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AIBU?

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To want SD’s room to be multifunctional?

576 replies

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 12:08

DP and I have decided to downsize as unfortunately he has medical issues which mean he can’t work full-time anymore. We have DS4 together, and SD13 who visits, at most, every other weekend. I work from home and am the breadwinner (relevant) and I currently work from the dining room.

The new house we have found is much smaller, still has three bedrooms, but no dining room. DS would have the box room. I’ve said I will need to have my desk in SD’s room. DP and SD don’t want this. AIBU?

OP posts:
TheSassyPinkJoker · Yesterday 14:59

So your the breadwinner your providing for the household and contributing to the ex and DP and SD dictate who gets what room. What do you get out of it? Think they are being very unreasonable. And I would tell the ex to get off her arse and provide for her child

LBFseBrom · Yesterday 14:59

Yes, set your office up in your bedroom or, if your kitchen is fair sized, in there.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Yesterday 15:00

DeedsNotDiddums · Yesterday 14:06

She's trying to say that it isn't SD's bed. It's OP and DP's bed that SD is kindly being allowed to.sleep in.
I think that's a dangerous approach.

I think suggesting that kids have nothing is very dangerous!

BarbiesDreamHome · Yesterday 15:00

DotAndCarryOne2 · Yesterday 14:57

You ARE coming across as trying to make him out to be a deadbeat because of ill health. OP was perfectly clear. He had to reduce his hours because of ill health. Because his hours were reduced anyway he took on more childcare to help out. He didn’t reduce his hours specifically to do child care - it’s because of his health.

Agree to disagree. Won't comment further as the point is to offer a view to try and be helpful to OP not to squabble all afternoon. I've made my point, others disagree, that's fine, we're all welcome to a view.

DotAndCarryOne2 · Yesterday 15:01

LBFseBrom · Yesterday 14:59

Yes, set your office up in your bedroom or, if your kitchen is fair sized, in there.

Why ? Why should OP be the one to compromise on everything ? She is the breadwinner, she is the one who is making up the shortfall in CMS - without which they could stay in their present home, so she’s entitled to decide the best arrangement to WFH when they downsize.

DotAndCarryOne2 · Yesterday 15:04

BarbiesDreamHome · Yesterday 15:00

Agree to disagree. Won't comment further as the point is to offer a view to try and be helpful to OP not to squabble all afternoon. I've made my point, others disagree, that's fine, we're all welcome to a view.

We are all entitled to a view yes, but when the view you’ve expressed is based on information you’ve misunderstood then other posters will call you out, and l’m not the only one who has pointed out your mistake.

ticketwoes · Yesterday 15:05

Can we have a wave of people expressing how unfair this all is for DS now, having this upheaval in his life so that DSD can have the same standard of living at her mums house?
or is it just the step children we have to show concern for?

WutheringTights · Yesterday 15:05

SlimShadyPines · Yesterday 14:44

OP, when I went to university I moved away and rarely came home outside of university holidays. I asked to swap my room from upstairs to downstairs in order for it to be multifunctional. There was no point in a room sitting empty most of the time when it was somewhere the rest of the family could use when I wasn’t there. I think my parents went into my room and we put a sofa bed in the downstairs room (their old room) so it was used as my bedroom when I was home and an extra living room when I was away. We also had the computer in there so anyone working on it could do so away from the busyness of the rest of the house. We had 6 of us (including parents) in a 4 bed house.

If this was your biological child you probably wouldn’t have a problem telling her the room had to be used as your office too. When you have lots of people in a house that doesn’t have enough rooms for everyone to have their own individual space then rooms need to be multifunctional, especially when someone isn’t there full time.

This. I have three children in a four bedroom house. All are mine and DH’s. We also have family to stay around once a month. One of the rooms is massive (but can’t be split) and the others are all small doubles. The child that has the biggest room has to move out for guests. That was the deal, everyone is ok with it. In a normal family home it’s not always possible for everyone to have exclusive use of their own dedicated space, there has to be some give and take.

Purplepelican6 · Yesterday 15:05

So the £600 is coming out of your pocket op
As he only needs to pay the mum £100.
Would universal credit not top the mum up .
If £100 is what the calculator says he has to pay ,then that's what he pays .
What happens when she's 18 ..will you continue to pay the extra £600...
What if mum is relying on it for years to come ..what you split up with your DP ..the mum wouldn't get her extra £600 then ,and she would have to manage.
Why on earth would you let that effect the life of your own son ,so he has a smaller house and smaller bedroom,so the mum can stay in the same situation.
And that's assuming he is actually paying the mum £100 ...or op ,or you paying the full £700 yourself???
Your basically supporting 2 families single handedly.
How long can you keep that up for ..

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Yesterday 15:05

I’m the first to say that NRPs shouldn’t prioritise cutting maintenance above all else.

But keeping paying £700 at the cost of losing your joint home is madness.

£100 is very low but there must be a happy medium? What could he pay and you guys keep your home, which works for everyone? Could different cuts be made in lifestyle to make this balance?

Otherwise you (the OP) are trading in your security to support another woman which is bonkers.

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:06

TheSassyPinkJoker · Yesterday 14:59

So your the breadwinner your providing for the household and contributing to the ex and DP and SD dictate who gets what room. What do you get out of it? Think they are being very unreasonable. And I would tell the ex to get off her arse and provide for her child

His ex has two younger children and was unexpectedly left by their dad a couple of years ago. Both the younger children have additional needs. She does work but minimally and I don’t think there’s a lot she can do to improve things right now.

But this does mean I am now supporting everyone. And my job is important and needs to be prioritised.

OP posts:
EmpressOfTheThread · Yesterday 15:07

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:06

His ex has two younger children and was unexpectedly left by their dad a couple of years ago. Both the younger children have additional needs. She does work but minimally and I don’t think there’s a lot she can do to improve things right now.

But this does mean I am now supporting everyone. And my job is important and needs to be prioritised.

So...the Dad of the younger children is surely responsible, not you?
Why are you supporting these children?

Purplepelican6 · Yesterday 15:08

What issue does dp have that he can't work
Did he move in to your house ....then became ill and couldn't work ???

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:08

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Yesterday 15:05

I’m the first to say that NRPs shouldn’t prioritise cutting maintenance above all else.

But keeping paying £700 at the cost of losing your joint home is madness.

£100 is very low but there must be a happy medium? What could he pay and you guys keep your home, which works for everyone? Could different cuts be made in lifestyle to make this balance?

Otherwise you (the OP) are trading in your security to support another woman which is bonkers.

We’re not losing our home, we’re downsizing so we have more spare cash to maintain our lifestyle. So DS and SD aren’t further impacted.

I hope DP’s recovery goes well and we may be able to move again in time. But we need to reduce outgoings and have time to breathe right now.

OP posts:
Purplepelican6 · Yesterday 15:08

He's done a number on you ,op ,to make you think this is your responsibility

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:09

Purplepelican6 · Yesterday 15:08

What issue does dp have that he can't work
Did he move in to your house ....then became ill and couldn't work ???

He’s got cancer.

OP posts:
DotAndCarryOne2 · Yesterday 15:09

ticketwoes · Yesterday 15:05

Can we have a wave of people expressing how unfair this all is for DS now, having this upheaval in his life so that DSD can have the same standard of living at her mums house?
or is it just the step children we have to show concern for?

This is mumsnet, of course stepchildren come first. That’s evident by the number of posters who think it’s fine to leave DSD’s room standing unused for most of the month, while OP works from her DS’s room, rendering it unusable for him while she’s doing so. It’s batshit.

Purplepelican6 · Yesterday 15:09

So did he move in to your house that you owned

WutheringTights · Yesterday 15:09

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:06

His ex has two younger children and was unexpectedly left by their dad a couple of years ago. Both the younger children have additional needs. She does work but minimally and I don’t think there’s a lot she can do to improve things right now.

But this does mean I am now supporting everyone. And my job is important and needs to be prioritised.

So you are now supporting two adults who work minimally and four children, three of whom aren’t yours to the disadvantage of your actually child? And you’re not even married? I think you’re either a saint or completely mad. I’m afraid I wouldn’t be doing what you’re doing.

EmpressOfTheThread · Yesterday 15:10

You need to start protecting yourself and your son.

DotAndCarryOne2 · Yesterday 15:11

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · Yesterday 15:05

I’m the first to say that NRPs shouldn’t prioritise cutting maintenance above all else.

But keeping paying £700 at the cost of losing your joint home is madness.

£100 is very low but there must be a happy medium? What could he pay and you guys keep your home, which works for everyone? Could different cuts be made in lifestyle to make this balance?

Otherwise you (the OP) are trading in your security to support another woman which is bonkers.

This.

Purplepelican6 · Yesterday 15:13

SamphireSupper · Yesterday 15:09

He’s got cancer.

That's really sad ,I'm sorry to hear that .
But I feel you are making the wrong decision here .
His cancer will massively impact your son ,and then your son has to move to a smaller home as well as a smaller bedroom.
No ..
He needs to pay the mum the £100 ,as the calculator says
And you op ,need to focus on your child
You are not responsible for his ex wife's horde of children..Sen or not
They are not your responsibility, they have two parents who are perfectly capable of working things out together.

Speakofthedevil · Yesterday 15:14

They're taking you for an absolute ride, and you're being way too soft, OP. Your and your son's lives are in upheaval because of some unrelated child and a demanding partner who cannot work properly (yes, I know he's ill).

You're pretty much single-handedly supporting his ex, that's ridiculous. She's not your problem at all. Why are you doing this? Spend the money on your son and yourself. You're downsizing your house because of them; that's madness. In the new house, your own son, who's there full-time, gets a box room, and an SD, who's there two weekends a month, gets a bigger one. And still this madam and her dad are unhappy, because you want to put a single DESK there, which she can also use. Meanwhile, you're paying for everything.

This is crazy, they're taking the piss massively. I'd do this: stop paying maintenance, he can pay the 100, not my problem, not my business. Then I either wouldn't downsize, or if I would, I'd take the box room for my office, a larger room for my son, and SD can sleep on a sofa twice per month. If she and/or her dad don't like it, they'd be welcome to leave.

EmpressOfTheThread · Yesterday 15:14

I think you're going to need to take some professional advice about your finances, OP.

Purplepelican6 · Yesterday 15:17

Op...your dp
Does NOT have you and your sons best Interests at heart
I'm sorry but he doesn't
He should not be allowing you to pay that £700
That is his responsibility..
He is putting himself and his dd before you and your son .
Please tell us your not married to him ,and he's not on the deeds of your house