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Met police are erasing the third victim of the Golders Green stabbing

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tulippetals · 02/05/2026 09:54

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

Metropolitan Police (@metpoliceuk) on X

A man will appear in court today charged following a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation into two men stabbed in #GoldersGreen: https://t.co/BgK04EQmyX

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

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Emilesgran · 02/05/2026 20:29

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 20:17

Here is evidence: Is the scale of anti-Muslim hate crime being grossly understated in politics and the media? | Jewish Voice for Liberation https://www.mwnuk.co.uk//go_files/resources/468846-Anti-Muslim%20hate%20crime%20report.pdf A Definition of Anti-Muslim Hostility - GOV.UK and there is buckets more out there. What does that change? It seem some people here want to say that one section of society experience more hate than another. I am really saying that stats may seem to say that, but we have to be careful with stats to understand the limitations of them.

That’s not evidence that the same thing isn’t happening with antisemitic violence though - and that’s the problem with your claim that Jews are NOT being attacked more than Muslims are. Compared to their tiny population, there is far more violence against Jews than against Muslims.

And moreover, the vast majority of that violence against Jews in the UK is committed by Muslims whereas violence against UK Muslims is not committed by Jews.

To put it bluntly, Muslims in the U.K. are more likely to be perpetrators of violence against Jews than to be victims of Jews.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:33

nomas · 02/05/2026 19:08

And yet again, a thread about a Muslim victim gets hijacked with Islamophobic tropes that he must be a Islamist.

Yeah I thought you had already made a comment to that post earlier, I guess you didn’t get everyone up in arms agreeing with you in your first comment so would try again.

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 20:33

Emilesgran · 02/05/2026 20:29

That’s not evidence that the same thing isn’t happening with antisemitic violence though - and that’s the problem with your claim that Jews are NOT being attacked more than Muslims are. Compared to their tiny population, there is far more violence against Jews than against Muslims.

And moreover, the vast majority of that violence against Jews in the UK is committed by Muslims whereas violence against UK Muslims is not committed by Jews.

To put it bluntly, Muslims in the U.K. are more likely to be perpetrators of violence against Jews than to be victims of Jews.

Wow.

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:34

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:28

Oh here we go.
You ignoring exactly what the thread is about despite it being pointed out to you by many posters on many different comments, and off you trot with your fake victim card.

So me pointing out that the Muslim victim is being called an Islamist on this thread about him is playing a fake victim card? Do you even understand how seriously offensive that is?

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 20:35

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 20:27

Jewish people report more hate crime than other communities. That may not be the same as experiencing more hate crime than other communities. The links I sent discuss this.

Sam, in your 18:17 post (now deleted by MNHQ), you said this:

It does not necessarily mean more hate crimes are committed per capita against Jewish people.

I’ve asked you three times to explain this.

You either have not replied to me or, as in this post here, you’ve said Jewish people report more hate crime than other communities.

Please can you answer my question about why you don’t think more hate crimes are committed per capita against Jewish people, compared to other communities?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:36

Yes nomas we have already seen your interpretation earlier in the thread to try and down play antisemitic attacks.

blacksax · 02/05/2026 20:37

tulippetals · 02/05/2026 09:58

With media reports it’s one thing. But for the actual police to lie and misrepresent what’s happening is disgraceful.

The police sometimes (and necessarily) withhold pertinent information from the media and the public when it is in relation to an ongoing investigation.

How hard is that for you to understand?

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 20:38

oopsBSoD · 02/05/2026 20:24

The same Jewish Voice for Liberation who describe themselves as anti-zionist? Who think Hamas are a resistance movement who were rising up against an oporrssor? Very nuetral and unbiased.

To be fair, no organisation is ever unbiased.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:38

nomas · 02/05/2026 19:10

Yes, it is, the clue is in the title.

No no it isn’t.
Like you have been told many times but there is not much point in me pointing out to you yet again as others have that that is not what the thread is about at all.

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 20:39

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 20:33

Wow.

@Emilesgran is absolutely right, Sam. It’s an upsetting statistic.

ThreeDeafMice · 02/05/2026 20:39

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 20:27

Jewish people report more hate crime than other communities. That may not be the same as experiencing more hate crime than other communities. The links I sent discuss this.

That's the "Jews play-act the victim" trope again.

A Muslim person who experiences a hate-crime gets sympathy. A Jew gets disbelief.

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:39

Emilesgran · 02/05/2026 20:29

That’s not evidence that the same thing isn’t happening with antisemitic violence though - and that’s the problem with your claim that Jews are NOT being attacked more than Muslims are. Compared to their tiny population, there is far more violence against Jews than against Muslims.

And moreover, the vast majority of that violence against Jews in the UK is committed by Muslims whereas violence against UK Muslims is not committed by Jews.

To put it bluntly, Muslims in the U.K. are more likely to be perpetrators of violence against Jews than to be victims of Jews.

That’s not true, the vast majority of anti-Semitic attacks are carried out by white men.

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:40

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:38

No no it isn’t.
Like you have been told many times but there is not much point in me pointing out to you yet again as others have that that is not what the thread is about at all.

So a Muslim victim can’t even have one thread about him?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:41

wrongthinker · 02/05/2026 19:11

And none of the comments bear any relation to nomas' complaint.

Almost like nomas is only here to spread lies and confusion.

I think she is only confusing herself as everyone else can see straight through her judging by others comments.

ThreeDeafMice · 02/05/2026 20:41

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:39

That’s not true, the vast majority of anti-Semitic attacks are carried out by white men.

Evidence for this claim please?

The people who set fire to the ambulances and the attacker in Golders Green this week are all Muslim. So was the Heaton Park guy. And the men who shot up Bondi beach in Australia.

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:42

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:36

Yes nomas we have already seen your interpretation earlier in the thread to try and down play antisemitic attacks.

I don’t think you even read the article.

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 20:43

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 20:12

MNHQ don’t check facts

Or They’d need an army of people working on the CEM threads

( mnhq did mention This once on a thread btw)

Edited

Why did they delete Sam’s post from 18:17 then?

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 20:43

Emilesgran · 02/05/2026 20:29

That’s not evidence that the same thing isn’t happening with antisemitic violence though - and that’s the problem with your claim that Jews are NOT being attacked more than Muslims are. Compared to their tiny population, there is far more violence against Jews than against Muslims.

And moreover, the vast majority of that violence against Jews in the UK is committed by Muslims whereas violence against UK Muslims is not committed by Jews.

To put it bluntly, Muslims in the U.K. are more likely to be perpetrators of violence against Jews than to be victims of Jews.

I get it now. It is not that both communities are being attacked, and should be in solidarity against hate crime. It is one versus the other. I am not backing Jewish people or Muslim people. I am simply pointing out that hate crime in Muslim communities is under-reported. It is frankly strange to say one community being attacked more than another, like some bizarre Top Trumps game, makes them more righteous in feeling vulnerable.

Humdingerydoo · 02/05/2026 20:43

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 20:35

Sam, in your 18:17 post (now deleted by MNHQ), you said this:

It does not necessarily mean more hate crimes are committed per capita against Jewish people.

I’ve asked you three times to explain this.

You either have not replied to me or, as in this post here, you’ve said Jewish people report more hate crime than other communities.

Please can you answer my question about why you don’t think more hate crimes are committed per capita against Jewish people, compared to other communities?

You're not going to get an actual answer. The poster is too focused on the fact that not all anti-Muslim abuse is reported. This is despite the fact they've been told multiple times that not all anti-Jewish abuse is reported either. And of course, not all sexist, homophobic or racist abuse is reported either, but all of this is somehow not on this poster's radar. They're too focused on just Muslims, and is going about it in a very weird way too. That whole thing about Muslims not speaking English thing was incredibly weird. If I were Muslim I would have been offended by that comment and considered it one of those unreported islamophobic comments the poster is constantly going on about 🙃

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:43

nomas · 02/05/2026 19:12

So dismissing the victim as an Islamist doesn’t bear up?

No that is your totally irrelevant take on the situation and doesn’t bear any resemblance to actual facts.

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:45

ThreeDeafMice · 02/05/2026 20:41

Evidence for this claim please?

The people who set fire to the ambulances and the attacker in Golders Green this week are all Muslim. So was the Heaton Park guy. And the men who shot up Bondi beach in Australia.

Edited

https://cst.org.uk/research/cst-publications/antisemitic-incidents-report-2025

50Balesofgrey · 02/05/2026 20:45

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Message deleted by MNHQ. Here's a link to our Talk Guidelines.

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:45

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 20:43

No that is your totally irrelevant take on the situation and doesn’t bear any resemblance to actual facts.

So that poster didn’t call the Muslim victim an Islamist?

Humdingerydoo · 02/05/2026 20:46

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:39

That’s not true, the vast majority of anti-Semitic attacks are carried out by white men.

Any evidence of this? Because that's certainly not my lived experience.

nomas · 02/05/2026 20:47

Humdingerydoo · 02/05/2026 20:46

Any evidence of this? Because that's certainly not my lived experience.

https://cst.org.uk/research/cst-publications/antisemitic-incidents-report-2025

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