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I can’t afford the lesson

188 replies

Thoseflatbreadslookyummy · Yesterday 11:52

Do I cancel or pay double next week

Bit embarrassing, Dd has a music lesson this week, the teacher asks for cash after each lesson. I’m self employed and waiting on a late payment through no fault of my own. It’s a bit of a risk for the weekend if I pay the lesson and my money doesn’t come in by then.
Would you cancel the lesson citing illness etc (we missed just one before due to genuine illness) or go and apologise and say I didn’t have time to get money out etc and pay double next week, that feels embarrassing and disrespectful though 😔

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LavenderSweetPea · Yesterday 12:51

As with most posters, just talk to her (message her asap if you have her number) just tell her what you've told us and offer either to cancel or to pay double next week, whichever she'd rather.

If the teacher is also struggling with cash flow and thinks she can fill the slot with another pupil then great, she'll be pleased you have her the opportunity. She night genuinely not mind, if she's been teaching your daughter a while and you've been a good with payment in the past.

catipuss · Yesterday 12:53

Thoseflatbreadslookyummy · Yesterday 12:10

It’s for food

Don't you have a credit card? When you say tight will you have no money for food or not enough for the whole week? If you are really that close to the breadline I'm not sure music lessons are a priority.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Yesterday 12:56

LavenderSweetPea · Yesterday 12:51

As with most posters, just talk to her (message her asap if you have her number) just tell her what you've told us and offer either to cancel or to pay double next week, whichever she'd rather.

If the teacher is also struggling with cash flow and thinks she can fill the slot with another pupil then great, she'll be pleased you have her the opportunity. She night genuinely not mind, if she's been teaching your daughter a while and you've been a good with payment in the past.

Just be prepared for her to be in the same position though.

LordofMisrule1 · Yesterday 12:57

What's their cancellation policy? As you might have to pay either way now if it's outside of their cancellation time. If I don't cancel ours within 24hr for one teacher, 48hr for another, we pay anyway. So you'd prob best check that out before you end up cancelling and paying.

PrincessofWells · Yesterday 12:58

Just ask for bank details after the lesson.

Limehawkmoth · Yesterday 13:00

XelaM · Yesterday 11:59

This is me exactly with my daughter's tutors but honestly, the time that I did explain it they were super nice and understanding and agreed for double payment next time. Text her to explain. She will understand

Don’t text though imo, call voice to voice. Much more able to get over embarrassment and apologetic tone. Texts can be misread as cf !

nomas · Yesterday 13:00

How can someone who is self-employed and so impacted by late payments not have contingency measures in place like an overdraft or credit card?

If you can't afford music lessons it's not fair to put the instructor in a position where she isn't being paid on time or where you cancel last minute.

PullTheBricksDown · Yesterday 13:00

WilderHawthorn · Yesterday 11:54

Why not explain to the teacher and offer to pay for it the following week but also offer to cancel?

Presumably they are also self employed so might empathise? I'd explain honestly and ask them what was best from their point of view.

ifonly4 · Yesterday 13:01

As many others have said, just be honest and let her make the decision.

Also, unless you can trust DD to lie for you, what's she going to say when the teacher says, 'hope you're feeling better now'.

CrispySquid · Yesterday 13:01

OP, gently, if you are this close to the breadline where you don’t have £20 or £30 at hand when you need it and you would have to undergo hardship or lack of food to afford it, the music lessons are the least of your priorities. In the future there will be more frequent and urgent things you are going to need that £30 more for than a music lesson.

If learning an instrument is important to you, do what hundreds of thousands of teenagers do around the world and get a cheap guitar and get your daughter to teach herself in her bedroom from YouTube or instructional videos. It’s such a commonly self-taught instrument. Alternatively put the lessons on hold until your financial situation improves. You should not be spending on extra curricular if you have a margin as tight as this.

FeelingALittleWoozyHere · Yesterday 13:01

CalmTheFuckDownMargaret · Yesterday 12:31

Message her and say ‘I’m terribly sorry but I have a situation which means I won’t be able to pay for DDs lesson on the day as I usually do. Would you prefer for me to cancel it or would you be willing to wait for me to pay you double the week after? I appreciate this isn’t ideal. Many thanks.’

I would do this. But seriously I dont think you can sustain these lessons if your cash flow is this tight

Gonnagetgoingreturnsagain · Yesterday 13:02

CrispySquid · Yesterday 13:01

OP, gently, if you are this close to the breadline where you don’t have £20 or £30 at hand when you need it and you would have to undergo hardship or lack of food to afford it, the music lessons are the least of your priorities. In the future there will be more frequent and urgent things you are going to need that £30 more for than a music lesson.

If learning an instrument is important to you, do what hundreds of thousands of teenagers do around the world and get a cheap guitar and get your daughter to teach herself in her bedroom from YouTube or instructional videos. It’s such a commonly self-taught instrument. Alternatively put the lessons on hold until your financial situation improves. You should not be spending on extra curricular if you have a margin as tight as this.

This.

LiviaDrusillaAugusta · Yesterday 13:03

CrispySquid · Yesterday 13:01

OP, gently, if you are this close to the breadline where you don’t have £20 or £30 at hand when you need it and you would have to undergo hardship or lack of food to afford it, the music lessons are the least of your priorities. In the future there will be more frequent and urgent things you are going to need that £30 more for than a music lesson.

If learning an instrument is important to you, do what hundreds of thousands of teenagers do around the world and get a cheap guitar and get your daughter to teach herself in her bedroom from YouTube or instructional videos. It’s such a commonly self-taught instrument. Alternatively put the lessons on hold until your financial situation improves. You should not be spending on extra curricular if you have a margin as tight as this.

Exactly this - you risk putting the teacher in the same position you are in. If things are so tight that one late payment can be that serious, better to knock unnecessary costs like this on the head

SummerInSun · Yesterday 13:04

Absolutely agree with others. She is self employed too and people don’t pay or pay late - would she prefer you cancel as you can’t pay, or you pay double next week

youalright · Yesterday 13:06

You have somehow got yourself in a situation where your cupboards, fridge and freezer are completely empty. You don't have £20 to pay for a music lesson. You need to have a real hard think about whether being self employed is actually working for you and if the business is successful enough to make a living

Phonicshaskilledmeoff · Yesterday 13:07

Thoseflatbreadslookyummy · Yesterday 11:56

I feel a bit too embarrassed to explain the situation tbh

Honestly- tough shit. I don’t think someone else being out of pocket….. and then potentially struggling themselves is worth less than your embarrassment.

You need to get over yourself and have an honest conversation and let them decide whether to cancel or pay double. Anything else is dishonest. You don’t need to go into the ins and outs of your financial situation, but just not turning up is really wrong.

usedtobeaylis · Yesterday 13:07

Get over your embarrassment and explain. You don't need to go I to any massive detail, only that you're self-employed and your payment is late. Ask what the options are.

NerrSnerr · Yesterday 13:08

Is her dad around? Would he be able to support with the music lessons or at least help short term?

Calliopespa · Yesterday 13:09

Thoseflatbreadslookyummy · Yesterday 11:56

I feel a bit too embarrassed to explain the situation tbh

I actually think it puts her in an awkward situation as well: it is hard to insist on payment if someone has said they can't.

I would cancel and reference illness. Children get ill. It keeps things from getting embarrassing.

usedtobeaylis · Yesterday 13:09

It sounds like a one-off so I don't know why people are trying to give you life lessons.

YorksMa · Yesterday 13:11

If she's self-employed I'm sure she'll understand only too well.

youalright · Yesterday 13:13

usedtobeaylis · Yesterday 13:09

It sounds like a one-off so I don't know why people are trying to give you life lessons.

Because if it was a one off she would have food in her cupboards/freezer and even a small amount of savings to be able to access £20 if she needed it, this is obviously a bigger issue.

usedtobeaylis · Yesterday 13:16

youalright · Yesterday 13:13

Because if it was a one off she would have food in her cupboards/freezer and even a small amount of savings to be able to access £20 if she needed it, this is obviously a bigger issue.

There's no indication that she's ever been in the position of having to choose between food or a music lesson and being unable to afford either before. It's quite literally unsolicited advice.

Cosyblankets · Yesterday 13:20

I'm a tutor.

I would prefer you to be honest with me and give me some notice.
She may prefer you to just skip a week and put someone else in that slot. My evening slots are always full. I've got someone away this week in one slot and because I knew I was able to fit in a student who wanted an extra lesson for the exams
I've had a long standing client who said things like is it OK if I pay you Friday when I get paid. It was never a problem

youalright · Yesterday 13:20

usedtobeaylis · Yesterday 13:16

There's no indication that she's ever been in the position of having to choose between food or a music lesson and being unable to afford either before. It's quite literally unsolicited advice.

Edited

But you would have a buffer unless you really are struggling. We always have enough food in to last atleast month if needed it might be some odd combinations but we wouldn't starve and I can't even imagine not even having £20. My kids don't go to lessons or clubs because its a lot of money we haven't got but they always have food and if the heating broke we have money to fix it. If you are living this hand to mouth you need to seriously rethink what you are doing.