Met police are erasing the third victim of the Golders Green stabbing

[tulippetals]

https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

So? Violent men are violent men. It's not that surprising that he would also attack a former friend violently as well. Maybe the other man learned of his plans and tried to stop him from carrying them out? Or maybe it was a fight over money or something else?
I expect the reasons for the earlier stabbing will come out in the trial.

I agree.

Maybe there has been confusion spread about this point. What we do know is that there was a 20 year relationship between the two men. So a differentiating factor from the two Jewish men he attacked, allegedly due to their fact they were Jewish

Interesting that you didn’t link the actual BBC article.
Not ‘BBC news said', but Jonathan Hall KC, the government's adviser on terrorism, and not 'this attack', but 'attacks on Jewish people in the UK' of which there have been several.
They’ve also quoted other people in this article, like the Home Secretary Shabana Mahmood.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy820jz41w8o

@tulippetals "Well that doesn’t fit the narrative does it?"

So what's your narrative then tulip? Is it something along the lines of Jews are not being targeted in racially motivated attacks - nothing to see here. And if they are, they deserve all they fucking get? Maybe you'd like to express this clearly instead of fannying around the edges. But don't forget, it's an extremely dangerous ideology to suggest that terrorism is contextual and I doubt it will serve you as well as you think it might.

How people can look at this and still try to convince others that it's the Jews who are the problem here.

There are people out there literally killing Jews because they hate them, and women on mumsnet are trying to make out that the real problem is that a Muslim also got killed.

Stupidity? Anti-semitism? Probably both.

I have just checked. He has been charged with 3 counts of attempted murder. Your claim that the third attack ( which happened first) has been ignored by the Met is therefore factually inaccurate. I have no difficulty making a distinction between the first incident being a domestic incident and the other two being terrorist. From the CCTV footage it is clear he was seeking out people wearing distinctive jewish clothing. The attack on the older man at the bus stop is particularly despicable. He clearly is not safe to be in society. I dont care if he ends up in Broadmore rather than prison.

Interestingly there was demonic possession in court as defence in US.
I know yours was typo but reminded me of that

Because you are focusing on an irrelevant detail which seems to be deliberate so I will ask again: what are you trying to minimise that you want to focus on an irrelevant detail?

Despite being an atheist myself, I still think it's important to respect people's religious beliefs, not least because religion is so embedded in people's cultures, including the white European one.

No one is saying one person is more important than the other.

The quality of debate from people who try to minimise antisemitism is pretty dismal. I think they're even gaslighting themselves.

They weren't minimizing anything, they were correcting a previous statement, clarifying that recent incidents in the UK didn't meet the specific criteria for a national security emergency as defined by the relevant act.

Who died? Thankfully no one died on this occasion. The charge in each case is Attempted murder. At least one victim has been discharged from hospital.

Jewish people are much more likely to report hate crimes because they have long established processes for doing so and have trust in the police.

And this is a good thing, other communities whether black, Sikh, Muslim, should replicate this. Research suggests that other communities are much less likely to report hate crimes and have less trust in the police.

No only to anti semites

I wasn’t aware he has been sectioned, he was charged and remanded if that’s the case he was not mentally unwell at the time

personal dispute attacks/stabbings happen all the time rarely are they reported unless the person is very young and or they are very seriously injured

being stabbed because of your faith is a different type of attack and will be reported as it’s a very different crime

And how many Jews compared to Muslims are there in this country.

I call bullshit - where is your evidence that Jewish people are much more likely to report hate crime? How do you know if they have trust in the police or not?

Are posters actually trying now to erase the racist element of this terror attack because the attacker committed a personal attack before travelling to Golders Green to deliberately commit a racially motivated terror attack?

To deny his motivations against the two Jewish victims is a fucking disgrace.
And also racist gas-lighting.

What exactly are you saying?
The figures for hate crimes against Jews are only this high.... because they report them?

Beautifully put.

What research? Are you, then, saying that Jews don't experience more crimes than other groups, despite the extremely clear evidence that they do? And the numerous terror attacks against Jews that have happened in the last few months alone?

Where's your evidence that contradicts these established facts? You can't just go around spreading anti-semitic lies, you know.

https://archive.jpr.org.uk/object-3641

https://theconversation.com/religious-hate-crimes-in-england-and-wales-are-at-a-record-high-but-many-still-go-unreported-241071

I missed this post earlier.

Great post. One thing we can do is not vote Green.