Vaping while pushing pram?

[Clover96]

My baby is 7 days old today, first baby so everything is still new and my emotions a bit up and down.

Am I being overly cautious / unreasonable about this though, because I really don't see how I am.

Would you find it acceptable to take baby out in the pram and have a vape at the same time? They have the opinion that it's fine because you wouldn't be directly blowing it in their face or in their direction, there's "things like car fumes too", and there's no way they'd want to go on hour walk with baby without the vape.

No absolutely not. And in addition to the potential health risks to the baby it looks unbelievably chavvy. Yes, I know that MN hates that word but sometime no other will do.

There is a vast difference between privately thinking something and coming on a forum labelling people as trashy, uneducated, skanky etc because they do something that actually could be of benefit to their health if they are using it to quit a worse habit.

Yes everyone judges, but it doesn’t always need to be said in such a cruel and belittling way.

What I find funny is that nobody is commenting on the health implications for the baby (probably because they are negligible when outside) but just on how grim it looks. Well I don’t walk down the street and immediately judge or care so much about how a stranger looks. Certainly not enough to spout vitriol about it online. If they were drink driving it would obviously be different because it’s a danger to others and should be called out.

Good for you. You do know it is a public forum where people view their opinions don't you?

Of course. It’s just a shame people can’t do it a more respectful way. I doubt anyone would speak like this in real life.

I don't see a problem if they stop for a vape outdoors, away from the baby.

DH smoked cigarettes for years and all around the time we had DDs, but always outdoors and away from them. He now vapes. I wish he would give up for his own health, but it is a serious addiction and I honestly think there are far worse things in life in other terms.

wow! 😂

The study did not look at never smokers.

They looked at 'never-regular-smokers' who selected the description, 'I have never been a smoker (ie, smoked for a year or more).'

The 1 in 7 figure does not refer to regular vapers but to 'current vapers' which was anyone who 'reported using an e-cigarette', including those who had been vaping for less than a week and those who vaped less than once a week.

So that 1 in 7 figure includes an unknown number of young people who smoked for up to a year, we don't know how long ago, and who are now vaping (perhaps since just last week) because they're still struggling with cravings, or who have an occasional vape while out socialising because they know this is a situation which makes them prone to relapse.

It's not a completely useless study because it uses the Smoking Toolkit data and they have asked exactly the same questions year after year, so it's useful for tracking changes over time.

But these findings cannot be compared with ASH's data because the definitions are so different.

Getting your dad to change his clothes after he has a cigarette is way over the top. I'm sure even a doctor would agree with me!

I was just going to say this. People feel morally superior to people who vape sometimes. It’s very bizarre. Vapers get a kicking worse than any other cohort on here.

No they wouldn’t this is what you are supposed to do

Any doctors on Mumsnet?

you think a doctor would say yes hold a baby after smoking in the same clothes you just smoked in?