To think Starmer will be gone by the end of Friday? Or will it be Monday evening?

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Whoever you are voting for today, it's probably not Labour - they might loose 2,000 seats.

How long exactly will it be before he resigns?

He will happily bend the knee, just not for the country, or electorate.

I know it's only Locals and GE are off in the distance. But clearly Labour will lose seats today and that might be the trigger for a new leadership contest. If it does, I would say that they need to read the room and be very careful about choosing a successor.

We live in precarious times and comrades with ideology and no economic understanding are just not fit for purpose. Rayner would be an absolute disaster and guarantee a loss at the next general election, whilst doing all sorts of damage in the meantime. They need accept that they need a 'soft left' grown up in order to stay in power. Streeting, Burnham (if he can become an MP) or even Miliband are the best of a poor bunch. It's a shame they don't (IMO) have a woman that's fit for the job at the moment, but it's aint Angela.

If it was a general election, I might have considered voting conservative. I’m really worried about the economy at the moment.

However, our local labour Council is brilliant. We have weekly bin emptying, good libraries, trees are regularly maintained and roads are resurfaced. So I voted for three labour candidates. No regrets.

I dare say Labour will LOSE a lot of seats but I expect it will be strongly downplayed by the Labour Party, since it’s ‘only’ local council elections, at least around here. Any party doing badly in these likes to think they’re not really indicative of what will happen in a general election.

That’s covered by ‘shit’.

Starmer’s just a desiccated lawyer cursed with self-destructive overwhelming personal ambition. He is a very narrow thinker. He’s got no political sense or talent.

What I find most surprising about him is that he’s a KC, yet speaks without any charm, or colour or persuasive quality.

Labour elected a dud as leader. Every Labour politician and supporter is well aware of this. Expressions of support for him are just people going through the motions.

Turns out the kid was a terrorist though...... All Starmer did was make it worse in the long term...

They could not look like a bigger pair of twats.

Virtue-signalling twats.

A Rayner-Miliband partnership (I heard a journalist claim that they were cooking up a pact but that's just hearsay) would be such an unmitigated disaster for the UK that we would probably need bailed out. As horrible as the prospect is, maybe it needs to happen to shut down the hard left/Green idiocy for 2029. Taxing the rich until the pips squeak doesn't work, business and wealth creators go elsewhere.

I think Rayner has wisely ruled herself out.

Too many skeletons plus a belated realisation that she lacks what it takes.

As a previous poster has already pointed out to you, the deregulation of the financial markets happened under the Conservative governments of the 80s and early 90s.

And how would that help exactly ?

It's not a general election so no

Just look at them. Honestly, clowns doesn’t even begin to cover it.

No clue - but seen some political journalists on youtube and TV looking at area - did lived there as a student decades ago so caught my eye- they seem to think it will an area to watch. I think it may split between smaller parties but have to wait and see.

I'm in Wales - I can't even vote for a candiate with system it's party lists - and in an area that usually solid Labour with cons second it's a race between Plaid and Reform with Greens third.

We've all had to read how the voting system would work this time and even 17 year old was reading and comparing party manifestos as it's just not clear what or who to go for - been more work than usual.

I'd normally be voting Labour but sadly the only chance of Reform not taking most of the seats in my area is by voting Cons. I live in a cons controlled council. So for the first time ever, I will not be voting Labour and it is going to hurt my soul. I can't believe the state of politics in this country.

"Civil unrest" what like the Swing Riots of the 1830s?

He has done the country proud on an international stage.

I’m cool with my prime minister not being a massive racist tool.

Anyone wanging on about taking the knee is deeply unserious imo.

I really hope the tactical voting works.

He won't be gone, but he'll probably be wondering about his long term position as PM

He wasn’t a terrorist in terms of the official definition, I don’t think. Particularly as he had no real ideology to speak of. He might have been charged with some terrorist offences but that’s not wholly the same thing.

He was extremely mentally unwell - the kind of mentally unwell that is hard to distinguish from just “evil” - and the community had been massively failed by the system that allowed him to remain free to kill until eventually he did.

Either way though, it’s always right to let the police do their job, and never to encourage or condone vigilante justice.

Well…

I don’t massively love Starmer btw. I’m quite drawn to a lot of what the Lib Dem’s are saying.

However, he’s doing a good job in forging vital relationships with other European and democratic powers world wide, which is very delicate work and would be massively undermined by a change in government/ leadership. He’s doing well at theming round some of the colossal damage of Brexit, although it’s slow work.

He’s doing about as well with the economy as can be expected in extremely difficult circumstances.

And all this with a vast right wing network worldwide trying to undermine him.

People who chose who they are voting for in the Local Elections based on their view of the national government are, quite frankly, idiots!

Vote for someone who knows your local community and whose views about what needs to happen locally align with yours, no matter what colour rosette they are wearing.

Local councillors can't change national tax policy or national education policy. What they can do is push national government for more money to be given to councils to try and restore some of what we have lost over the past 16 years.

Vote for the candidate that wants to restore youth services and libraries, who wants to bring back community events and support local organisations with small amounts of seed funding to provide invaluable services.

The one who cares about the local environment and wants to ensure that parks are well maintained, the one who helps to organise litter picking and community painting parties.

The one who thinks that adult social care and children's services need significantly more investment, the one who understands that councils have lost almost 10% of their overall funding in real terms since 2010 but with the increasing population it actually equates to a reduction of 18% per person.

Vote for the person that is willing to push and hold national government to account for that cut in funding, even if it is their own party. For the one that is more interested in making life better for local residents than scoring political points. For the one who understands local issues and doesn't just bang on about national ones.

Your local vote is arguably more important than your national vote as it is your local council's decision that have the biggest impact on your day to day lives - don't use it as a protest vote like the people who used to use the MEP vote as a protest (because we know what that resulted in)

If your Labour, Green, Lib Dem, Plaid, Tory or even Reform councillor or candidate talks sense about the issues in your local area that are important to you and aren't just banging a single issue drum, you would be absolutely foolish to vote for someone else because you don't like the party on a national scale and would deserve everything you get as your local services continue to be run into the ground!

Local elections are really good at putting pressure on at national level. Plus Scotland and Wales results.