Labour are totally toast in Thursday’s elections

[Nicewoman]

I can’t wait for Thursday. Labour are finished. Not a single moment too soon. Happy Dayz

I've been thinking about it a lot.
I'm very lucky to live in an area where Reform aren't even present. For me it's a choice between Tory and Labour and of course it's not Labour I'm voting for.

But, if there was any sniff of Reform getting in, I'd force myself to go for Labour. And if in 2029 Tory will be ready to do coalition with Reform, it's Labour for me as well.
Whilst in reality I absolutely hate Labour and want them go and never return.

Still, whatever it takes to keep Reform (and Green) out

you do understand it’s local council elections not a general election?

You do understand that prime ministers can be ousted from office without a general election, don't you?

Whether you understand it or not, catastrophic results for the Labour Party in local elections and the Welsh Senedd will be blamed on a deeply unpopular Prime Minister who is stumbling along making one mistake after another, then lying to parliament and bullying his MPs to vote against an inquiry into his conduct in order to save his worthless backside.

The Peter Mandelson scandal alone would have been the end for most prime ministers, but arrogant, power-hungry, bully-boy Starmer, is determined to destroy the careers of anyone who might prevent him clinging onto power.

Hopefully, Labour losing the Welsh Senedd for the first time in its history as well as losing shitloads of Labour councillors will force his party to get rid of him.

If you have any evidence of this competence, can you pass it on to the Labour MPs who are spending this weekend plotting away?

I agree about dull Labour.

Can you please share any examples of competence in internal affairs?

I take that Starmer is doing well in international politics.

The trouble is it’s dull and incompetent.

what's the geographical specifics of "Outer London" ?

Can’t wait to see the back of them .

Labour are dull, I’ll give you that, except maybe for that Labour MP whose political vision is to boost sales of vibrators.

But they’re completely incompetent. You don’t need the Daily Mail to tell you that.

Who do you want to replace him?

It's local council let's see how many Reform councillors stand down ,I think it's 70so far and one council has had four Reform leaders in 11 months.
I hope they get a few councils because they'll fuck it up and that may well change the course of a GE.

Quotes like this make me wonder if everyone realises it's not a General Election, it's local councils.
Labour will still be in Government for another few years whatever happens.

I don’t even think they’re dull. Not with the scandals going on.

True. I thought Rayner’s sacking was quite good theatre. And of course you have to fit Gray, Haigh, McSweeney, Wormald and Robbins around that. (Have I missed any?)

My favourite bit of Labour hi-jinks, though, was the Labour MP who stood down after being convicted of beating up a constituent. If a good beating can’t pull in a voter, what can?

So, you’re right. Labour is not in fact dull, but hilariously, horrifyingly colourful. And hopelessly incompetent.

I agree. Starmer has gone back on most of the pledges he made in order to be elected as Leader of the Labour Party. He's moved massively to the right and it won't work. Why would people vote for an anti-immigrant Labour Party when they can have the real thing with Reform?

Obviously Reform-led councils will be a total disaster as they are totally incompetent and, if Farage's conduct as an MP is any guide, utterly lazy and uninterested in turning up for work. But they hate the same people that lots of posters on here hate so that's good enough for them.

That's a good question. Ideally, Kemi Badenoch but, unfortunately we have to suffer three more years of the Labour shit-show before that could even be a possibility.

Labour haven't got much to offer in the leadership department, but Shabana Mahmoud or Wes Streeting might not be too bad.

Angela Raynor and Ed Miliband would be disastrous, but there is (hopefully) not too much damage they could do in three years and the damage they do might be enough to ensure the Labour Party never wins another general election in my lifetime.

I don’t know what people are basing the label of ‘incompetence’ on? Is it NHS waiting lists? Is it employment rights? Is it global policy? All these posts on here and no one is actually stating what this incompetence actually consists of? Probably when you reflect on the aspects you have attributed to this government you will find they are Tory policies.

I’m in Lewisham. It looks like Labour will lose Lewisham for the first time since the 1970’s I’d bloody love to see them lose it, but it would mean me proactively voting Green. I’m not sure I can bring myself to do that.

Kemi Badenoch would be horrendous. Are you actually being serious. 😆

How are the incompetent?

U-turns and vetting failures.

Start there.

The tax rises, including breaking manifesto pledges by raising taxes significantly (e.g., employer National Insurance, capital gains, inheritance tax changes affecting farms), which have stifled growth

The attempt to reform welfare that resulted in a massive increase in welfare spending

The winter fuel payment fiasco

The failures on immigration

The donors, the cronyism, the ministerial resignations, adviser resignations

The Peter Mandelson saga

The mess of housebuilding, handling of Southport, Net Zero etc

The Chagos Islands debacle.

It's actually impressive just how much Labour have messed up in less than two years.

There's a poll today showing Kemi is now far and away the most popular party leader - it's just her party that's not particularly popular

I think Reform doing well in the locals would be a terrific outcome. It will give people a couple of years of experiencing the reality of just how incompetent they are, and leave the general election to actual serious political parties. Not private limited companies with the party leader financially benefitting from donations as major shareholder from the sham PSC they created.

I’d also put all the hypocrisy into the incompetence side of the scale.

You could easily argue that it’s much worse than that, as being evidence of dishonesty. But being a forgiving sort I’ll take it as incompetence.

Two simple examples. Labour in opposition attacked the Tories for supposedly considering cutting WFA (they never did). Cutting WFA was one of the first things Labour announced (before Starmer got frightened by the backbenchers and did a screeching u-turn).

And Labour lambasted the Tories about wasteful and costly plane use. Just check out Labour’s track record!

(There were a couple of bits of Labour shenanigans that should have got a look-in in my previous post…Tulip Siddiq and Rushanara Ali, formerly anti-corruption and homelessness ministers respectively. Absolutely hilarious stuff.)

She is hugely unpopular, incompetent and simply not very nice going by her policies and some quite ignorant comments.

She also thinks Boris was a great prime minister and partygate went too far!

You said you hope she replaces Starmer - why?