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Please vote on Thursday even if you think all the options are depressing - there's always a worst case scenario

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CurdinHenry · 03/05/2026 20:53

And we can at least vote to stop that happening

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MayDaySunshinePlease · 03/05/2026 22:55

Northermcharn · 03/05/2026 21:49

Wow... it really hasn't. I never cease to be amazed by how flippant people are about women's rights. Disgusting, it really is. And imbecilic,

Yep! Scary isn't it!

in our area it's between Conservatives & Lib Dem (only about 20% of the vote goes to all the other parties) & they just bitch about each other. Neither been great re a local issue. I'll vote, but in reality it'll make f'all difference & I haven't decided which is the least awful
option yet.

Northermcharn · 03/05/2026 23:08

CloudPop · 03/05/2026 22:12

Accidentally voted the wrong way. Yes please - people must vote - think of everyone who died for the right to do so. We really can’t complain about outcomes if we don’t vote.

I don't know. Having the right to vote is important. Having the choice whether or not to exercise that right, is also important.

Northermcharn · 03/05/2026 23:10

sleepwouldbenice · 03/05/2026 22:53

I am glad you are allegedly listening
Its was focusing on this one issue that allowed other erosion of women's rights to accelerate. Hope this clarifies...

Eh? Clear as mud.

BrieHugger · 03/05/2026 23:13

I’m voting for the guy who is passionate about our town and gets things done, nice things that make our community a better place.

I would not vote for his party in a general election. No idea what I’d do if one got called tomorrow.

sleepwouldbenice · 03/05/2026 23:29

Northermcharn · 03/05/2026 23:10

Eh? Clear as mud.

Ok
One more time
In the US
Lots of people focused on the transactions rights issues/ what is a woman etc
Voted for Trump
If you can't see how this has eroded women's rights still further then you are very deluded

sleepwouldbenice · 03/05/2026 23:30

Transactions =trans...

Alwaysthesameoldstory · 03/05/2026 23:31

CloudPop · 03/05/2026 22:12

Accidentally voted the wrong way. Yes please - people must vote - think of everyone who died for the right to do so. We really can’t complain about outcomes if we don’t vote.

I totally agree with this.
Voting is a privilege won for us by the struggles of previous generations.

Northermcharn · 03/05/2026 23:35

sleepwouldbenice · 03/05/2026 23:29

Ok
One more time
In the US
Lots of people focused on the transactions rights issues/ what is a woman etc
Voted for Trump
If you can't see how this has eroded women's rights still further then you are very deluded

Oh dear, I see. So you have no evidence or reasoning to support your claim that understanding biological sex led to roe v wade being overturned.

Perhaps what you meant to say is that the outnumbering of Democrats to Republicans on the US Supreme Court, with the Republicans hostile to abortion rights, led to the overturning of Roe v Wade. And that had nothing to do with understanding biological sex. Fixed it for you.

PomplaMouse · 03/05/2026 23:47

Northermcharn · 03/05/2026 22:42

😂Ohh I see. By 'rights for all of us' you by definition mean men's rights? Because in a situation where a party thinks women can have penises, there are no women's rights.

No, I mean rights for people in the UK - but especially women.

Outside of the ECtHR, people in the UK have very few guaranteed human rights (just some thin, unsubstantiated common law ones) - and women were long excluded from them.

Pre-ECtHR, the bulk of our human rights and all of women's rights were just what the government of the day was willing to offer.

You're essentially arguing for scrapping all guaranteed women's rights, and letting Badenoch/Farage/Starmer/whoever decide what rights women will have from time to time.

You either don't care about women's rights or - more likely - don't understand where they come from in a UK context.

Marmalademorning · 04/05/2026 00:04

Northermcharn · 03/05/2026 22:09

The Greens are as bad as Reform so in that sense the LD are a millimetre above them, but all 4 choices (including Labour) are unthinkable options. But actually I don't have any option as no vote in our area this time.

No vote in my area either. If there was then I would be voting Conservative. I nearly voted Labour for the first time ever at the last election. Glad I didn’t now.

Nat6999 · 04/05/2026 00:51

It's easy for me, ds is the Green Party candidate, of course I've voted for him via postal vote. I've not stuffed thousands of leaflets in envelopes for nothing.

Johnogroats · 04/05/2026 01:43

I’ve voted already. By post. Voted libdem and really hope my excellent councillor gets back in. He was incredibly responsive when I contacted him about an issue and got it all sorted. Top man.

EasternStandard · 04/05/2026 07:36

PomplaMouse · 03/05/2026 22:22

When it comes to human rights, and women's rights, people forget (or dont understand) that countries who enshrine those rights in domestic law are able to do so because of their constitutions.

The US, for example, has hard-coded separation of powers between the executive, legislative and judiciary. That means they can have "supreme laws" that can't be overturned by a simple majority vote by the party in government (e.g., they are bound by the Bill of Rights unless they can secure various super majority votes to amend it).

In the UK, Parliament is sovereign - whatever the current government can legislate for (on a simple majority) is supreme law. Unless we fundamentally redesigned the constitutional frameworks of the UK, the only way we can have meaningful human rights protections is via membership in an international organization.

People who would vote for the Tories (since adopting this policy) or Reform are turkeys-for-Christmas sorts.

I can see one of them just posted.

Yes - human rights laws call feel very inconvenient when they protect the rights of someone you'd rather they didn't.

But - in the UK at least - it's basically a binary choice: should we have human rights and accept that sometimes they result in unpalatable situations, or should we get rid of human rights for all of us?

Edited

NZ has meaningful human rights, it tops the human rights tables and uses what is referred to as the Westminster system, ie no formal constitution.

TinyMouseTheatre · 04/05/2026 07:53

No Voting here either. Our next elections are next year.

catobsessed · 04/05/2026 07:58

I’m voting green. I agree with majority of what they stand for and as ZP says you don’t have to agree with everything. They seem the only party who want to actually represent the general public not the rich. They are also the only party who knocked on my door and were willing to have a proper conversation about any concerns for our area (West Harrow) they seemed approachable, interested, friendly and passionate about the area and change and I believe they’d stick to their promises.

BeLimeExpert · 04/05/2026 08:02

GeorgianFavade · 03/05/2026 21:12

Sorry, I’ll pass.

I’ve voted Labour in every election since 1997. I can’t in good conscience put my X in their box currently.

Reform and the Greens are totally nuts.

I’d never vote Conservative.

There’s a 5% chance I’ll change my mind and go and vote Lib Dem.

These are local elections, vote for the party that will do what you think is right in this instance. This is not a vote for government so don’t let that cloud your choices. If it is a housing development or similar, you can’t get it back once a decision is made…

Londonnight · 04/05/2026 08:06

No elections here this year, so I can't vote unfortunately.

PomplaMouse · 04/05/2026 20:30

EasternStandard · 04/05/2026 07:36

NZ has meaningful human rights, it tops the human rights tables and uses what is referred to as the Westminster system, ie no formal constitution.

The NZ Bill of Rights provides for substantive rights, but it is an ordinary statute that can be amended or repealed by a simple majority at any time.

Critically, the NZ courts cannot require a law to be changed. A ‘Declaration of Inconsistency’ only triggers a procedural obligation for Parliament to look at the issue - but they are under no legal requirement to fix the breach.

The UK’s membership in the ECtHR adds what NZ lack - a binding, international, legal obligation. While the UK Parliament does retain sovereignty, failure to amend a law found in violation of the Convention is a breach of international law.

This still doesn't provide a comparable level of safeguards vs systems that have rights conferred by supreme law, and a separation of powers that gives the courts the ability to enforce that law, but it does give meaningfully more HR protections than the NZ system.

Nopenott0day · 04/05/2026 20:40

There's more areas not voting then there is.

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