To think no one can SERIOUSLY want Starmer to go now, it’s media created instability designed to damage the UK.

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trump, wars, Israel invading Lebanon, US mid terms…….

it would mental for Starmer to go and it’s a trap.

yabu - of course Starmer has to go, despite what is happening in the world right now.

yanbu - time to move on and deal with trump and the blatant manipulation of the media by Russia, right wing billionaire interests.

It’s not him being unpopular that’s the problem. It’s all the years he sat on the opposition benches demanding various Tories resign for different things but when he’s in charge it’s everyone else’s fault and he’s constantly got excuses. His past tweets always resurface and show his hypocrisy.

I think Yvette Cooper could easily replace Starmer. As Foreign Secretary she is up to speed with foreign affairs, recent experience as Home Secretary, plus she has past economic experience - former Chief Secretary to the Treasury under Gordon Brown, previously worked as chief economics correspondent for The Independent before entering politics.

Agreed. I’m no fan of Starmer but really not the time! I mean, what we get Wes Streeting?! I’m not convinced that’s going to make anything any better!

Sorry didn’t mean to quote @Blimms . My reply was for the thread in general. Long day 😅

I said living memory. I’m old and even I don’t have political memories of 1966.

You do know that living memory doesn't mean your personal living memory? There are many people much older than you are (more than a quarter of a century older, some of them). It's in their living memory. 1966 is in my parents' living memory too.

The British gutter press think of politics as a spectator sport that coincidentally sells their rags for them as long as they can keep the populace buying. They don't care about the impact of political instability or the policies of different parties on ordinary people. They are well cushioned from reality.

I don't think there's anything he could do, he could perform bloody miracles and the right wing media would present it as a disaster.

Let's be honest the cards are stacked against him no matter what he does.

This is a joke right? I would happily walk over hot coals not to have that lying idiot in charge.

I'd love to see Starmer go. He's the worst ditherer. He's U turned 8 times. He makes consistently bad decisions like putting Lammy in charge of foreign affairs, like wanting to give awY the Chargos Islands then paying to rent them back, like putting RR as chancellor and then not sacking her when she was a proven liar. She is so addicted to lying she even lied about winning a chess competition. Starmer lies too. He was warned by several of his own party not go hire Mandy but he did it anyway. He even appointed him before waiting for vetting to take place. He is a huge liability and he needs to go.

Yeah, I’m worried he’ll be replaced by someone even shitter to be frank.

There's a lot of naivete on this thread.

It's not a case of can Starmer survive, it's a case of when will his MPs oust him.

The momentum at the moment is they want to get the local elections out of the way and then pounce.

Saying there's noone good enough to replace him and he therefore should stay suggests the party you're backing isn't that great.

I think many people are saying that no none from any party would be better than Starmer even if it were possible for them to be prime minister at the moment.

interesting ! I think the previous poster who said Starmer was boring and sensible had it right.

considering the car crash of recent Tory governments, Liz truss’s economic disaster and now she’s hanging out with Trump.

Labour has
green lit lots of new building projects
more wind farms
VAT on school fees
increased renters and workers protections
stayed out of the war !
closer ties with EU
increased defence spending after Tory party neglected the army forces.
reduced the ‘small boats’ - caused by farage and brexit by the way.

why don’t we hear about those things?

That’s exactly what we’re saying. I shudder to think where we’d be if any of the opposition party leaders had been PM over the last couple of months. As they say, perfect is the enemy of good.

Keir Starmer feels like a puppet PM only in post as he was deemed the most acceptable face for centrist Brits to vote for but in so many instances he comes across as completely oblivious to what’s actually going on. I’ve never known of a government to have had so long in opposition to prepare and to make the job of governing look like such hard work. I’d love a general election asap and to vote this lot out. (FWIW if Keir did go and we didn’t have a general election, I think Darren Jones would be a reasonable replacement but it will likely be someone from the hard left- god help us all. Last comment, I’m not a fan of KS as PM but I do think he’s done a good job of reconnecting Britain on the international stage just domestically he’s been abysmal, as had RR.)

He is facilitating the genocide in Gaza by providing information and weapons. He’s also pandering to Trump, whose an actual dictator. All while doing nothing to help British citizens. I am surprised you’d think that’s fine

An MP revealed in the House last September that Mandelson had failed the vetting process.

There really is no way back for Starmer from this

https://x.com/i/status/2045511553529659514

In the uk we dont elect a prime minister we elect a party.

@partmermaidpartplant I really dont think you understand quite how bad the mandalson fiasco is.
Mandalson failed the highest security vetting in this country which means hes a danger to the country and cant be trusted to see top secret intelligence as he is open to blackmail and bribery. Yet Starmer chose to ignore it and gave him clearance anyway. This sort of corruption has never been allowed to happen under any other UK government.

The simple fact is Starmer has put this country at risk just for his buddy and is now trying to throw everyone under the bus to try and protect himself.
Even if you believe Starmer that he didn't know (not possible) he has completely lost control of the civil service and that has allowed the security of this country to be compromised so he could put his friend in a position of power and give mandalson access to top secret information.
All.of that is before we look at the rest of Starmers lame duck premiership. The man and party are not fit for power, they are turning us into an authoritarian country with speach being policed in dangerous ways and are driving our country into bankruptcy just as every other labour government has in history. Some of us on this site are old enough to remember when we had to be bailed out by the IMF dur to labour mismanagement and are watching on in horror as history is repeating itself again.

The whole labour party belong in the bin

If there was a credible person to replace him then yes, I think he should resign. Unfortunately there isn’t so it might be a case of ‘better the devil you know’.

No! I voted Labour and I want him to go.

Because he and Reeves have proved useless and he is pursuing bizarre policies like ID cards that nobody wants while failing to address the cost of living and demonising disabled people. They also killed the job markert with their increase in national insurance for employers.

He has done nothing to curb utility companies profiteering or hasn't been bold enough to say that Brexit was a disaster and that we need to find a way to rejoin.

He is no Labour leader and has no vision whatsoever for the country.

He will be toast anyway after the May elections...

I don’t know who ultimately pulls the strings in government (someone in the blob?) but I think the Americans/Trump wanted Peter Mandelson as the US diplomat and the Brits kowtowed to accommodate this. Everyone in the UK knew of Mandelson’s unsuitability for such a role but a blind eye was turned in the hope that his appointment could be “handled”. It’s all coming home to roost now. KS won’t go until after the local elections when hopefully the electorate will express their digust with all the corruption in govt and jobs for the boys, however unsuitable..

This sort of corruption has never been allowed to happen under any other UK government.

Johnson failed security clearance as Foreign Secretary.

Some of us on this site are old enough to remember when we had to be bailed out by the IMF dur to labour mismanagement and are watching on in horror as history is repeating itself again.

Only half of the loan was actually drawn by the British government and it was repaid by 4 May 1979,[13] the day after the general election. Denis Healey, the Chancellor of the Exchequer at the time, went on to state that the main reason the loan had to be requested was that public sector borrowing requirement figures provided by the Treasury were grossly overstated.[14]

Yeh that’s bad for him.

You realise not everyone thinks these are good things, right?