Met police are erasing the third victim of the Golders Green stabbing

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https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

No attempt to erase, and not "vile". It's a separate incident in which someone received minor injuries which is not terror related.

So you're ignoring the Guardian report and subsequent repeats here? Overly invested in creating a racism scenario?

There is zero evidence for the things you are saying as well but it appears you will place things as facts when and if it fits your agenda.

People are not obliged to reply - on pain of what, I’d be interested to know? People are free to post or not post, as they wish. This is a discussion forum and people drop in and out according to whatever else is going on in their lives. I find it a bit rich that you seem to focus on individual posters and demand that they talk to you!

No I agree with the not jumping to conclusions without evidence it’s just some of your comments seem a bit downplaying the Jewish connection.

Of course, this is a discussion forum and everyone is free to post and they wish. They can’t post anything false or inflammatory, as I’m sure you’ll appreciate.

That’s why MNHQ exists, to check people are posting things in the spirit of this site.

What Sam has been posting - over several posts - is obviously false and not in the spirit of Mumsnet. I, like many others, have called Sam out for posting this, not least because I’m keen to see where they got this information from, as mis/disinformation is fuelling events such as this one in Golders Green.

I think my stance is entirely reasonable and in keeping with the free posting - as long as it’s polite - which mine has been.

Claiming one thing does not deny another. I have no skin in the game. Re under-reporting, here are two government reports: A Definition of Anti-Muslim Hostility - GOV.UK and HCL0062 - Evidence on Islamophobia. Here is another, from the Jewish Voice for Liberation: Is the scale of anti-Muslim hate crime being grossly understated in politics and the media? | Jewish Voice for Liberation. Here is another source: https://www.mwnuk.co.uk//go_files/resources/468846-Anti-Muslim%20hate%20crime%20report.pdf. I am only saying what I have seen and read.

Yes to this, not sure where mnhq are rn

A Definition of An ti-Muslim Hostility - GOV.UK https://www.mwnuk.co.uk//go_files/resources/468846-Anti-Muslim%20hate%20crime%20report.pdf Is the scale of anti-Muslim hate crime being grossly understated in politics and the media? | Jewish Voice for Liberation HCL0062 - Evidence on Islamophobia

MNHQ don’t check facts

Or They’d need an army of people working on the CEM threads

( mnhq did mention This once on a thread btw)

Your denial of what the police must do in such circumstances is getting you no where.
They must protect the public and themselves based on the available circumstances in whatever way is deemed necessary.

Yes, of course you can challenge posts, I do it a lot! What I don’t do is repeatedly @ individual posters and demand that they engage with me, unlike Tikitaka20.

I don't see why we have to choose between Muslims people and Jewish people. Why set one up against another? My religion is more hated than your religion seems a zero-sum game. (Just to be clear, I have no religion or heritage in either culture.) However, I still maintain that Muslim hate crime is under-reported, and these links seem to back this up. HCL0062 - Evidence on Islamophobia A Definition of Anti-Muslim Hostility - GOV.UK https://www.mwnuk.co.uk//go_files/resources/468846-Anti-Muslim%20hate%20crime%20report.pdf HCL0062 - Evidence on Islamophobia Is the scale of anti-Muslim hate crime being grossly understated in politics and the media? | Jewish Voice for Liberation

Here is evidence: Is the scale of anti-Muslim hate crime being grossly understated in politics and the media? | Jewish Voice for Liberation https://www.mwnuk.co.uk//go_files/resources/468846-Anti-Muslim%20hate%20crime%20report.pdf A Definition of Anti-Muslim Hostility - GOV.UK and there is buckets more out there. What does that change? It seem some people here want to say that one section of society experience more hate than another. I am really saying that stats may seem to say that, but we have to be careful with stats to understand the limitations of them.

I @‘ed Sam twice, politely, because they have consistently posted incorrect and antisemitic things. I don’t think I’ve harassed Sam or done anything wrong, Maud.

I agree with you and I posted similar links.

Oh God you are so right.
Why were you not on police duty that day or were you patrolling another area.
What….you’re not police employed, just someone sitting cosy in a safe area.
How would police cope without the vision and foresight of all these keyboard warriors.

Jewish people do experience more hate per capita than other communities, yes. You disagreed and I’d like to know why.

I agree. It’s getting nowhere
Its like banging my head against a brick wall
but as I’ve read all the Gov / police info on This ( for other reasons ) I do actually know this level of force is not in any guidance and infact
against guidance

but as you quite rightly say
pointless and getting me nowhere
thanks

Not sure if I have sent this to you already or not, but here is some evidence to back up what I have been saying. Is it false? A Definition of Anti-Muslim Hostility - GOV.UK A Definition of Anti-Muslim Hostility - GOV.UK https://www.mwnuk.co.uk//go_files/resources/468846-Anti-Muslim%20hate%20crime%20report.pdf Is the scale of anti-Muslim hate crime being grossly understated in politics and the media? | Jewish Voice for Liberation Might be worth a read?

The same Jewish Voice for Liberation who describe themselves as anti-zionist? Who think Hamas are a resistance movement who were rising up against an oporrssor? Very nuetral and unbiased.

Thank you. I have, in fact, read this as it relates to my job.

As I also said in two earlier posts, I agree with you that antisemitic AND anti-Muslim hatred are under-reported.

Please can you explain now why you disagree that Jewish people experience more hate per capita than other communities?

Jewish people report more hate crime than other communities. That may not be the same as experiencing more hate crime than other communities. The links I sent discuss this.

Oh here we go.
You ignoring exactly what the thread is about despite it being pointed out to you by many posters on many different comments, and off you trot with your fake victim card.

The Jewish voice for liberation?! The anti Zionist movement?! Who declare Israel as an apartheid state? Who'd have guessed you'd choose that particular source for your fact finding mission.