Don't like Farage but..

[TheBlueKoala]

I do agree with him that foreign nationals shouldn't be able to claim benefits and to scrap PIP for mild mental health issues. And that the money saved should go into mental health care so that everyone with mild mental health problems can access NHS care rapidly.

Yes I agree with him on these points too. It feels bad because I don’t like him in general and have no intention of voting for his party but I do agree on this.

Spending PIP on trainers and cannabis 😂 don’t forget the daily delivery of pizzas despite obesity🙄

Neither is encouraging people to make they don't get better so that they don't stop receiving PIP.

Taking people off Pip doesn't mean that people need to take more responsibility for their health. I have ptsd. Anxiety. Depression. I went through therapy while I was on disability benefits. Im on medication

How do you propose people recover from certain conditions - I have ptsd
I am much better than I was six years ago - (I've been on disability benefits 18 months for context) but it has been a long period of even partial recovery. Do you think removing disability benefits mean that certain conditions will either go away or be more manageable?

And that's before other factors come into play. I don't have particularly supportive GPs. I waited 8 months on a waiting list to see a psychologist - some people wait years

I wouldn't wish having Ptsd on anyone. I would still have the condition whether I was on disability benefits or not

Taking benefits off some people would result in them becoming more unwell. Some people find it hard enough to go through the Pip process as it is

How do people take more responsibility for their health if they have a three year wait to see a psychologist or a psychiatrist for example ? Go private? Not an option for people on benefits

I've done everything to try and improve my mental health. Anti depressants. Anti anxiety medication. Over a year of therapy with a psychologist. And as I said previously my awards for disability benefits were 18 months and two years respectively. One definitely won't be renewed and I'm fine with that - I knew it from the outset

Pip also isn't easy to get - neither is lcwra

You agree that immigrants should not get benefits and that people with mild mental health issues shouldn't get Pip? Where's the evidence that people who get Pip for mental health have mild mental health issues?

Do you understand what it means to be psychcotic or manic?
You cant encourage people to get better .

I had a relative with mental health issues. Serious ones. He was never formally diagnosed but he showed all the signs of schizophrenia, he was never a risk to other people and some people even if they are a risk don't get proper support and treatment. He was never on disability benefits. He's dead. He took his own life. Some mental health conditions will be lifelong even if someone is medicated

You can't recover from every mental health condition. Some can only be managed

No one is getting PIP for anything that could be described as mild.

My brother was diagnosed with moderate depression and told he should continue to work in the interest of his mental health . A few days later he died by suicide using means freely available to him at work . Define mild if this was moderate .

@SpryTaupeTurtle sorry to hear this . I only spotted your post a few moments after I posted mine. X

Of course you can with medication and the help of psychiatrists or why do we have psychiatrists?

Should we just get rid of them?

If it isn't easy to get how come so many people are exposed in the newspapers when they go on multiple holidays after pretending that they can't go out etc?

And these are just the ones who are caught.

If it is so difficult, how did they get PIP?

What percentage is that out of the total number of people who get disability benefits

I've been through the experience of trying to get disability benefits and was turned down three times. Have you been through a disability benefits assessment?

Some people wait years to get psychiatric help. Some people are never properly medicated either.

You too.

People need to understand that Farage/Reform are NOT the only party that want to address immigration issues. Things do need to change, but Reform are not the way to do it. Look at how they stand on everything else. They have zero constructive policies regarding the economy. The want to abolish the NHS and they want to enable high earners to keep finances offshore. Reform is NOT good for the UK.

Reform also want to introduce fracking - to the benefit of their American friends.

Reform’s anti WFH agenda and the stupid comments from a candidate about taxing childfree women are just two of the reasons I wouldn’t vote for them.

I think you could say that about any of them

If you take the number of cases highlighted in the media, then take the number of people receiving PIP, divide the first number by the second number and then multiply the result by 100, you will get a percentage. Which will be very, very, very small.

This aside from the fact that always gets forgotten, which is that PIP is not an out of work benefit.

Other than selling tickets that's exactly what Farage's heroes did. OP are you honestly saying you are happy to pay NI for however many years and get no pension at the end?

"Are there no work houses?"

Not all political parties have the same policies as Reform