PIP for Anxiety

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AIBU to clear things up?

The current nasty rhetoric around disabled people at the moment is astounding. Society needs to be reminded that we are ALL one illness or accident away from disability.

Everyone knows someone who is gaming the system, yet the PIP fraud rate is extremely low. The public demonising, does not match the reality.

The hot topic is “anxiety” and how people with “anxiety” are gaming the system, getting “free” cars and robbing tax payers; this is being constantly fed through media, news articles and so on.

This is simply not true. The people spouting this nonsense clearly have no idea how PIP works. Nobody gets PIP without strong medical evidence. Nobody.

Before anyone posts “my neighbour got PIP just by telling lies”. No, they did not. That’s not how it works.

People need to be educated properly on how benefits work, how they are awarded and what the criteria for mobility cars actually is; the cars are not in fact free.

People need to be educated on the fact that there is anxiety, which every human suffers from at some point, and then there are anxiety DISORDERS which are entirely different and can be life changing and debilitating. Hence, the need and entitlement for PIP.

Brenda down the road who feels too anxious to go to Bingo on a Friday night is NOT getting PIP ❌

Mary up the lane who has such severe OCD that she cannot leave her own home for fear that she will die, IS getting PIP .✅

There’s a huge difference.

The current turning on disabled people is shameful and we are living in a country full of hate because Bob (and his Uncle) are annoyed that they are paying tax to “support all of these scroungers”.

Bob (and his Uncle), needs to hope that they never get cancer, or suffer life changing trauma or have an unfortunate accident to avoid being served a huge scrounged humble pie.

I do not suffer from anxiety but as a human, I am pleased we have a system in society to support the most vulnerable people who need it. Life can happen to anyone.

But their mobility part of pip goes directly to pay for said car instead of cashing their bank account. Why would they give up that money for a car they don’t use?

When someone stops driving prior to a PIP application, due to anxiety or hypermobility or fatigue - it's not a coincidence. It is because you are much more likely to be awarded PIP if you say you do not or cannot drive anymore due to your condition.

For all the doubters - just sit in a council estate pub for a few hours and you'll be amazed at what you learn.

I feel you may be projecting your experience of bpd onto a very well man who has ridden the coattails of a singular traumatic incident that happened 21 years ago and completely missed the parts I stated where he clearly does not meet the criteria for support in daily living or mobility by PIPs criteria.

He doesn't have BPD. He is a money greedy narcissist who knows how to play the game.

He could also be disabled, but not everybody with a disability qualifies for PIP when they're honest about their symptoms.

Because it will be driven by a family member and all insurance, tax, services and tyres are paid for. It's not always the case but generally mobility cars make sense financially.

I am in full support for those in need getting the help they need, but I’m also a SENCO, and have seen a massive increase in parents asking me to fill in forms for DLA. Ironically, the families whose children would genuinely qualify are often more reluctant to claim. I’m in a primary and most months I get a request. Often for children with a diagnosis but no EHCP and little extra support in school, and parents happy with this. It is often families with other family members who have PIP. There is one family where I appear to apply every 2 years for each of the children. I never find out if the claim is successful or not (unless the parent tells me) so I’m never sure if they are just trying again or going for a higher amount. It has really made me lose faith in the system - it seems that some people are just geared to try and squeeze what they can, whilst others that need support, but aren’t aware and left to make do. There is no doubt in my mind that there are some families, not many but enough, that are manipulating the system to their financial favour.

She does not have a formal diagnosis as I said before. You are either missing the point or being deliberately obtuse.

Or again, maybe they were declared medically unfit to drive after having to surrender their licence...?

Yes probably due to their stroke and fractures.

’Everyone knows someone who is gaming the system’

No I don’t actually. And do you realise what a hypocrite you are saying that?

They are hefty drugs and you’d need a specialised assessment alongside shared care regardless.

I wasn't aware you knew what drugs she is on. I give up!

Yet so many people on this thread are telling you otherwise. It absolutely can work like that. It's often the people who most need the help who don't get it, or get less than they should simply because they don't have the energy to fight it. The scroungers research how to fill the form in and make damn sure they tick all the boxes. Often in the case of mental health claims they get a support worker to do the form for them to make sure key phrases are included. It makes me mad when I hear of people who really need the benefit being denied or not claiming at all when others are gaming the system

It simply does work like that sometimes

You said they were for bipolar

And do you think maybe the welfare outgoings exceeding taxation incomings might be making people worry?

We are sinking.

I'd say it's rife.

In that case it sounds like they were awarded for 2 years each time

You cannot say that people don’t lie to receive PIP.

I know of three separate people who all lie and claim they have anxiety/ADHD in order to claim PIP and also carers allowance for their partners! These three people all freely admit to friends and family members that they are purely scamming the system and have the attitude of “if it’s this easy for me to get then why shouldn’t I?”.

If your son has a Motobility car you might want to check this out

petition.parliament.uk/petitions/752400?fbclid=Iwc3NjcARX8c9leHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZAo2NjI4NTY4Mzc5AAEem7z_Q16WCZwZHcfp7NKoVMXdUoAC8PWvgEGBCfjpupOP8mJ_qDnFDQHbtWo_aem_52Mq00KlMhnzjw-nY6S85w

If no one ever investigated and recorded car theft, does that mean there is no car theft?
There is very limited data on PIP fraud because it is not being investigated or recorded.
It is happening, we all know it’s happening. But, all manner of people commit fraud, it’s certainly not limited to benefit claimants.
I am a net contributor by a very wide margin, I pay my taxes and I’ve no control over how that is spent, so I don’t really have any skin in this argument, I have to pay regardless of whether claimants are genuine or not.
What I don’t understand? People who do genuinely claim and need it are getting less than they need, because other people are claiming it fraudulently. And yet they are the ones who claim there is no fraud?

It's rife. Whole families on it.

Medication for bipolar disorder is considered to be very strong and powerful, acting as crucial tools to manage brain chemistry, reduce mood swings, and treat acute mania or depression. They require strict adherence to medical guidance and often involve long-term use and regular health monitoring.

Can we all just agree to ignore Kfti48dj 🙄

Well only 4% of government spending goes on disability benefits which i assume covers pip, dla and possibly the disability element of uc im not sure about that one

How can you claim and prove your child needs a huge amount of care which you’re providing but you also need the same amount of support? Being a carer is hard work.

Don't be so nasty people are allowed not to agree its called having a discussion

Enjoy. As we won’t have a welfare system in 10 years. Income tax is below the welfare bill this year for the first time ever,