Met police are erasing the third victim of the Golders Green stabbing

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https://x.com/metpoliceuk/status/2050114417405132857?s=46

I am actually horrified. A third, Muslim, man was stabbed in the attack but he isn’t being mentioned anywhere. How is this allowed?!

People in a MH crisis often get fixated on and paranoid or trigggered by "oddly specific" groups of people though.

With my DB it's been men wearing hats and people of South Asian origin, but I've come across some odd ones in the course of my work and one client would get paranoid about "fat women".

I tried it and literally the first 3 articles had the name of the third victim on. Couldn't be arsed to check more.

He might well be. But they still have to get the knife from him regardless of how he’s feeling. He remains a threat to them while the knife is still in his possession and he isn’t fully secured. But again there’s a dedicated thread that discusses it in further detail.

He didn't go on a stabbing spree. He stabbed his friend of 20+ years in a domestic dispute and then travelled specifically to a Jewish area some miles away without attacking anyone else and then targeted 2 visibly Jewish men. That is not the actions of a mentally ill person on a stabbing spree its the actions of a racist terrorist.
Why are you so intent on downplaying an antisemitic terror attack

I heard about a separate incident with the suspect, is that what you mean or an actual third victim at the site of the other two?

@Lavenderflower Are you familiar with the old saying that starts something along the lines of 'Better to remain silent and be thought a fool...' ? Perhaps Google it.

And for the ultimate confusion some Iranian funded group tried to claim it.

Thank you @Ncisdouble !
so much untruth on this thread

Don't be so ridiculous

They all matter. They were stabbed for different reasons

From what I've seen on social media the reaction from the government and the media to this stabbing is only causing division. Lots of communities feel like they aren't being served and are wondering why all of a sudden the government can find 25million to throw at this when their communities have been crying out for help for years and from their perspective have been ignored.

Oh well, if some random numpty on twitter says it’s true, it must be.
Spoiler - it’s not.
Again, a split second of googling could have got you the accurate figures, direct from the government. And it’s not those figures you’ve posted.
They do show, however, more attacks on Muslims than Jews but I think people have explained per capita to you now and (your words) at a higher scale. So I won’t bother repeating it.
However, the figures (the actual ones, not the twitter made up ones) for attacks on Jews for 2025 come with a rather important proviso from the government that they
do not include data from the Metropolitan Police Service
which, considering Greater London has approximately 50% of all UK Jewish households, is pretty bloody significant. MPS recorded a 113% increase in hate crimes against Jews in 2024 so excluding those makes the official recorded figures likely to be wildly underestimated.

Actually the third victim was attacked on the same day. We don’t yet know what the motives were for any of the stabbings. The attacks on the two Jewish victims have been declared terrorism extremely quickly, while the attack on the third victim, who appears to be Muslim, has been left out of some reports and downplayed in others.
The perpetrator had been released from a psychiatric hospital just a few days earlier. He was severely mentally ill, suffering from psychosis, with a history of random violence. He had stabbed several other people in the past, who were not Jewish, as well as a dog, (religion not specified). It's entirely possible that the stabbing of two of the recent victims was due to them being Jewish, but it is also entirely possible that it was not, or that the man was so unwell that he wasn't capable of acting with any clear motive. Also a crime being potentially racially or religiously aggravated does not necessarily make it terrorism.
The way the government and the press have been handling this is quite odd. The police chief has suggested the need for a special police force specifically for Jewish people. There have been many other dramatic statements that do not seem to be supported by the evidence so far.
Whatever it turns out to be, I think that, however strongly people feel about fighting antisemitism, it is not a good idea to jump to conclusions or to treat attacks against one particular group as more serious than attacks against others. Apart from anything else, it inevitably risks increasing prejudice and resentment toward the group one is trying to protect. This country should take attacks against Jewish people just as seriously, no less and no more, than attacks against people of any other demographic. It's also a shame that the failings of mental health services seem to have been overlooked, and the fact that Nigel Farage, of all people, is accusing Keir Starmer of not caring enough about Jewish people is farcical!

Little to no coverage? While linking to a piece on the BBC Last October, that Keir Starmer put out a statement on?

With my friend it's English people, she is Irish and gets fixated on a United Ireland and paranoid that English people are out to get her. I always know that things are starting to go downhill with her when she starts talking about those politics even casually.

The police haven't lied, that's something you've made up. Nothing has been misrepresented, downplayed or covered up.

The fact that this scumbag was mentally ill and just released into the community shows the failings of our so called psychiatric services. I read the reports on the day and knew there was a domestic stabbing before the targeted ones. It wasn't covered up.

So he might be even more unpredictable then, even more important to get the knife off him! Honestly the lengths people are going to to make a terrorism suspect a victim are extraordinary.

But he’s not being entirely erased. Why are you insisting on spreading misinformation?

What experience and training do you have in dealing with such incidents to support this view?

I have had such training and experience, and I strongly disagree with your rationale.

To note, I have also been judged similarly to this many times, by people who have absolutely no comprehension, training, or experience in dealing with such matters, and unfortunately, until you experience it, you will never comprehend it. No amount of explanation will ever do.

It's so disheartening for those who deal with risk unfolding like this. You aim to stop that risk and protect others, only to be judged by people who have no idea at all, the same people you are trying to protect and serve.

Yea, a lot of people seem to know about this ‘entirely erased’ victim.

Mumsnet as an organisation seems to be rather slow in recognising that the tide is turning against blatant antisemitism in the UK and we're all getting very sick of it. What they tolerate people to say and posts allowed to stand will not necessarily age well.

Definitely agree, these situations are often very dynamic with risk changing all the time, and the extent of that risk is also unknown at times. Many people would not be able to deal with situations like this; it's hard for those trained and experienced in it, as each situation like this is unique.

Nice attempt to minimise, they weren’t in the same house.

The murderer went to Ishmael Hussein’s flat and attacked him.

Why are you trying to imply they lived together?

I take yout point but various news outlets including the BBC and the Guardian are reporting that Essa Suleiman had been referred to Prevent in the past.