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AIBU to hope the greens do very well today?

469 replies

ForGreenHiker · 07/05/2026 15:34

That’s it really. go Zack! 💚

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TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 16:25

AmberSpy · 07/05/2026 15:54

Ah yes, the two parties fielding candidates in this election - Reform and the Greens.

Well, the polls suggest they are the parties most likely to make gains (other than the odd LibDems), but I guess we will need to wait and see...

Screamingabdabz · 07/05/2026 16:25

As a woman, the Greens getting any kind of power is very scary.

TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 16:27

ForGreenHiker · 07/05/2026 15:54

By voting for the only party in the uk lead by a Jewish person. Okaaaay…

Do you think Reform is an anti-Muslim party as many claim it is (including the Greens)?

TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 16:28

MyTrivia · 07/05/2026 16:07

Where I live it’s currently Greens vs Reform. Reform horrifies me. Im glad to hear it isn’t like that nationwide..

Gosh, I hope it's not support for the Greens nationwide. That would truly horrify me.

TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 16:28

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FernandoSor · 07/05/2026 16:31

Scotiasdarling · 07/05/2026 16:22

But oddly that isn't what I said or suggested. I couldn't actually care less what kind of drugs people buy or where they can buy them if they only use them on themselves. The trouble with date rape drugs is they are made to be used on unwilling victims, and if you legalise all drugs then that includes that kind too.But perhaps you hadn't thought much before you posted.

Again, you don't seem to understand what legalisation means. It does not mean unregulated and freely available. Firearms are legal in the UK, but you cannot buy one no questions asked at the corner shop.

From the Green Party's own website:

"So cannabis might be available for adults to buy over the counter from licenced retailers, but substances such as heroin would be available only on prescription after assessment and with medical intervention."

The drugs that are commonly used as date rape drugs: GHB, ketamine, rohypnol etc would not, under any circumstances, be freely available under the proposed policy.

Craftysue · 07/05/2026 16:31

I've voted Labour as our local councillors have done a pretty good job - not too sure I would vote the same way in a general election. I wouldn't vote Green - I know the candidate personally and I don't agree with his views on things that are important to me.

FlyingApple · 07/05/2026 16:36

Absolutely not if you hate this country.

TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 16:39

FernandoSor · 07/05/2026 16:16

Our Green candidates are not campaigning on national issues at all. From their leaflet:

If elected I will:

  • Promote habitat restoration and create nature corridors to protect the biodiversity of our local area
  • Ensure we have the right people and resources in place to manage our green spaces for everyone
  • Make sure SEND provisions in our schools are properly funded so that no family has to fight for the support their child needs
  • Help our communities grow closer together by supporting local initiatives for young people including sports, arts and culture
  • Give greater support to our key workers and push to improve access to sustainable energy for all
This is a beautiful part of the world and I will dedicate myself to keeping it that way.

And the second candidate:

If elected, I would work for greener, fairer and more accountable local government. That means:

  • Protecting nature and improving community infrastructure
  • Supporting families and young people
  • Pushing for better environmental standards
  • Making sure public money is used ethically and responsibly

I mean, in reality, due to statutory responsibilities that councils have, the only thing on that list your Green councillor will be able to influence is SEND spending. And that's already out of control.

Eskarina1 · 07/05/2026 16:40

WarriorN · 07/05/2026 15:43

Depends who it is.

im a green, and I am horrified by ZP.

30 candidates being investigated for antisensemitsm is not good.

Theyve withdrawn support for two candidates locally thank god, but they should never have been chosen in the first place.

absolutely disgraceful. Zack - who never had a license for hypnotism and said he could make a woman’s boobs bigger, as well as lying about being a spokesperson for the Red Cross, will lap it up and spin the spin.

He should resign in my honest opinion.

There’s a handful of good greens. Those I’d vote for. None locally so I haven’t.

Edited

Noone has licences for hypnotherapy, it's not a licensed profession. He didn't have full membership of a voluntary body, he did have membership. I'm explicitly allowed to say I am a member of my professional body, I'm not yet a full (chartered) member.

Several former employees of the Red Cross have come out and said he absolutely compared events for them, including delivering detailed speeches on their work. This was a regular and voluntary thing. The issues appear to be 1) the wording used sounds like it was a formal thing 2) the red cross explicitly don't want to be tied to any political party.

I'm not a ZP fan but I think the media narrative is deeply dishonest. Saying you're a member of a body and not disclosing the type of membership- for a profession that is in no way regulated and for which he had typical qualifications- is not really newsworthy compared to other politicians issues. How much time have the Times dedicated to this versus other more serious breaches. Add in that 4 papers have printed cartoons of ZP with a large hooked nose and it's a pattern.

I'm not defending the 30 candidates under investigation for antisemitism but I think it's a governance failure and fixable. There are professional services that do social media checks. I think at this point every party should be using them.

Scotiasdarling · 07/05/2026 16:40

FernandoSor · 07/05/2026 16:31

Again, you don't seem to understand what legalisation means. It does not mean unregulated and freely available. Firearms are legal in the UK, but you cannot buy one no questions asked at the corner shop.

From the Green Party's own website:

"So cannabis might be available for adults to buy over the counter from licenced retailers, but substances such as heroin would be available only on prescription after assessment and with medical intervention."

The drugs that are commonly used as date rape drugs: GHB, ketamine, rohypnol etc would not, under any circumstances, be freely available under the proposed policy.

Would you then support the cannabis being heavily taxed to pay for dealing with the psychosis it causes?

Firetreev · 07/05/2026 16:40

I would much rather they prevail than Reform, but that's not saying much.

SpaceRaccoon · 07/05/2026 16:41

I hope they do very badly forever. Their leader is an odious conman and they stink of antisemitism.

TipsyPeachSnake · 07/05/2026 16:41

Miranda65 · 07/05/2026 15:39

YABU. They are anti-Semitic, and that's just the worst of their many faults.

Their leader ZP is Jewish though and called a lot of antisemitism out.

PropertyD · 07/05/2026 16:43

Zp doesnt seem to like Jews very much. Telling them its perceived threat of harm just before that awful stabbing. Saying that the police went too far. In the US that man would be dead.

RobinEllacotStrike · 07/05/2026 16:44

they are utter loons, hate women, are antisemetic & are very very regressive.
ZP is an utter show of a person. Dreadful man.
i can't imagine why anyone would vote for him, let alone women.
I hope they do as poorly as possible.

PropertyD · 07/05/2026 16:44

30 candicates being investigated for AS. Do you see a pattern here.

PropertyD · 07/05/2026 16:46

And Open Borders... what could possibly go wrong. Still the billionaires will pay for them (except you twat - they will have left the country!)

ThisHotMess · 07/05/2026 16:47

I hope they do well too, OP.

Eskarina1 · 07/05/2026 16:47

TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 16:27

Do you think Reform is an anti-Muslim party as many claim it is (including the Greens)?

I think they have made islamaphobic statements. Farage has said "Muslims don't share our values ", as if by being part of a religion people lose all autonomy and individuality. Other spokespeople have said worse.

Like the Greens, they've had extremist candidates (one who argued for "returning the fire" on "islamists" during festivals. But again they are a small party growing quickly so this could just be a governance issue.

TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 16:48

Scotiasdarling · 07/05/2026 16:40

Would you then support the cannabis being heavily taxed to pay for dealing with the psychosis it causes?

I imagine the Greens will expect the nasty rich people to pay for everything. So the cannabis won't be taxed, it will be handed out like sweets on the NHS which will become the biggest organisation ever known to man in terms of spending.

FernandoSor · 07/05/2026 16:49

TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 16:39

I mean, in reality, due to statutory responsibilities that councils have, the only thing on that list your Green councillor will be able to influence is SEND spending. And that's already out of control.

I think county councils have a lot of control over the things that they have listed - particularly the environmental and green spaces issues.

DontReplyAll · 07/05/2026 16:49

Screamingabdabz · 07/05/2026 16:25

As a woman, the Greens getting any kind of power is very scary.

They had some power in Scotland, and it was indeed very scary

FernandoSor · 07/05/2026 16:50

Scotiasdarling · 07/05/2026 16:40

Would you then support the cannabis being heavily taxed to pay for dealing with the psychosis it causes?

Yes, just as I support alcohol and tobacco being heavily taxed.

TeenagersAngst · 07/05/2026 16:50

Eskarina1 · 07/05/2026 16:47

I think they have made islamaphobic statements. Farage has said "Muslims don't share our values ", as if by being part of a religion people lose all autonomy and individuality. Other spokespeople have said worse.

Like the Greens, they've had extremist candidates (one who argued for "returning the fire" on "islamists" during festivals. But again they are a small party growing quickly so this could just be a governance issue.

So if Reform are 'islamophobic' (stupid word made up by an extremist Muslim group), and they have Muslim people in senior positions (Zia Yusuf, Laila Cunningham) - is it fair to say that ZP doesn't get a get out of antisemitism jail free card because he's Jewish? As OP suggested.