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What’s the worst thing you’ve ever done?

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shehardlysleeps · 20/04/2026 17:18

I’m in a reflective mood, and it’s got me thinking about something I did a few years ago which is probably the thing I’m most deeply ashamed of.

There was a coworker who really rubbed me up the wrong way. I was very unhappy at the time, and going through an awful time personally. She would make snide comments about me, do things with my family members (who were colleagues too) which really got my back up, I felt like she judged me harshly and was pretty rude. Along with another colleague they made three or four very nasty comments which still stick with me.

Instead of raising a grievance, which I should have done, I took to posting about her on another website (along the lines of Mumsnet), not realising she used it too. She saw the posts and reported me, and I ended up facing a meeting with HR and a senior partner of the firm I was working in. It damaged my reputation within the firm forever and I ended up leaving after not being offered a promotion. I still feel ashamed of it now, nearly half a decade on, and feel like it’s tarred me forever.

Whats the worst thing you’ve ever done?

OP posts:
x2boys · Today 08:01

Tredadt · Today 07:52

I did nothing wrong from a legal perspective, that's what I meant. I put this on the thread because I do realise I manipulated the situation in my daughter's favour which obviously wasn't right. . Like I said the team are a really nice group of people but they already have jobs and children and families and my daughter my never have that.

Everybody will have things going on in their own lives,you know nothing about
At least own it your daughter had a massive advantsge over other potential candidates becsuse of you ,
Shes wont be the only who is shy and struggles to communicate ,but shes the only one who had a huge leg up.

Dragonscaledaisy · Today 08:07

@Tredadt Your update has made me feel even more sad for your daughter.

piscofrisco · Today 08:24

I loudly took the piss out of a stranger in a restaurant once. I was very drunk and a being a very big Knobhead. I was ashamed of myself instantly and still am 22 years later.

Hernameisdeborah · Today 08:39

Tredadt · Today 07:39

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Wow, I'm shocked at the utter vitriol and wishes and hopes my daughter fails. To clarify a few things. Firstly this is absolutely true and like someone pointed out, nepotism isn't illegal. Someone even mentioned that it's common in the NHS too. I did nothing wrong. Yes, I trained my daughter up and withheld training from other staff. However, my daughter is very bright. She got a first at university. With a little help from me, she picked it all up really quickly and is doing really well in the role. She isn't lazy or a failure.

When she came here after uni as a temp, I didn't create a master plan about this. I didn't even know about the job until a few months after she started. She was really struggling to find a job. As mentioned previously, she's shy and lacks confidence. She struggled to fit in at secondary school and although uni was a lot better, it had it's own issues. She really struggles with her communication skills. The team are lovely and really friendly and always try to include her. In any other places, id worry she'd get picked on. Here, they are nice and she's under my watchful eye so I know she'll be okay. I suspect she might be on the spectrum. She works hard and this job was perfect for her- doing isolated work on her own working with spreadsheets and data without having to communicate much with people.

If you are parents, I'm sure you'd understand. I'm just worried about her and wanted her settled. It so happened that the overall team manager went in long term sick and subsequently retired, so an opportunity arose where I could train my daughter on senior level work. It's almost like all the stars just aligned. I just wanted her settled in a job. She already struggles in so many areas in her life and I didn't want her struggling in work too.

As for writing the JD, yes it went through all the HR processes but in the absence of the team manager, the HoD asked me to draw something up as he obviously doesn't have a clue about the tasks. I wrote it up and he added a couple of things and signed it off to HR as though he had written it. I wasn't involved in the recruitment/ shortlisting or interview.

I hope this sheds some light on things, it's not always so cut and dry when people do terrible things.

Also to add, it wasn't from me to refuse the rest of the team to see the JD. This was a decision made by the HoD.

Edited

I absolutely do not hope your daughter fails and I think those who have been critical of her have been very harsh. I’m sure she is bright and clever and motivated .I was, and am, a very shy and quiet person myself and know how it feels to be bullied and have incorrect assumptions made about me because of it. I also know what it feels like to miss out on opportunities because of it.

It was the tone of your post that jarred, like you found the frustration of the team, who wanted the training and to see the JD but couldn’t, amusing. “Poor things, lol.” In a thread about people feeling guilt and sadness about their mistakes, this didn’t land well. I’ve also experienced missing out on opportunities because of things like nepotism and jobs going to candidates who have already been chosen before the official recruitment process has started and the wasted time and effort is so frustrating and upsetting. I think that’s what most people are reacting to - you seemed to find the unfairness funny. Maybe that’s not true though. And also, as a shy and quiet person, confidence is surely gained by getting training and jobs off your own back rather than relying on someone pulling the strings to get you the job?

But I reiterate, I honestly do wish your daughter well.

ainsleysanob · Today 08:40

Tredadt · Today 07:39

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Wow, I'm shocked at the utter vitriol and wishes and hopes my daughter fails. To clarify a few things. Firstly this is absolutely true and like someone pointed out, nepotism isn't illegal. Someone even mentioned that it's common in the NHS too. I did nothing wrong. Yes, I trained my daughter up and withheld training from other staff. However, my daughter is very bright. She got a first at university. With a little help from me, she picked it all up really quickly and is doing really well in the role. She isn't lazy or a failure.

When she came here after uni as a temp, I didn't create a master plan about this. I didn't even know about the job until a few months after she started. She was really struggling to find a job. As mentioned previously, she's shy and lacks confidence. She struggled to fit in at secondary school and although uni was a lot better, it had it's own issues. She really struggles with her communication skills. The team are lovely and really friendly and always try to include her. In any other places, id worry she'd get picked on. Here, they are nice and she's under my watchful eye so I know she'll be okay. I suspect she might be on the spectrum. She works hard and this job was perfect for her- doing isolated work on her own working with spreadsheets and data without having to communicate much with people.

If you are parents, I'm sure you'd understand. I'm just worried about her and wanted her settled. It so happened that the overall team manager went in long term sick and subsequently retired, so an opportunity arose where I could train my daughter on senior level work. It's almost like all the stars just aligned. I just wanted her settled in a job. She already struggles in so many areas in her life and I didn't want her struggling in work too.

As for writing the JD, yes it went through all the HR processes but in the absence of the team manager, the HoD asked me to draw something up as he obviously doesn't have a clue about the tasks. I wrote it up and he added a couple of things and signed it off to HR as though he had written it. I wasn't involved in the recruitment/ shortlisting or interview.

I hope this sheds some light on things, it's not always so cut and dry when people do terrible things.

Also to add, it wasn't from me to refuse the rest of the team to see the JD. This was a decision made by the HoD.

Edited

No, what you did was scummy and you know it was. If your daughter is so fucking bright and had a great future ahead of her then she’d have managed to get a job without mummy helping her. But she didn’t, she failed to do so. What would have made you a good person was to support your daughter in gaining the confidence to get a job of her own, like an adult:l. You know it and we know it. It’s not vitriolic, it’s factual and instead of giving your daughter the start she deserved, you failed her by not allowing to properly grow.

You did over all your ‘lovely’ colleagues with family’s and children who would have liked to have bettered themselves for your offspring who couldn’t be bothered to do it herself. At least own it.

The majority of us are parents. We want our children to stand on their own two feet, not get to adulthood and still be reliant on mummy.

Ihateboris · Today 08:43

ainsleysanob · Today 08:40

No, what you did was scummy and you know it was. If your daughter is so fucking bright and had a great future ahead of her then she’d have managed to get a job without mummy helping her. But she didn’t, she failed to do so. What would have made you a good person was to support your daughter in gaining the confidence to get a job of her own, like an adult:l. You know it and we know it. It’s not vitriolic, it’s factual and instead of giving your daughter the start she deserved, you failed her by not allowing to properly grow.

You did over all your ‘lovely’ colleagues with family’s and children who would have liked to have bettered themselves for your offspring who couldn’t be bothered to do it herself. At least own it.

The majority of us are parents. We want our children to stand on their own two feet, not get to adulthood and still be reliant on mummy.

Well bloody said.

Ilikeanimalsmorethanpeople · Today 08:47

ThatCyanCat · Today 07:48

I did nothing wrong.

Then why did you post it on a thread asking people for the worst things they'd ever done?

And I can't believe the arrogance of "parents will understand". I've reproduced too, twice, it doesn't mean I get to do whatever the fuck I want and claim noble altruism. No, it's not ok just because your daughter wasn't a good candidate and needed to do a little self improvement like everyone else's kids! You actually laughed at the other people who tried to do that and you prevented it!

This post makes it worse. I can definitely see why you want your daughter to inherit your job, with the lessons you've taught her she'll never gain anything on merit because she'll never gain the merit itself.

Absolutely! I am NHS and one manager does this all the fucking time its infuriating and as nice as her daughters are its very clear why they needed the help!

UhOhRatPoo · Today 08:50

AttentionPlease · Today 07:29

You’re misusing the term ‘garden(ing) leave’.

I’m more interested in the term “getting a big bag of dicks to eat”, personally…

ComfyKnickers · Today 08:51

Tredadt · Today 07:39

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Wow, I'm shocked at the utter vitriol and wishes and hopes my daughter fails. To clarify a few things. Firstly this is absolutely true and like someone pointed out, nepotism isn't illegal. Someone even mentioned that it's common in the NHS too. I did nothing wrong. Yes, I trained my daughter up and withheld training from other staff. However, my daughter is very bright. She got a first at university. With a little help from me, she picked it all up really quickly and is doing really well in the role. She isn't lazy or a failure.

When she came here after uni as a temp, I didn't create a master plan about this. I didn't even know about the job until a few months after she started. She was really struggling to find a job. As mentioned previously, she's shy and lacks confidence. She struggled to fit in at secondary school and although uni was a lot better, it had it's own issues. She really struggles with her communication skills. The team are lovely and really friendly and always try to include her. In any other places, id worry she'd get picked on. Here, they are nice and she's under my watchful eye so I know she'll be okay. I suspect she might be on the spectrum. She works hard and this job was perfect for her- doing isolated work on her own working with spreadsheets and data without having to communicate much with people.

If you are parents, I'm sure you'd understand. I'm just worried about her and wanted her settled. It so happened that the overall team manager went in long term sick and subsequently retired, so an opportunity arose where I could train my daughter on senior level work. It's almost like all the stars just aligned. I just wanted her settled in a job. She already struggles in so many areas in her life and I didn't want her struggling in work too.

As for writing the JD, yes it went through all the HR processes but in the absence of the team manager, the HoD asked me to draw something up as he obviously doesn't have a clue about the tasks. I wrote it up and he added a couple of things and signed it off to HR as though he had written it. I wasn't involved in the recruitment/ shortlisting or interview.

I hope this sheds some light on things, it's not always so cut and dry when people do terrible things.

Also to add, it wasn't from me to refuse the rest of the team to see the JD. This was a decision made by the HoD.

Edited

I don't care about your justifications and excuses.

I don't hope your daughter fails, I never said that.

I hope you get sacked though.

ThatCyanCat · Today 08:53

Ilikeanimalsmorethanpeople · Today 08:47

Absolutely! I am NHS and one manager does this all the fucking time its infuriating and as nice as her daughters are its very clear why they needed the help!

"I had to do it, my daughter was a shit candidate, oh the mothers (of the worthier candidates I fucked over and laughed at) will hear my cry" really isn't the justification she thinks it is.

I guess the consolation is that a) everyone will know why the daughter got the job and b) rightly or wrongly, everyone expects corruption, dishonesty and nepotism or similar in that sector so they probably aren't surprised. They won't have fooled anyone.

AttentionPlease · Today 08:54

UhOhRatPoo · Today 08:50

I’m more interested in the term “getting a big bag of dicks to eat”, personally…

That too! Especially if you can order it to be delivered!

Ilikeanimalsmorethanpeople · Today 08:56

ThatCyanCat · Today 08:53

"I had to do it, my daughter was a shit candidate, oh the mothers (of the worthier candidates I fucked over and laughed at) will hear my cry" really isn't the justification she thinks it is.

I guess the consolation is that a) everyone will know why the daughter got the job and b) rightly or wrongly, everyone expects corruption, dishonesty and nepotism or similar in that sector so they probably aren't surprised. They won't have fooled anyone.

Absolutely right, they always think no one realises what they are upto or have done! We joke about it now and even ask her who the next relative shes getting in is! The kicker was she then got her daughters boyfriend in aswell 🤣

AttentionPlease · Today 09:00

Tredadt · Today 07:52

I did nothing wrong from a legal perspective, that's what I meant. I put this on the thread because I do realise I manipulated the situation in my daughter's favour which obviously wasn't right. . Like I said the team are a really nice group of people but they already have jobs and children and families and my daughter my never have that.

the team are a really nice group of people but they already have jobs and children and families and my daughter my never have that

That makes no sense. So now you're justifying cheating the system because your daughter may never have a job (she does -- you got it for her!), a family (she has one! She has a mother who sees no harm in cheating other people of opportunities to advantage an adult child she appears to think is substandard), or children. Why wouldn't she have children? Because she's shy and quiet and bad at interviews, and everyone who has children is confident and expansive?

Laurmolonlabe · Today 09:17

shehardlysleeps · 20/04/2026 17:30

Maybe I’m a bad person, but I think ‘someone’ did a very good thing

Karma is a bitch.

Laurmolonlabe · Today 09:22

Nepotism might not be illegal strictly speaking, but like conflicts of interest it needs to be declared when the recruitment process is live- if you fail to disclose it , then when it is discovered (and it is always discovered) the company or organisation is well within it's rights to terminate that person without notice.

Gardenalia · Today 09:25

FleetwoodMcDonalds · 20/04/2026 20:34

To anyone over 50 - do you dwell on things you did in your teens, 20s and early 30s?

Asking because I'm 40 soon and exhausted from all the ruminating! 🙈

Finally grew up at age 35 when I had therapy about my messy childhood!

Yup, it never stops. I’m 63 and still regret teenage and 20s behaviour

All the bad things I did in that time are at about the same level as each other - wanton unkindnesses to people who deserved better.

The bad things in the last 10 years are to some degree worse though, as I knew they were bad but I did them anyway because it suited me to do so.

Britainisgreat · Today 09:27

I got an Indian family deported. They'd come for a wedding on a 6 month visa but overstayed. She was rude to me, called me lazy so I took revenge. Rang the cop shop. Cops and immigration went at 6am and took them to a detention centre then flown back home.

ToffeePennie · Today 09:39

UhOhRatPoo · Today 08:50

I’m more interested in the term “getting a big bag of dicks to eat”, personally…

You can go online and buy “spite” items. So I looked up spite stuff and found a “big bag of gummy dicks” with the words “Eat a dick” printed on the wrapper. Supposedly it’s the sugar free gummy stuff too with warnings about eating more than 1 at a time: I guess they are also good for hen dos maybe?

thepariscrimefiles · Today 09:53

Tredadt · Today 07:39

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Wow, I'm shocked at the utter vitriol and wishes and hopes my daughter fails. To clarify a few things. Firstly this is absolutely true and like someone pointed out, nepotism isn't illegal. Someone even mentioned that it's common in the NHS too. I did nothing wrong. Yes, I trained my daughter up and withheld training from other staff. However, my daughter is very bright. She got a first at university. With a little help from me, she picked it all up really quickly and is doing really well in the role. She isn't lazy or a failure.

When she came here after uni as a temp, I didn't create a master plan about this. I didn't even know about the job until a few months after she started. She was really struggling to find a job. As mentioned previously, she's shy and lacks confidence. She struggled to fit in at secondary school and although uni was a lot better, it had it's own issues. She really struggles with her communication skills. The team are lovely and really friendly and always try to include her. In any other places, id worry she'd get picked on. Here, they are nice and she's under my watchful eye so I know she'll be okay. I suspect she might be on the spectrum. She works hard and this job was perfect for her- doing isolated work on her own working with spreadsheets and data without having to communicate much with people.

If you are parents, I'm sure you'd understand. I'm just worried about her and wanted her settled. It so happened that the overall team manager went in long term sick and subsequently retired, so an opportunity arose where I could train my daughter on senior level work. It's almost like all the stars just aligned. I just wanted her settled in a job. She already struggles in so many areas in her life and I didn't want her struggling in work too.

As for writing the JD, yes it went through all the HR processes but in the absence of the team manager, the HoD asked me to draw something up as he obviously doesn't have a clue about the tasks. I wrote it up and he added a couple of things and signed it off to HR as though he had written it. I wasn't involved in the recruitment/ shortlisting or interview.

I hope this sheds some light on things, it's not always so cut and dry when people do terrible things.

Also to add, it wasn't from me to refuse the rest of the team to see the JD. This was a decision made by the HoD.

Edited

Your actions may not have been illegal but they are certainly immoral and you probably broke employment law, I would imagine that your conduct during the recruitment and interview process would be considered to be gross misconduct if your managers find out what you have done.

Training your daughter up is fine. Witholding training from other staff certainly is not.

If your daughter is as bright as you say, why couldn't you help her with her application and her interview technique without breaking employment law in the way you actively sabotaged a level playing field for staff other than your daughter? If she is so clever, surely she would have got the job without your nepotistic and deceitful behaviour?

Beachtastic · Today 09:56

Ooohhhh I could list all sorts of things, from the trivial to shocking things that would have pearls not simply clutched, but ripped off and flung into the bushes.

What characterises them all is lack of consideration for others. I think we are born arseholes, with the awareness of (say) a predatory mammal, and have to learn what hurts. We do that by experiencing it ourselves. Looking back on past relationships can be a bit of an eye-opener, when we get to feel "the boot on the other foot" as it were.

To PPs who asked if you grow out of this remorseful rumination, no you don't, or at least I never did (in my 60s, and still curling my toes at certain memories that assault me at 3am!). But I tell myself that being human is all about learning this stuff, and arguably that's what life is for.

KalamityKat · Today 10:34

Britainisgreat · Today 09:27

I got an Indian family deported. They'd come for a wedding on a 6 month visa but overstayed. She was rude to me, called me lazy so I took revenge. Rang the cop shop. Cops and immigration went at 6am and took them to a detention centre then flown back home.

Edited

Wow !

UnctuousUnicorns · Today 10:43

Tredadt · Today 07:39

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@Differentforgirls @ComfyKnickers @Livpool @Ihateboris @Newyearawaits @ainsleysanob @BluebelllsRosesDaffodills odills @Yeseyeam @thepariscrimefiles @vanillachoc

Wow, I'm shocked at the utter vitriol and wishes and hopes my daughter fails. To clarify a few things. Firstly this is absolutely true and like someone pointed out, nepotism isn't illegal. Someone even mentioned that it's common in the NHS too. I did nothing wrong. Yes, I trained my daughter up and withheld training from other staff. However, my daughter is very bright. She got a first at university. With a little help from me, she picked it all up really quickly and is doing really well in the role. She isn't lazy or a failure.

When she came here after uni as a temp, I didn't create a master plan about this. I didn't even know about the job until a few months after she started. She was really struggling to find a job. As mentioned previously, she's shy and lacks confidence. She struggled to fit in at secondary school and although uni was a lot better, it had it's own issues. She really struggles with her communication skills. The team are lovely and really friendly and always try to include her. In any other places, id worry she'd get picked on. Here, they are nice and she's under my watchful eye so I know she'll be okay. I suspect she might be on the spectrum. She works hard and this job was perfect for her- doing isolated work on her own working with spreadsheets and data without having to communicate much with people.

If you are parents, I'm sure you'd understand. I'm just worried about her and wanted her settled. It so happened that the overall team manager went in long term sick and subsequently retired, so an opportunity arose where I could train my daughter on senior level work. It's almost like all the stars just aligned. I just wanted her settled in a job. She already struggles in so many areas in her life and I didn't want her struggling in work too.

As for writing the JD, yes it went through all the HR processes but in the absence of the team manager, the HoD asked me to draw something up as he obviously doesn't have a clue about the tasks. I wrote it up and he added a couple of things and signed it off to HR as though he had written it. I wasn't involved in the recruitment/ shortlisting or interview.

I hope this sheds some light on things, it's not always so cut and dry when people do terrible things.

Also to add, it wasn't from me to refuse the rest of the team to see the JD. This was a decision made by the HoD.

Edited

Lol.

CarbootJunction · Today 11:16

I had a short affair with a married colleague. Him and his wife were going through the stress of IVF, and he was easy pickings for a single, flirtatious girl. No-one ever found out. They went on to have children, and are still happily married 27 years later. I still think about the hurt we'd have caused her if she had known about it.

Beachtastic · Today 11:18

Coffeegirl40 · Yesterday 08:40

Had a friend sleep over we were about 10. Told her there was a dead baby in my mums wardrobe on the top shelf and sometimes at night the door would open by itself and the baby would fall out and slither round the house. She was hysterical and had to go home. No idea why I said that!

That reminds me of something I once did when I was a young teen. My best friend told me she was getting her hair cut on Saturday. She lived over the other side of the city, near our school, and I knew her parents would be at work on Saturday. I also knew where they kept the doorkey (under a plant pot next to the porch), because sometimes I went home with her after school.

So I spent 1.5 hours getting buses over to her house so that I could hide in the understairs cupboard, where I crouched in the dark, panting with excitement, waiting for her to get back from the hairdresser's so that I could pounce out and shock her.

She let herself into the house about 20 minutes after my arrival and I heard her saying to the hallway mirror, "Not bad..." - at that moment, I flung open the door of the cupboard and roared at her. Needless to say, she nearly died of fright!

Now, I just can't believe I was such a fucking psychopath - to plan this so meticulously, to spend so long on travel and waiting, the sheer delight I took in her terror!!!!!!! 🤯🤯🤯 and I was presumably "old enough to know better"... I'm just really glad that people don't generally die of heart attacks at the age of 13.

Come to think of it, our friendship cooled a little after that. It's only just occurred to me to join up the dots on this. At the time, I thought it was an absolutely brilliant wizard wheeze 🤡

I suppose there is a chance she might be on MN nowadays, and read this. In which case, I'm really sorry. And you know exactly who I am 🫣

UnctuousUnicorns · Today 11:27

CarbootJunction · Today 11:16

I had a short affair with a married colleague. Him and his wife were going through the stress of IVF, and he was easy pickings for a single, flirtatious girl. No-one ever found out. They went on to have children, and are still happily married 27 years later. I still think about the hurt we'd have caused her if she had known about it.

No, you and he are just responsible for her unknowingly living a lie for the past 27+ years, because neither you nor he had/have the guts to tell her the truth and let her decide what path she wants to take after finding out that she's married to a cheating scumbag. Bravo.