t have any political affiliation whatsoever. I am a pragmatist and rationalist and make decisions based on evidence and data.

You should try it.

I’m not obsessive about anything. I’m just sick (as many are) of reading nonsense views pretending that “everyone’s opinions are equal” even if some are based on evidence and data and some are just prejudices and made up nonsense, and sick of reading that everyone else is to blame for the plight of the poor Reform voters who were forced to vote for self-harm by other people telling them that it was stupid to shoot yourself in the foot.

I have no qualms about stating that people who continually do stupid things over and over again and don’t learn from them are stupid. That is the definition of stupid.

It’s pathetic and I think many, many people are sick of listening to it now. If people want to vote for their local services to collapse then at least this time it will be a localised problem and they can suffer the consequences of their decision and, with luck, learn from it. My sympathy is reserved for those living in those areas who didn’t vote for it, but I’m thankful it’s not being inflicted on the entire nation. You can all have little Fairy Godfarage parades in your local area and celebrate and look out for his fairydust to make your dreams come true. Let us know how it goes.

It is utter madness to vote for a party because you think immigration is out of control. What do voters think Reform will do? They'll do nothing but ruin the country.

I sincerely hope British voters have more sense...statistically our population will be too low to support the country soon 😬

And that is how anyone voting who doesn't get the result they wanted feels! Nothing different here the majority will get what they want in their area thr minority won't. That is democracy.

Everyone's opinions are equal when it comes to elections. One vote per person. Maybe that's where Labour are going wrong?

I wouldn’t worry about Reform too much. Once they get to Whitehall and realise how hard it is to actual govern, and that you can’t just “send them back” or “stop the boats” without breaking international law, their moronic support will move on to whoever the Daily Mail tells them to support next.

The real tragedy will be to the national discourse, but from a policies standpoint I can’t see them managing much.

What you mean the population of those working.
I agree.

Again, trying to blame other people for idiots making idiotic decisions.

They will have to own the consequences I’m afraid.

And their pleas for endless subsidy from other areas of the country will increasingly fall of deaf ears given they have made other people’s lives worse, so understandably we have less inclination and capacity now to continually prop them up.

Natural consequences. If people want to behave like toddlers then presumably the only way they will learn is the way that we teach toddlers that actions have consequences: you won’t wear your coat, you get cold. You throw your ice cream on the floor, you can’t eat the ice cream. You constantly try to gaslight the people paying for much of your community’s living costs and vote in ways that make them poorer as well, then you’ll get less sympathy and money from them. If you vote for a local council that will collapse your local services then don’t complain when your local services get worse.

As I said, some people have to learn the hard way and clearly haven’t developed the reasoning of an average 3 year old.

I don’t know what gives you the impression that I’m from ‘the left’. I’m an employer operating in the real world. There is economic and social damage coming our way if Reform win a lot of seats.

Don’t worry, it seems to be the OP’s attempted “insult” to levy against anybody who disagrees with their nonsense: apparently not supporting Farage makes you left wing even if nothing you said had anything to do with a left/ right political viewpoint and in the OP’s view being “left wing” is equivalent to being satanic so just levying this accusation at any poster who isn’t a Farage Fan will discredit them. Hilarious!

So in what way do you believe they will cause economic and societal damage more than the shit show the country is already in.

I hope you’re right. Reform have gained a lot in my area. I despair of people around me.

LOL, well the Left can't say that it wasn't warned.

I've just got back from my local election count. 9 seats up for grabs. All won by Reform UK. 1 seat was postponed due to death of Labour candidate so will be run in June.

They have….which is why they’re tanking, labour voters no longer want to vote for them because of what they’ve become and it doesn’t attract reform voters because they’re not voting for policies anyway, they can’t, reform don’t have fully formed policies yet as they keep saying tonight on the election coverage.

This post exhibits the OP’s delusion in all of its glory.

If Farage was smart he’d have realised that he can’t even find competent candidates to fill a few MP positions who aren’t fraudsters, thugs convicted of domestic violence, people who have made shockingly racists comments etc. He has hugely stitched himself up I think because all of the councils that end up being run by Reform will be a shitshow and maybe even the slower members of the population will then realise how incapable these people are, if they can’t even deal with potholes etc and their Council tax bills keep going up not down.

The people he has managed to “recruit” to run Councils they have won previously were even more incompetent than their MPs (so comical it’s at the level of Spitting Image or Blackadder so in previous times nobody would actually have thought it plausible that this could be real rather than comedy sketch material). One Council ended up being run by a 19 year old! Without exception council tax bills in Reform controlled council areas have increased and what was left of council services in these areas before Reform took over has collapsed, obviously, because only incompetent idiots would consider being involved in Reform in the first place. They have raised Council tax hugely (despite pledging to cut it) and decimated local services despite pledging to improve them.

Let’s hope that all of the areas full of people as deluded as the OP get exactly what they have voted for, and develop the reasoning of a primary school child and perhaps then the reality might finally dawn on them that voting for yet more of this next time isn’t really a good idea. Although probably, true to form, they’ll desperately try to find somebody else to blame because nobody can criticise the Fairy Godfarage who will magically make everything perfect. The delusion is off the charts and it will be quite funny to watch what happens over the next few months after their little victory rallies waving Union Jacks around.

Many of us tried our best to help these intellectually challeged people but perhaps it’s now time to let nature take its course, withdraw our subsidy and let them deal with the reality that they have voted for over and over again. I am reminded of this:

Agree with what you’re saying but remember when you say all of these people in those areas get what’s coming - I’m in an area that’s now reform, I voted labour and am sick to my stomach reform got in. The racism in our country is at an all time high. You should be ashamed of yourselves all of the reform voters.

The damage Labour has done, and continue to do affects us all.

I am so sorry for people in your situation and have stated this in multiple posts. It must be horrendous for you and others like you and I have huge sympathy for those who are going to be subject to this who didn’t vote for it. Much like what was inflicted on the whole nation by these idiots in 2016 and in subsequent years.

If I was you, honestly, I would move somewhere else. I couldn’t live in a place where I knew a significant enough minority of people held such abhorrent and idiotic views and were prepared to inflict this on others.

Just seen the most recent results.
Where am I living now?
How short sighted can people be?
Why do humans have such an ability to design their own self inflicted suffering?

I have hope this will be a painful blip, when it comes to light that they really can ruin a country much faster than reform a country because running a country is actually a complex interconnected web and a not a singular issue.

Thank you. My whole life is here I couldn’t leave there are many good people here who are as outraged as we are. But it is sickening that potentially people I work with or are my children’s friends parents who have voted reform.

Anti women? Labour and greens struggle to even define women.

As for the NHS, a lot of people struggle to get a look in no dentists and sat in corridors etc. Could be the entire world now using our NHS x

They’ve been a useless Government and done precisely the opposite of what they said they would. Many of us knew that this would be the case before the last election.

I understand why you’re particularly peeved at them, given you are a landlord of multiple properties. But they’ve made life worse for almost every person in the UK through what they’ve done since the election because they have impoverished the country further by stoking a toxic combiantion of higher inflation, high interest rates and high borrowing at the same time with no realistic plan to address any of these issues or deal with them by creating growth and pretty much every measure introduced doing the opposite. If they’d done nothing at all since being elected then the UK would be more prosperous than it is now. That’s quite an achievement when inheriting a broken economy with numerous obvious measures to improve things obviously available.

And obviously we all know how we got to the situation that they inherited: by the unacceptable economic mismanagement of their predecessors. Not that that excuses Labour of making it worse, of course, but it does make Badenoch’s ridiculous claims that somehow she could possibly be a credible PM laughable.

None of that, however, negates the fact that Farage would be far, far, far worse than any administration that the UK has had in the last couple of hundred years at least. It’s not even up for debate given the insanity of pretty much everything that he proposes, which no sane person who understands economics would ever support even if it was possible to implement, and most of it isn’t.

This is the epitomy of ignorance is bliss... That adrenaline rush won't last long when they trash councils through stupidity and lack of moral values. The only silver lining could be the inevitable continued own goals and ruining of any semblance of decency in politics will come back to roost... But not before they've significantly ruined great British institutions and people's quality of life, sadly. Its like watching a car crash happen with no way to apply the breaks before it tips over the cliff edge.

I think the Greens have taken over the mantle of nasty party . Reform doing well tonight is just giving the mainstream two a bloody nose because people are sick and tired of the piss poor state of this country . Reform aren’t the answer but the other two have not listened and as for the shitshow of Labour they should know you can’t run a country based on ideology . They have had the biggest opportunity and have completely wasted it bringing this country on a ruinous trajectory.

So depressing. It must be horrendous to have a large proportion of your community holding such unpleasant and irrational views. I hope that you and your family, and others like you who aren’t involved in this, do not suffer from the horrible consequences that will follow.