To think Kemi Badenoch is starting to talk an increasing amount of sense

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Never voted conservative a day in my life.

Seriously comsidering it after recent performances

And now Reform has taken some of the mad right-wing nut jobs out of the Tory party, I think they are increasingly electable. I'm not sure her front bench is deep enough, but there are some decent people on the back benches she can bring back in a year or two, particularly Tugendhat and maybe even Rishi.

I read an article in the Times at the weekend profiling some really decent Liberals too, but whilst Ed Davey has got them this far, his stunts and history with the Post Office probably rule them out, but I wouldn't mind another Lib-Con coalition. (Libs also have a few nut-jobs).

It's allowed.

Saiqa Ali posted a picture of an armed man in a Hamas headband with the slogan “Resistance is Freedom”.

Same. Labour / left seem to be struggling today and likely more so tomorrow onwards, but don’t take it out on here.

Except in a constituency election where the two front runners are the Greens or Reform then it really is a question of either/ or.

Unless of course you want to vote for a party with no chance of winning that constituency just for a sense of moral superiority - but it will be a pointless vote.

The poster has given you the exact context which proves it isn't false.

I'll never vote Tory however I do agree she has improved the credibility of the Tory party (from an extremely low bar it has to be said).

However, rewind a few weeks and she was briefly very supportive of the totally pointless and economically disatrous US war against Iran .

I specifically referred to Badenoch supporting Timothy’s comments on Muslims praying, which Robinson had endorsed. It’s all very clear and very traceable. If Badenoch and Robinson both agree with Timothy’s specific comments on Muslims, are they not aligned? If a Labour MP (or any other) had made those comments on a religious group, I’d feel exactly the same level of rage and disgust. I expected Badenoch to be tougher on Timothy.

Nope. Alignment as alluded to has not been proven.

Pp didn't suggest that the tories are aligned with the EDL, but that the ex leader of the EDL has endorsed views of the Tories. Which is true.

Kemi Badenoch backs Nick Timothy after he calls Islamic public prayers ‘act of domination’ | Conservatives | The Guardian https://share.google/S0jN8WPjgEIswFrmS

Wasn’t objecting to your grammar. I was objecting to “porcine eyes.”

If Timothy and Robinson see Muslim public prayer as an ‘act of domination’ and Badenoch agrees/supports the comments, then how are they not aligned on this? It would be a different story if Badenoch has condemned Timothy and his comments. But she didn’t.

Badenoch defends wanting to ban pro-Palestine marches for spreading hate, but not Tommy Robinson ones
Kemi Badenoch also used her Today interview to defend her argument that pro-Palestine marches should be banned because they platform antisemitism, but that marches organised by the far-right activist Tommy Robinson should be allowed.
Badenoch defends seeking a ban on pro-Palestine marches but not Tommy Robinson ones – as it happened | Politics | The Guardian

Here you are, another example (with citation) of her alignment with EDL co founder, Tommy Robinson.

It's not evidence she supports everything he does, the EDL, or anything other than exactly what @Sherbs12 said.

She did suggest that! Read her posts. She used the word alignment in one post, then seemingly aligned in another.
Not sacking Timothy does not prove that the tories are aligned with the EDL.
Misinformation should be called out, even when its about a politician that you don't like.

Yes to all of that.. in fact the Labour Party has stopped business / economic growth. Small businesses are closing, there are fewer jobs available. Ironic isn't it them being called Labour, and all. Last thing they seem to encourage is actual labour. They deny growth, optimism and aspiration - and they encourage business closure, job loss, and benefits culture.

So is Starmer aligned with paedophiles? Or would that be false too?

She said they were aligned with the co founder of the EDL:

Perhaps Badenoch supporters are ok with this alignment with the co-founder of the EDL

I've yet to see Starmer say anywhere he agrees with the thinking that its ok for adults to have sex with children, but if you've got some evidence, then sure.

Under her leadership, the Tories have received an endorsement from Tommy Robinson - even he recognised that just a few years ago her shadow justice’s secretary Nick Timothy’s comments on Muslims praying in London as being ‘an act of domination’ would have seen him sacked. And yet, Badenoch has supported him and said he was defending ‘British values.’ So what can we infer from that?

This is what pp said. Nothing there is a lie.

Have paedophiles endorsed Starmer's views? No.

Desperate stuff from you wafflebomb, and very, very distasteful.

Ah, so disinformation is fine, as long as it goes in one direction. Got it.

I said ‘perhaps they are ok’ or happy to ‘overlook’ it - perhaps many are not: you tell me. Are you comfortable with Timothy’s comments, Robinson’s endorsement and Badenoch’s support?

I’m not a lone, radical voice in this - there has been plenty of coverage on this!

If you think Sherbs is spreading disinformation report to mnhq as it is in breach of Talk guidelines.

You simply can't entertain the prospect that Badenoch might actually, occasionally, back the wrong horse.

I notice you didn't c&p any of the parts where the pp uses the word alignment.
Desperate stuff indeed.

😂'wtf is the environment'

And don't forget - 'open borders'