Labour are totally toast in Thursday’s elections

[Nicewoman]

I can’t wait for Thursday. Labour are finished. Not a single moment too soon. Happy Dayz

It’s quite complicated to topple a Labour leader. Not like the Tories

Are there any particular posts that bother you?

if you think someone is a bot or is posting in bad faith then you should report it to MNHQ.

Sweeping accusations are not appropriate.

It’s Starmer putting out statements re ZP anyway.

Although that could backfire and help Greens.

Yes most of what Starmer does has the direct opposite effect of what he intends.

Is it?

I am in Kent and all our Reform led council has done is put council tax up and nothing whatsoever to improve services.

Council tax has gone up everywhere. We are (since last election ) LibDem and ours has risen 6.5% this year. Also no sign of anything improving.

The Greens split the left wing vote so Reform are probably quite pleased that they are doing so well. It would be rather surprising if Greens were gaining any voters from Reform. That would be quite a political leap.

Yes but Reform campaigned with a promise they would not raise council tax...

Lolz
You can tell it's coming up to elections.
I'll be voting Labour, soz not soz

I don’t know I feel that a lot of reform voters are just disillusioned and looking for a place to lay blame for the state of the country and cost of living crisis. Reform tell them that it’s the boat people etc. If they can be open to the real causes of their struggles they would probably then see sense in what the Green Party propose.

I’d be delighted to see Reform’s guff be disproved and the party crashing at later elections. But every leaflet I’ve ever seen from every party has always made unlikely promises and sometimes bare-faced lies. The LibDems have the most misleading leaflets with their infamously dodgy bar charts. And I see that the Greens are going the same way.

My objection to Reform is that it’s a party for voters who are randomly, doltishly angry about the world, not a serious political movement.

I’m voting Labour!

This

The weirdest thing about some of the electorate is that even shenanigans like this by Reform: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/merseyside-reform-uk-chair-leaves-33859744.amp won't put some people off voting for them. They're a party with a large % of people who shouldn't be anywhere near public office. Ditto the Greens.

I don’t think it matters what Reform do, a lot of people want to believe the utopia they are selling.

I just googled how much ours has gone up. Also Lib Dem council. Has gone up 21.3% in the past five years!

They both appeal to people who like simple populist solutions which don't add up, but there is a big divide between them. Someone on here called them two cheeks of the same arse and that is a pretty accurate description.

There is a recent MN on council tax rises, it makes for shocking reading and ought to be something the govt is addressing.

Reform are actually being funded to dismantle the uk. These individuals funding them stand to benefit from that arrangement. Why would anyone vote for this party?

What do people expect with an ageing population that has been ignored by successive governments? Taxes can only go one way!

Politics Joe is for children isn't it?

It markets to Gen Z I think

They’re all bad, but some are worse than others. I hate the idea of not voting as a woman but can’t subscribe to reform or greens, I dislike the racist, anti immigration side of reform, equally I don’t like the greens approach to single sex spaces.

@ProudAmberTurtlewhy do people long for exciting? To manage the business of the country I want dull and competent. We’ve had the prick abseiling down zip lines in Union Jack knickers. Is that what you want?

When did I say want exciting?

I want our leader to be inspirational and competent - not sure why anyone would want someone who is dull. We had that with the likes of Major, Sunak and Starmer - none were good leaders.

But silly stunts does not make someone exciting - look at Ed Davey.

How does dull and incompetent grab you? If you’re a fan of that you must be over the moon at the moment.

@DenizenOfAisleOfShamei don’t jump on every Daily Mail headline thankfully. I actually think Labour are doing ok after 14 years of Tory incompetence. Dull and competent is fine by me.