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Met police are erasing the third victim of the Golders Green stabbing

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tulippetals · 02/05/2026 09:54

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

Metropolitan Police (@metpoliceuk) on X

A man will appear in court today charged following a Counter Terrorism Policing investigation into two men stabbed in #GoldersGreen: https://t.co/BgK04EQmyX

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

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TwitterRatti · 02/05/2026 18:03

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 17:20

Muslims have barriers of language and a lack of trust in authorities when it comes to reporting, which are less of an issue for Jewish people. They may report to Tell Mama, and the stats from them are higher, but not all of these reports are then passed on to police. They also see that when they do report, no action is taken. Most hate crimes against Jewish people and Muslim people are verbal or online. A small percentage is physical.

Link please?

loislovesstewie · 02/05/2026 18:04

@BrownTroutBluesAgain ,I'm going to ask again. Given that he was still in possession of a knife, and that the police officers felt, quite reasonably that he might have an explosive device hidden, what should they have done? The police officers might well have been killed, I am sure they were aware of the extreme danger to themselves and others. Please, for the love of God try to understand the situation.

Quackcow · 02/05/2026 18:05

TwitterRatti · 02/05/2026 18:03

Link please?

I looked it up

.Jewish people do not only report through police. Many report through CST, just as Muslims may report through Tell MAMA or other third-party routes. CST recorded 3,528 antisemitic incidents across the UK in 2024 which is higher than the official figures . Tell MAMA recorded 6,313 verified anti-Muslim hate cases in 2024. There are about 13-14 Muslims for every Jew in the UK.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 18:06

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 16:31

Watch the police cam footage please and you will see your comments are not relevant

He was on the ground face down
Shaking within seconds un fact of being first tasered

He had the Police officer shouting at him to release the knife whilst he’s being tasered and another officer on his back whilst the one with the taser is kicking his head

What the hell !!!!

This is some stupid police officer that should not have a right to use a taser
He should know you cannot move your muscles when being tasered

I believe the police are ‘investigating themselves’

So no
This is pure police brutality although perhaps through stupidity rather than deliberate intent to hurt. I don’t know but

whatever the reason
It is never acceptable to act like this and
we should never accept such a police force

Edited

Or the poor soul lying on the ground.
They should have stopped and asked him if he needed a plaster in case he had any nasty cuts to his hand which happened while stabbing innocent people going about their business.

sunshinestar1986 · 02/05/2026 18:08

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 16:54

Are you trying to down play the worldwide antisemitism as well.

Trying answering my question if you are capable
🙄

NewspaperTaxis · 02/05/2026 18:08

tulippetals · 02/05/2026 10:00

He was mentally unwell. It’s actually vile that people are trying to erase the third victim because it doesn’t fit the narrative.

This is an interesting way of putting it. Because 'the narrative' seems to be that this bloke stabbed people just because they were jews. When, a better way of phrasing it surely is that he stabbed them because he was an anti-Semitic moron, and I suppose a bloke. (Speaking as a bloke myself, not anti-Semitic and not necessarily a moron.)

I'm not really sure what can be done to prevent this kind of thing really, despite the reaction of the Jewish community. Though of course, that all said, in this case the warning signs were there, as with the Nottingham attacks, and all the concurrent failures. But usually the lone wolf attack is hard to predict.

When the bomb went off at the Ariadne Grande concert, there was plenty of criticism of the way the arena security failed to spot it, and the way the ambulances responded, but I don't know how you compare the actual deaths of scores of young teenagers and what went on here. Again, both Islamists, both morons, both violent, both blokes, that's the common denominator.

MurkyMo · 02/05/2026 18:09

Whysnothingsimple · 02/05/2026 17:19

Happy you recognise yourself in the description

Yep, that's me!

ThreeDeafMice · 02/05/2026 18:10

I think the ambulance arson (not two minutes walk from one of the stabbings) was a terrorist attack, and this stabbing was not. The ulterior purpose of burning the ambulances was not to deny the use of the ambulances, it was to send a signal, and to make people afraid of further arson or attacks. As terrible as it is, ambulances are vehicles that can be replaced. The terror is the real purpose.

Unless it turns out the perpetrator of the stabbing was programmed or sent by a third party - it's a tough row to hoe to establish he wanted to frighten Jews or anyone else. What he wanted was to kill. He didn't make any efforts to escape and it was pretty clear that this would be a one-off attack. There will be no encore.

If there is an organization that supported, encouraged or planned the stabbings, that would make it terrorism.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 18:10

BackToLurk · 02/05/2026 16:23

It's very simple @nomas The OP claimed that the third' (in fact first) victim 'Isn't being mentioned anywhere', despite the fact that the Met Police press release in the linked tweet mentioned them. As did multiple news reports. So then there had to be a pivot to "ah well they mention it, but they don't really give it the importance of the other attacks". To which the responses were along the lines of "that's probably because the first victim was known to the attacker. It was a personal dispute (depressingly common and rarely reported), whereas the subsequent attacks were racially targetted" (at this point we should remember that the attacker was already known to Prevent).

We then saw the bizarre spectacle of posters who were stating the obvious - assaults on people attackers know are massively more common than random attacks in the street, and reporting reflects this (News values) - being accused of minimising an assault by posters who seemed very keen on minimising the level of antisemitism in the UK. Using a range of tactics from not understanding 'per capita' and suggesting it's "just because the Jews know how to report things" to painting it as all part of 'the narrative' (we're yet to discover what this is) and a surreptitious Jewish oops Zionist plot to stop marches.

But yea 'derailment'

Absolutely bang on assessment of this thread.

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 18:11

PatriciaRocks · 02/05/2026 16:38

I'm sure that you don't mean to minimise the hate crimes against Jewish people, but unfortunately that's how this post reads.

I am explaining why Muslim hate crimes are under-reported. How does that minimise anything? I think this is part of the problem. We can't say one thing without someone thinking it means something else.

Quackcow · 02/05/2026 18:13

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 18:11

I am explaining why Muslim hate crimes are under-reported. How does that minimise anything? I think this is part of the problem. We can't say one thing without someone thinking it means something else.

Jewish people do not only report through police. Many report through CST, just as Muslims may report through Tell MAMA or other third-party routes. CST recorded 3,528 antisemitic incidents across the UK in 2024 which is higher than the official figures . Tell MAMA recorded 6,313 verified anti-Muslim hate cases in 2024. There are about 13-14 Muslims for every Jew in the UK.

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 18:14

Whysnothingsimple · 02/05/2026 16:24

Yet the police who are interviewing the suspect have labelled it a terror attack.

You are quite right. I should have said we don't know if he was driven by a anti-semitic ideology. He committed terrorism, but under a revision of what terrorism is, the perpetrator does not have to have an ideology. Thank you for pointing this out. It is really important to be accurate.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 02/05/2026 18:14

What is so sad is that many that show antisemitic language/behaviour are the same people who gets upset when others talk about "all lives matter" or "it's not only women who gets attacked" when talking about "Black lives matter" or "violence against women"

Indeed, @neveragainforreal; they'll usually insist that posters are derailing and trying to move the focus away from the victims, and yet we have exactly the same kind of thing on here with obsessive and repeated focus on the meaning of "domestic"

It really couldn't be more obvious, and why folk engage with it defeats me

nomas · 02/05/2026 18:14

Twiglets1 · 02/05/2026 17:03

To be fair you should be the one keeping count if you're going to throw allegations around.

Allegation? What?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 18:15

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 16:32

Here is a scenario. He gets on a train, agonises about what he has done, is in a mental health crisis, wonders whether to go home or to go somewhere else, gets off a train at a random stop, and then stabs people. I can see instances where this is as likely as going to a Jewish part of London. I am not saying I am right, but people do seem to be assuming they know what went on.

Bloody hell your mental gymnastics are fabulous.
Worrying but entertaining all the same.

MurkyMo · 02/05/2026 18:15

Quackcow · 02/05/2026 18:01

Yes, all those people on those marches sprouting anti-Semitic hate should have been aware that among the mentally ill, there will be individuals who will take their words literally and enact them.

Zero evidence for this

ThreeDeafMice · 02/05/2026 18:16

I will lay out the "narrative", and the OP can deny it, if they wish.

The narrative that must not be spoken is "that Jews are not the victims here, however much they play the victim card. They are conniving conspiracists, who allow themselves to be stabbed so that their unwitting agents in government will shut down "legitiimate protest" against Jewish actions in the Middle East, a genocide willingly and enthusiastically carried out by the close friends relatives and cousins of the people stabbed in Golders Green. Jews enjoy being victims because it gives them power over everyone else."

Isn't that what you meant?

TwitterRatti · 02/05/2026 18:16

Quackcow · 02/05/2026 18:05

I looked it up

.Jewish people do not only report through police. Many report through CST, just as Muslims may report through Tell MAMA or other third-party routes. CST recorded 3,528 antisemitic incidents across the UK in 2024 which is higher than the official figures . Tell MAMA recorded 6,313 verified anti-Muslim hate cases in 2024. There are about 13-14 Muslims for every Jew in the UK.

Thank you. So the pp is incorrect. I wonder why she would try to suggest otherwise? Puzzling.

Quackcow · 02/05/2026 18:16

MurkyMo · 02/05/2026 18:15

Zero evidence for this

Zero evidence that he was mentally ill or zero evidence that there was anti-Semitic images and tropes were used?

Hoardasurass · 02/05/2026 18:17

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 18:00

Watch the police cam footage

Police brutality is not acceptable
he was not a danger at the time he had his head kicked in
Just watch it

agree @MurkyMo I really do not understand why some people accept police brutality. I know there’s a lot of hateful stuff on the news generally but we should never ever ever normalise what we see.

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I have watched it and as he still had his knife yes he was still a threat.
Also he did not have his head kicked in, yes he was kicked in the head but not to the extent that you are implying and there was no police brutality

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It does not necessarily mean more hate crimes are committed per capita against Jewish people.

Actually, yes, it probably does mean that, because there are far fewer Jewish people than Muslim people in the U.K. (200-300k compared to 3.9 million).

samthepigeon · 02/05/2026 18:20

Quackcow · 02/05/2026 18:13

Jewish people do not only report through police. Many report through CST, just as Muslims may report through Tell MAMA or other third-party routes. CST recorded 3,528 antisemitic incidents across the UK in 2024 which is higher than the official figures . Tell MAMA recorded 6,313 verified anti-Muslim hate cases in 2024. There are about 13-14 Muslims for every Jew in the UK.

Yes, you are right. But reporting and experiencing are not the same thing. Black people experience hate day in, day out. A comment, a vile word - do you think every single one is reported? And why might they not be? There is a huge distrust of the authorities by certain sectors of the community. And there are language barriers too. But that is fine - you do you, and I will do me.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 02/05/2026 18:20

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 16:37

I would act within the law and not kick their head in whilst they are already on the ground being tasered
Any other methods are pure brutality
That’s the police standards in the U.K. and we should never ever accept anything less

Yeah yeah of course you have experience of dealing with violent criminals.
What you think you would do and what is necessary and have been trained to do are two separate things.

BrownTroutBluesAgain · 02/05/2026 18:21

Quackcow · 02/05/2026 18:02

They didn't know that he did not have a bomb wrapped around his body. The head is the main part of the body that can be attacked without fear of detonating a bomb. You are just making stuff up

They will have known that whilst being tasered he cannot move

Thats basic police training

They will have clearly seen that one guy was on top of him already
No idiot is going to jump on another if they think they have a bomb fgs
That’s a really pathetic excuse the police are making
honestly
do they think we are all that gullible.

People are watching and normalising violence. Accepting police brutality is a very slippery slope.

we are not that country

Do not accuse me of making stuff up. You do not know me.

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