AIBU to hope the greens do very well today?

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That’s it really. go Zack! 💚

I feel like he's a conman too. I also think Farage is. Grifter vibes. I won't ever vote for Green or Reform as they both seem like different types of racists.

What I'm trying to ask is, is it a hard line in the sand for you?

Personally, though many will disagree because of his opinions on trans people, I think women's rights are safest with Greens and Zack Polanski. Generally Greens are the most progressive, accepting, inclusive party in terms of ideology. Polanski specifically I think has a good track record of working with, listening to, and platforming women. For example on his poscast he regularly has female guests and I like the way he treats them, never tries to talk for them. He recently had 2 women on to have a really interesting discussion on prison reform for women. So I think as a whole I feel confident with the Greens protecting women's rights.

Andy Wightman voted against and resigned shortly afterwards in protest at the whip. He and other Scottish Green MSP's with environmental interest and credentials have been run out the party in favour of know nothing activists.

In terms of party whips, there have been several standout MSP's who have rebelled and voted with their conscience (and been punished for it). I agree with you that parties who rely on whips are on rather a shoogly peg.

Oh ha ha ha. Right wing parties do get called out for it. Enjoy your unholy alliance.

He recently had 2 women on to have a really interesting discussion on prison reform for women

Does that include keeping people with penises out of the female estate?

Yes it is. On the subject of maternity pay she said :-

“Maternity pay varies on who you work for - but statutory maternity pay is a function of tax, tax comes from people who are working. We’re taking from one group of people and giving to another. This, in my view, is excessive.”

"Businesses are closing, businesses are not starting in the UK, because they say that the burden of regulation is too high.”

"I think it's gone too far - too far the other way in terms of general business regulation."

Those are absolutely the words of somebody who does not agree with statutory maternity pay because it is “excessive”and “has gone too far”.Either you believe all companies should be held to it or you don’t. You certainly don’t describe it as excessive and having gone too far. It absolutely isn’t excessive!

It’s all very well coming out with policies such as the above in order to attract Reform voters but don’t backpedal when you want votes from a wider pool. The words don’t go away.

Deleted as I think I misread a pp!

Which unholy alliance am I in?

I don't believe they discussed it.

What amazed me is that Kemi was called out on this by Jenrick: "I am a father of three young daughters - I want to see them get the support that they need when they enter the workplace."
“Our maternity pay is among the lowest in the OECD.

Quite a feat!

No. All those involved in the podcast are for self ID into female single sex spaces and services.

I know!!!!

No way. They’re the omnicause hate filled far left idiots who took over an environment focussed and progressive party. Not sure why they kept the name.
Open borders. Free houses for everyone…

You think a man who told women he could make their breasts bigger by hypnosis would be a good choice to run the country (in a general election)? A man who pretends he wants to talk to everybody but won’t let Green Women talk about their sex realist views?

You have been taken in by a demagogue.

But that's your interpretation of what she said.

She literally did not say what you're saying she said, which you have handily demonstrated in that quote.

You're correct in that she's criticising it in its current form. But wanting to reform how it works does not equal saying that it shouldn't exist at all, which is what you've decided that she must have meant.

Neither open borders nor free houses for everyone are Green policies

Women's rights are a hard line in the sand for me.

I don't think Zack Polanksi can protect women's rights because I don't think he has the foggiest idea why women need rights. I think his views are just as regressive as any man who pays lip service to the idea of equality until a man's ego or comfort is threatened.

Pending a massive evolutionary leap, there will always be one group of people who have the babies and the miscarriages and the periods and do the breast feeding and who rely on access to contraception, abortions and female specific health care and who have female bodies that can be impregnated without consent and female hips and muscle and fat ratios and if you want to prevent women from being oppressed you have to recognise that they exist in law.

Women in Afghanistan are not being oppressed because they identify with their oppression. They are being oppressed because men have the power to oppress women for physical tangible reasons. The difference between women in the UK and women in Afghanistan is not 'vibes' but laws and rights and provisions that specifically protect women.

The Labour Party have been pretty rubbish on this issue, but they do at least now have some MPs who are able to recognise the consequences of sex.

It’s is what she said!!

And how can you reform statutory maternity pay with out making it no longer statutory?

You think a man who told women he could make their breasts bigger by hypnosis

You don't honestly believe that happened? After he has explained what actually happened multiple times?

Yep, Corbyn's new party with Zarah Sultana seems to have sunk without trace.

Can't imagine why! 😬

Here is Zack on Radio Humberside:

Zack Polanski stood by breast enlargment hypnosis claim - BBC News

Yep. Both too extreme!

Re: maternity rights and leaving aside what KB did or didn't say, if a Green
government takes away women's protections in equality law that leaves the field much more open for a far right government to carry on the job of dismantling women's rights.

Nothing to say that it can't all be a joint effort.

Yes.

For anyone who hasn't heard about Hypotits's claim -

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn9enygvezeo

www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/11/zack-polanski-repeated-claim-hypnosis-can-increase-breast-size-bbc-interview-reveals