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Met police are erasing the third victim of the Golders Green stabbing

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tulippetals · 02/05/2026 09:54

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

Metropolitan Police (@metpoliceuk) on X

A man will appear in court today charged following a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation into two men stabbed in #GoldersGreen: https://t.co/BgK04EQmyX

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

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Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 20:47

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 20:17

Here is evidence: Is the scale of anti-Muslim hate crime being grossly understated in politics and the media? | Jewish Voice for Liberation https://www.mwnuk.co.uk//go_files/resources/468846-Anti-Muslim%20hate%20crime%20report.pdf A Definition of Anti-Muslim Hostility - GOV.UK and there is buckets more out there. What does that change? It seem some people here want to say that one section of society experience more hate than another. I am really saying that stats may seem to say that, but we have to be careful with stats to understand the limitations of them.

Sam, in the Jewish Voice for Liberation link, the only mention of Jewish people is: ‘Unfortunately, Jewish, Sikh and Buddhist sample sizes were too small to provide reliable data’, so hate crime against Jewish people was excluded as a comparator.

This undermines your argument that anti-Muslim hatred is more serious than antisemitic hatred, as how can you say that if Jewish sample sizes were too small to be included in the study?

ThreeDeafMice · 02/05/2026 20:48

Sorry where in that report? Narrow it down for me.

This part?

"CST received a description of the ethnic appearance of the offender or offenders in 1,385 of the 3,700 antisemitic incidents recorded in 2025. Of these, 714 (52%) were described as white – North European; 38 (3%) as white- South European; 123 (9%) as black; 160 (11%) as South Asian; six (<1%) as Southeast Asian; and 344 (25%) as Arab or North African."

That doesn't support in the slightest way your contention that "That’s not true, the vast majority of anti-Semitic attacks are carried out by white men."

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:49

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:33

Yeah I thought you had already made a comment to that post earlier, I guess you didn’t get everyone up in arms agreeing with you in your first comment so would try again.

I didn’t realise there was a limit on how many times I can post.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:49

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BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 20:50

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 20:43

Why did they delete Sam’s post from 18:17 then?

I beg your pardon !!!!

What are you
The thread police

I haven’t deleted Sam’s post !!!!
I prefer posts to stand so we can engage with the full thread and so everyones comments are there to see

Please delete this accusation

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:51

ThreeDeafMice · 02/05/2026 20:48

Sorry where in that report? Narrow it down for me.

This part?

"CST received a description of the ethnic appearance of the offender or offenders in 1,385 of the 3,700 antisemitic incidents recorded in 2025. Of these, 714 (52%) were described as white – North European; 38 (3%) as white- South European; 123 (9%) as black; 160 (11%) as South Asian; six (<1%) as Southeast Asian; and 344 (25%) as Arab or North African."

That doesn't support in the slightest way your contention that "That’s not true, the vast majority of anti-Semitic attacks are carried out by white men."

Edited

“CST obtained a description of the ethnic appearance of the offender or offenders in 1,385 of the 3,700 antisemitic incidents reported during 2025. Of these, 714 (52%) were described as white – North European; 38 (3%) as white – South European; 123 (9%) as black; 160 (11%) as South Asian; six (<1%) as Southeast Asian; and 344 (25%) as Arab or North African.”

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 20:51

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:39

That’s not true, the vast majority of anti-Semitic attacks are carried out by white men.

This is true though:

To put it bluntly, Muslims in the U.K. are more likely to be perpetrators of violence against Jews than to be victims of Jews.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:53

BackToLurk · 02/05/2026 19:26

It wasn’t about the victim. It was about the, erroneous, claim that the victim wasn’t mentioned. This in turn allowed lots of people to rock up to tell us that was because it didn’t fit the narrative (I’m not sure we’re any closer to discovering the narrative). Then when it became implausible to suggest the victim wasn’t mentioned, people had to shift to discussing why there wasn’t a problem with antisemitism. Even when the figures are shared, the excuse is the rate is so high because Muslims don’t speak English and Jews know how ‘the system’ works. (I’m editorialising, but not much).

This thread is grim evidence that Jews Don’t Count.

Yes it’s grim isn’t it, and they think we can’t see them.

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:53

ThreeDeafMice · 02/05/2026 20:48

Sorry where in that report? Narrow it down for me.

This part?

"CST received a description of the ethnic appearance of the offender or offenders in 1,385 of the 3,700 antisemitic incidents recorded in 2025. Of these, 714 (52%) were described as white – North European; 38 (3%) as white- South European; 123 (9%) as black; 160 (11%) as South Asian; six (<1%) as Southeast Asian; and 344 (25%) as Arab or North African."

That doesn't support in the slightest way your contention that "That’s not true, the vast majority of anti-Semitic attacks are carried out by white men."

Edited

Eh? Are you actually reading it?

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/05/2026 20:53

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 20:33

Wow.

They’re not wrong. Why are you wow’ing?

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 20:54

Humdingerydoo · 02/05/2026 20:43

You're not going to get an actual answer. The poster is too focused on the fact that not all anti-Muslim abuse is reported. This is despite the fact they've been told multiple times that not all anti-Jewish abuse is reported either. And of course, not all sexist, homophobic or racist abuse is reported either, but all of this is somehow not on this poster's radar. They're too focused on just Muslims, and is going about it in a very weird way too. That whole thing about Muslims not speaking English thing was incredibly weird. If I were Muslim I would have been offended by that comment and considered it one of those unreported islamophobic comments the poster is constantly going on about 🙃

Totally agree with you.

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:54

KatiePricesKnickers · 02/05/2026 20:53

They’re not wrong. Why are you wow’ing?

They are wrong. The CST reports 714 (52%) were described as white – North European; 38 (3%) as white – South European; 123 (9%) as black; 160 (11%) as South Asian; six (<1%) as Southeast Asian; and 344 (25%) as Arab or North African.

ThreeDeafMice · 02/05/2026 20:55

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:51

“CST obtained a description of the ethnic appearance of the offender or offenders in 1,385 of the 3,700 antisemitic incidents reported during 2025. Of these, 714 (52%) were described as white – North European; 38 (3%) as white – South European; 123 (9%) as black; 160 (11%) as South Asian; six (<1%) as Southeast Asian; and 344 (25%) as Arab or North African.”

Edited

55% white men. 45% others. Given that white people are 83% of the population, that means 45% of offenders appear to come from the 17% non-white population.

Arab people make up 0.6% of the population and on these figures are associated with 25% of antisemitic hate crime.

That's astonishingly bad.

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:55

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:53

Yes it’s grim isn’t it, and they think we can’t see them.

And people can see your ‘fake victim card’ post too. Seriously offensive.

TwitterRatti · 02/05/2026 20:56

So, 28 reports of anti Semitic incidents came from right wing ideology compared to 136 reports which were linked to Muslim groups/ Islam, with a further 39 reports of anti Jewish hate referencing radical Islamism. Which point are you making?

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:56

ThreeDeafMice · 02/05/2026 20:55

55% white men. 45% others. Given that white people are 83% of the population, that means 45% of offenders appear to come from the 17% non-white population.

Arab people make up 0.6% of the population and on these figures are associated with 25% of antisemitic hate crime.

That's astonishingly bad.

52%) were described as white – North European; 38 (3%) as white – South European.

So the vast majority are by white men.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:57

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 19:45

What burials?

After people have died or been attacked then we must do something.
Even though it is clear that there is a growing problem with people running round with a knife stabbing people.( I did not mean this incident alone).

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 20:57

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 20:50

I beg your pardon !!!!

What are you
The thread police

I haven’t deleted Sam’s post !!!!
I prefer posts to stand so we can engage with the full thread and so everyones comments are there to see

Please delete this accusation

Edited

Sorry? I asked why MNHQ deleted Sam’s post. Was I not clear?

BackToLurk · 02/05/2026 20:57

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:51

“CST obtained a description of the ethnic appearance of the offender or offenders in 1,385 of the 3,700 antisemitic incidents reported during 2025. Of these, 714 (52%) were described as white – North European; 38 (3%) as white – South European; 123 (9%) as black; 160 (11%) as South Asian; six (<1%) as Southeast Asian; and 344 (25%) as Arab or North African.”

Edited

What percentage of the population are white?

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:57

TwitterRatti · 02/05/2026 20:56

So, 28 reports of anti Semitic incidents came from right wing ideology compared to 136 reports which were linked to Muslim groups/ Islam, with a further 39 reports of anti Jewish hate referencing radical Islamism. Which point are you making?

Stats already posted three times.

The poster in the chain said the majority are by Muslim men, which isn’t the case. The majority are by white men.

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 20:58

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 20:54

Totally agree with you.

It is not racist or offensive to say that poor skills in speaking English is a barrier to reporting. It is a fact. I work with non-English speaking communities.

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 20:58

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:54

They are wrong. The CST reports 714 (52%) were described as white – North European; 38 (3%) as white – South European; 123 (9%) as black; 160 (11%) as South Asian; six (<1%) as Southeast Asian; and 344 (25%) as Arab or North African.

The report says a physical description of offenders was not obtained in all incidents. So they’re not necessarily wrong.

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 21:00

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 20:58

The report says a physical description of offenders was not obtained in all incidents. So they’re not necessarily wrong.

I think they probably aren't.

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 21:01

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 20:58

It is not racist or offensive to say that poor skills in speaking English is a barrier to reporting. It is a fact. I work with non-English speaking communities.

I don’t think I brought this point up with you, Sam. I do think that’s a massive generalisation though.

What I’m asking is why you don’t think more hate crimes are committed per capita against Jewish people, compared to other communities?

Humdingerydoo · 02/05/2026 21:01

Right, so -

"CST obtained a description of the ethnic appearance of the offender or offenders in 1,385 of the 3,700 antisemitic incidents reported during 2025. Of these, 714 (52%) were described as white – North European; 38 (3%) as white – South European; 123 (9%) as black; 160 (11%) as South Asian; six (<1%) as Southeast Asian; and 344 (25%) as Arab or North African. This breakdown is closer to the typical makeup of antisemitic incident offenders reported outside of Israel-related conflicts. Although the percentage of perpetrators described as Arab or North African remains elevated, it is the first time since 2022 that offenders described as ‘White – North European’ make up the majority."

So in 2025, 52% were described as white. You said the majority were white men. Why are you assuming all of the white perpetrators were men? Or did you not actually read the link before you posted it? It's just that you sounded so confident about it being specifically white men, so now I'm wondering if that was just a lie?

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