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Met police are erasing the third victim of the Golders Green stabbing

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tulippetals · 02/05/2026 09:54

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

Metropolitan Police (@metpoliceuk) on X

A man will appear in court today charged following a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation into two men stabbed in #GoldersGreen: https://t.co/BgK04EQmyX

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

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Quackcow · 02/05/2026 18:21

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 18:20

Yes, you are right. But reporting and experiencing are not the same thing. Black people experience hate day in, day out. A comment, a vile word - do you think every single one is reported? And why might they not be? There is a huge distrust of the authorities by certain sectors of the community. And there are language barriers too. But that is fine - you do you, and I will do me.

Jews also experience the same thing and do not report it.

PatriciaRocks · 02/05/2026 18:22

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 18:11

I am explaining why Muslim hate crimes are under-reported. How does that minimise anything? I think this is part of the problem. We can't say one thing without someone thinking it means something else.

No. I am responding to your claim about Jewish hate crimes.
I have explained it all, very clearly, in several posts upthread. So I am inclined to think that you really don't understand. Or choose not to.
So it's best left at that.

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 18:23

Whysnothingsimple · 02/05/2026 17:31

So Pressumably the Muslim community is doing everything they can to ensure everyone is fluent in English to make sure all hate crimes are reported? Surely that would be sensible war forward and would give the community the best protection

Gosh, a strange response.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 18:23

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 18:20

Yeah yeah of course you have experience of dealing with violent criminals.
What you think you would do and what is necessary and have been trained to do are two separate things.

They are not trained to
kick someone’s head in
whilst also
being tasered and
on the ground
and with another police officer on top

Show me that manual

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 18:23

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EasternStandard · 02/05/2026 18:23

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 18:21

They will have known that whilst being tasered he cannot move

Thats basic police training

They will have clearly seen that one guy was on top of him already
No idiot is going to jump on another if they think they have a bomb fgs
That’s a really pathetic excuse the police are making
honestly
do they think we are all that gullible.

People are watching and normalising violence. Accepting police brutality is a very slippery slope.

we are not that country

Do not accuse me of making stuff up. You do not know me.

You don’t know this and I’m sure you’d not run towards someone with a knife or a potential device and resolve it. It’s good others will.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 18:24

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 18:23

Gosh, a strange response.

Agree
very odd !

Twiglets1 · 02/05/2026 18:24

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 18:21

They will have known that whilst being tasered he cannot move

Thats basic police training

They will have clearly seen that one guy was on top of him already
No idiot is going to jump on another if they think they have a bomb fgs
That’s a really pathetic excuse the police are making
honestly
do they think we are all that gullible.

People are watching and normalising violence. Accepting police brutality is a very slippery slope.

we are not that country

Do not accuse me of making stuff up. You do not know me.

Well you did make up that the 3 victims were dead.

PatriciaRocks · 02/05/2026 18:25

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 18:23

They are not trained to
kick someone’s head in
whilst also
being tasered and
on the ground
and with another police officer on top

Show me that manual

Sir Mark Rowley clarified it all for Zack Polanski in his letter, which has been published.
He also explained it on several news bulletins.

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 18:25

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 18:15

Bloody hell your mental gymnastics are fabulous.
Worrying but entertaining all the same.

The point I am making is anything is possible. We just don't know. And until we know, we need not to jump to conclusions. Is one scenario more likely than another? It may seem logical to you, but he was not acting logically.

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 18:27

Tikitaka20 · 02/05/2026 18:19

It does not necessarily mean more hate crimes are committed per capita against Jewish people.

Actually, yes, it probably does mean that, because there are far fewer Jewish people than Muslim people in the U.K. (200-300k compared to 3.9 million).

@samthepigeon what are your thoughts on this?

PoppinjayPolly · 02/05/2026 18:27

EasternStandard · 02/05/2026 18:23

You don’t know this and I’m sure you’d not run towards someone with a knife or a potential device and resolve it. It’s good others will.

Exactly, I had no idea until very recently the amount of mnetters and general social media warriors who have such background and training in counter terrorism and general risk management of serious violent situations!
theyve been so prolific on what the police should have done!

AcquadiP · 02/05/2026 18:28

MurkyMo · 02/05/2026 16:58

It was a teeny weeny little knife. Unnecessary overkill by the police. Even if it was a samurai sword they weren't justified in kicking a tasered man in the head

Well according to Sir Mark Rowley, the Commissioner of the Metropolitan Police, the officers were justified in what they did and he commends the unarmed officers and the member of the public (believed to a member of the Jewish security team) for their bravery.

As for your crass remark about a "teeny weeny" knife, that knife put two grown men in hospital, men who were just going about their daily lives and who, no doubt, will be dealing with the trauma of being stabbed for a very, very long time; as will be the case with the first victim, the Muslim man.

In addition, Essa Suleiman has been charged with three counts of attempted murder because short-bladed knives can cause fatal injuries. I'm amazed this needs to be pointed out to you.

Hoardasurass · 02/05/2026 18:28

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 18:21

They will have known that whilst being tasered he cannot move

Thats basic police training

They will have clearly seen that one guy was on top of him already
No idiot is going to jump on another if they think they have a bomb fgs
That’s a really pathetic excuse the police are making
honestly
do they think we are all that gullible.

People are watching and normalising violence. Accepting police brutality is a very slippery slope.

we are not that country

Do not accuse me of making stuff up. You do not know me.

But you are making things up.
There was no police brutality.

ThreeDeafMice · 02/05/2026 18:31

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 18:25

The point I am making is anything is possible. We just don't know. And until we know, we need not to jump to conclusions. Is one scenario more likely than another? It may seem logical to you, but he was not acting logically.

This thread:

A poster: It's terrible that X, Y and Z happened? And everyone ignored P, Q and R.

Everyone else: X, Y and Z didn't happen. P and Q were not ignored (here are the contemporaneous reports) and R happened in another country a couple of years ago, so not very relevant.

A poster: Well, anyway, we shouldn't jump to conclusions.

PatriciaRocks · 02/05/2026 18:31

PoppinjayPolly · 02/05/2026 18:27

Exactly, I had no idea until very recently the amount of mnetters and general social media warriors who have such background and training in counter terrorism and general risk management of serious violent situations!
theyve been so prolific on what the police should have done!

It's quite extraordinary, isn't it? What did the Met Chief say? Most people are unaware of the realities of policing.

NOTANUM · 02/05/2026 18:31

One in 6 young people in Britain do not accept the official view of the Holocaust. The Met chief himself said that yesterday and how worried he was for the safety of Jews.

Our local MP brought up Iran and local Muslim considerations in a post condemning the attacks on Jewish people. Surely that’s a separate post?

I’m in North London tonight and police in vans and cars are highly visible and loud. It feels tense as everyone awaits the next incident.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 18:31

EasternStandard · 02/05/2026 18:23

You don’t know this and I’m sure you’d not run towards someone with a knife or a potential device and resolve it. It’s good others will.

Not all police officers are armed with tasers
i assume you are aware of this

There is a strict training procedure
I know it
Doesn’t everyone

No I wouldn’t run towards someone with a knife, I’m not sure why that’s relevant to anything except I suppose
yes
having the police is great
but not a police that beats people up when they are already incapacitated.
This country doesn’t need that sort.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 18:31

wrongthinker · 02/05/2026 16:46

Oh I'm sure she does mean to do exactly that. There have been a number of terror attacks against Jews in the UK in recent months and to claim that the hate they face is online name calling is pure anti-semitism. Jews don't count, basically, to these people. Jewish kids being spat on, Jewish families terrified, syngagogues being attacked, ambulances set on fire, and Jews stabbed in the street. But you know, that's just Jews overreacting to a bit of name-calling, right Sam?

Yes I’m afraid this is how that poster is coming across.

BackToLurk · 02/05/2026 18:32

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 18:11

I am explaining why Muslim hate crimes are under-reported. How does that minimise anything? I think this is part of the problem. We can't say one thing without someone thinking it means something else.

Not really. You’re suggesting that when people highlight the rate of antisemitic hate crimes, they’re ignoring underreporting by Muslims. You haven’t presented any evidence that Muslims underreport at a higher rate than other groups. You certainly haven’t demonstrated that the rate of underreporting explains the vast difference in the per capita rates between crimes involving Jews and Muslims.

Hoardasurass · 02/05/2026 18:32

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 18:23

They are not trained to
kick someone’s head in
whilst also
being tasered and
on the ground
and with another police officer on top

Show me that manual

Again he did not have his head kicked in. Stop lieing.
Yes he was kicked in the head but that is not what you are describing as someone whos had their head kicked in would be in hospital usually in icu not in crt with nothing more than a few bruises the next day

PatriciaRocks · 02/05/2026 18:33

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 18:31

Not all police officers are armed with tasers
i assume you are aware of this

There is a strict training procedure
I know it
Doesn’t everyone

No I wouldn’t run towards someone with a knife, I’m not sure why that’s relevant to anything except I suppose
yes
having the police is great
but not a police that beats people up when they are already incapacitated.
This country doesn’t need that sort.

"Doesn't everyone" 😂
It may surprise you to hear that I don't, having never completed police violent emergency response training.

NewspaperTaxis · 02/05/2026 18:34

This thread is a bit strange though because, again, the bloke who did this was probably a nutter. But his actions are being used to talk about all kinds of other issues, it's kind of being conflated with everything else, like he was a member of the IRA and therefore part of a campaign answering back to HQ.

It's like this moron has the power to shape the narrative.

loislovesstewie · 02/05/2026 18:35

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 18:31

Not all police officers are armed with tasers
i assume you are aware of this

There is a strict training procedure
I know it
Doesn’t everyone

No I wouldn’t run towards someone with a knife, I’m not sure why that’s relevant to anything except I suppose
yes
having the police is great
but not a police that beats people up when they are already incapacitated.
This country doesn’t need that sort.

He wasn't incapacitated. And, again, the police officers felt that he had an explosive device. Perhaps he should have been shot by an armed officer?

BewaretheIckabog · 02/05/2026 18:35

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