Met police are erasing the third victim of the Golders Green stabbing

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https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

The anti-semites have always been there but just hid in the shadows before.

Nowadays they seem more confident because they can hide under the guise of 'well-meaning leftie' with their little placards but we see them.

This thread is crawling with them.

No.
This author claims that they have found out that some Islamic hate crime goes unreported.
Not that "Jews are more likely to report hate crime".

No, I’m saying the CST has done an excellent job of building trust for reporting hate crimes and other communities should replicate this, to address the issue of chronic under reporting.

Neither of those reports back up your claim, the second one is written by someone who states that they investigated Islamaphobia (Pressumably because it appears he is Muslim so where his area of interest lies?)

The comments on Instagram on any news article about the stabbing are pretty terrifying. Pure hatred. Some of the reform-type voters are pretty horrendous commenting on Instagram stories but the level of absolute hatred towards Jewish people (not Israelis) is really scary and seems to be on another level.

From the first link:

We show that Muslims and Jews perceive discrimination at similar levels, but that the latter report discrimination and initiate court proceedings much more frequently than Muslims. We find that these differences can be explained by a divergence between the two groups in terms of perceived costs, in-group norms, structural factors, and organisational opportunities. In comparison to Jews, Muslims typically (1) are less confident that reporting discrimination will have a positive outcome; (2) are more concerned about being seen as ‘victims’; (3) are less well-informed about the possibilities available to them to report discrimination; and (4) come from communities that have lower organisational capacities in this regard.

Jewish communities have had to form their own security teams on places of workshop and schools, school ffs, have buzzers on their businesses, have spoken out time and time again about not feeling safe and not having the protection they need

I think it’s very clear, to those who want to understand the truth, that they do net feel safe as they are at risk of being attacked

its utterly shameful that peoples
fears because what is happening in their own communities to people they know is being dismissed especially after the last few months

Where is your evidence that Muslims report less verifiable hate crime?

The first report seems to be based on research in Switzerland

Thank you. It's concerning, and I'm slightly shocked (but also not) about the length people are willing to go to, to show their racism (antisemitism is racism for those who are wondering) under the disguise of being a caring person. Racism is vile.

You neglected to say, in Switzerland!!!

This man is clearly violent and probably mentally unwell. It's not surprising that he turned to violence towards someone he knew. He also travelled specifically to an area with a high Jewish population looking specifically for Jewish people to attack.

Your instant minimising of this attack, and assumption there's some kind of Jewish agenda here (remembering that the Jewish community were in no way responsible for these attacks) is a very clear demonstration of the deeply ingrained anti-Semitism within certain areas of our society.

Of the 326 cases where an incident was not reported
to the police, 69% of respondents identify as Muslims.
Of those who did not report it, 41% are women and
58% men. Regarding age, the responses indicate that
younger respondents are the least likely to report abuse
to the police

https://eprints.ncl.ac.uk/file_store/production/275641/983D9A24-4271-4F75-B52B-25B164DDC243.pdf

If it wasn't such a grave, thoroughly depressing topic, this posters response would be laughable. I would imagine the exact opposite, given the amount of attacks on their communities, that Jews infact have lost all confidence in the police given their inability to protect them from attack. Better reporting lines? Obviously, 'tell mama', the million pound government funded hate crime against Muslims reporting line, has been forgotten...

Poor effort.

All this article says is that many hate crime incidents go unreported.

It tells us nothing about whether Jewish people are "much more likely to report hate crime" or not. Or whether Jewish people have trust in the police.

Your article does back up though that while both Muslims and Jewish people are suffering an increase in hate crimes, one group is more affected than the other. From your article:

Hate crimes against Jewish people more than doubled from the previous year, making up 33% of religion-based hate crime in the new figures. Those against Muslims rose by 13%, making up 38% of the total.

Stop it. Seriously.
Not one person on here has sought to minimise any attacks or prejudice against the Muslim community. Not one.
Jews are living in fear because of the very well documented rise in antisemitism which is terrifying and alarming.

Oh stop it. If that's really all you're saying, it's a derail. But clearly you are also trying to imply that there isn't actually a big problem with racist violence and terror against Jews that we can clearly see with our own eyes and ears.

Do you really think that every Jewish child who is spat on or punched at school ends up as a hate crime statistic? Or every time stupid racists go about with their placards calling for the extermination of Jews it's reported as a hate crime? The fact that there are as many reports as there are suggests that there are also many more that haven't been reported. The idea that Jewish people are not being targeted by known Jew-haters but are just really really good at reporting crimes is so obviously ridiculous I don't know what to say to you.

To me the scary thing are people who claim to be anti-racists and good. "Bog standard racists" show their cards openly and don't hide that they are racists and can therefore be avoided. The people who claim to be good but showcase pure racism under the disguise of being caring, are the most scary people in my opinion. And they are big in numbers!

Some posters seem determined to excuse, deny and minimise the extent of antisemitism in the UK. This is in spite of well publicised evidence, including terror plots which have fortunately been foiled.

This is a circular argument. Attacks against some people of some groups are labelled as racially motivated more than attacks against people of other groups. So if a Islamic terrorists attacks white people, this doesn’t get labelled as racist, even if all the victims are white. As demonstrated on this thread, if they attack a Jewish person, it is labelled as racist. Even when, as in this case, a person of another ethnicity was also attacked, which is the premise of the thread.

No only in your twisted mind.

Yeah what can you do? They won't change.

You are absolutely bang on.

Switzerland the place where minarets & burkas were banned, and politically and institutionally v Islamophobic, in case anyone needed that clarified…,