Don't like Farage but..

[TheBlueKoala]

I do agree with him that foreign nationals shouldn't be able to claim benefits and to scrap PIP for mild mental health issues. And that the money saved should go into mental health care so that everyone with mild mental health problems can access NHS care rapidly.

The solution here was always to invest in mental health services so that you could catch these young people early, intervene and help them. But of course health service cuts under the previous government put paid to that.

What I always wonder about is why people going on about the benefit bill never mention getting rid of the triple lock? It's always the young who get bashed (and before anyone says anything, I'm old).

Triple look needs to go but Farage and all the rest of them know they would lose votes if they campaign to get rid of the triple lock. The grey vote is still a powerful voting block, and younger people don’t really understand what the triple lock is or care about it.

Look at what happened when Labour tried to cut the winter fuel allowance. Removing the triple lock would be electoral suicide.

I also think it's because everyone else has already been squeezed! The Cameron Tory/LibDem coalition brought in the student fees - those first people are not so young now and have many other responsibilities. They also brought forward the later age for women to retire - quite suddenly. They also sold off Royal Mail for a price that benefitted their cronies but not the British public.

Like Canada, Australia and the USA. Those well known pariah states. Each treaty and international body has both advantages and disadvantages if we remain subject to them. Not everyone always agrees that the advantages outweigh the disadvantages and depends on both how it affects you, your family and your business and to a certain extent how much you believe individual countries sovereignty matters. Not totally up to date on Reforms position but I believe they would take us out of the ECHR as would the Conservative Party. Only pointing out that once in power the government does have the power to take any actions it sees fit if it believes it would be advantageous, I am not commenting on every aspect of international law although I’m in favour of reforming ECHR or leaving.

NOBODY can claim PIP for “mild issues”. I do hope this clarifies things for you. And as to benefits as a whole, immigrants in the UK are net contributors to the UK economy thanks to them paying their taxes, unlike Nigel’s cronies. So why shouldn’t they use the benefits their taxes are paying towards when they need to do so?

They are not in Europe

All the major democracies in Europe signed up to the ECHR.

What is it that you don't like about it?

The concept of not allowing foreign nationals to claim benefits no matter how long they have worked and contributed is completely against the British value of fairness. Why should I not get benefits when a British person who has never worked does? I've been here almost 29 years. This policy is blatant xenophobia, and the people who think it is acceptable - well, fill in the blanks.

EXACTLY

Oh c'mon. Ofcourse they can. They won't say that it's mild though. But there are several videos and sites explaining how to fill in the form step by step in order to receive full PIP. I know people who have done this unfortunately.

So not in Europe still mature democracies with plenty of protections for their millions of citizens. 🙄 Pretty sure you know what I and millions of others don’t like about the ECHR including the leaders of two parties with significant support.

There will be no NHS under Reform. They have stated this.

No they havent. They have confirmed on numerous occasions that it will remain free at point of use. They might do their best to make it a bit more efficient and give better health outcomes for the absurd sums of money which it receives.

How will it be "Free at the point of use" when we will all be expected to pay "insurance" to get healthcare?

• Average day-to-day health spending in the UK between 2010 and 2019 was £3,005 per person – 18% below the EU14 average of £3,655.
• If UK spending per person had matched the EU14 average, then the UK would have spent an average of £227bn a year on health between 2010 and 2019 – £40bn higher than actual average annual spending during this period (£187bn).
• Matching spending per head to France or Germany would have led to an additional £40bn and £73bn (21% to 39% increase respectively) of total health spending each year in the UK.

This is why the NHS under performs.

I can assure you you will be forced to take out health insurance

I don’t know what you don’t like about the ECHR. I really am being genuine, can you explain?

EU governments largely spend more per capita on health than the UK does.

Theres a perception by some that changing models will automatically lower taxes. It wont.

Then there is the set up costs which will be required to change model & systems - again won’t come for free.

Im very interested in how the EU manage healthcare but im under no illusions that it will be cheaper in anyway.

Christ, the same people that voted for the UK to be poorer, want another crack at taking us out of stuff. What will they blame next?

https://benefitanswers.co.uk/how-to-claim-pip-successfully

You don't get PIP just by filling out the form. My DS needed 4 hours to scan and upload all his medical evidence. And he had an interview with an assessor too - fortunately one who understood incurable degenerative conditions.

Am I right in thinking that you like the rights for yourself but not for a certain group of people, eg asylum seekers and immigrants?

Or do you not like the GFA?

No you are not being genuine and you know it. If you really want to know why there is a movement to leave the ECHR there is a treasure trove of information, articles and essays on line and from statements from Conservative and Reform politicians and media personalities and respected political commentators and pundits.

No you are not right in your thinking.

I think they have now changed the wording to 'Free at the point of need'

Then can you explain why you want to leave the ECHR?