To suspect police are worried about vigilantes - Epsom attack

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I live relatively close to Epsom and so this appalling assault is all over my news feeds and social media.

BBC News - Town left in shock by appalling rape outside church
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8dl5yevjg9o

The police have asked for witnesses but no descriptions have been given. Cue lots of very disturbing posts and comments from people who very clearly think these men are not white.

I can think of half a dozen scenarios where this is not being disclosed but, based on the comments, I think it all comes down to fears that local communities will take it on themselves to "apprehend" anyone who even vaguely looks like the perpetrators? And while the comments I am seeing are mostly white people being disgusting in their assumptions about brown and black people, i can imagine police would he equally concerned if, for example, the woman was Asian or Black and her attackers were white.

Is this where we are at? Where people make horrible racist assumptions and/or where police have to worry about how they will protect the broader community if they give any details of criminals?

Yes. It is pretty horrible for the victim that the police have had to issue that statement.

Well done to the protestors for making her situation even more traumatic.

Yes, agree with this. There does seem to be a pattern here that the BBC likes to downplay and minimise. Generally speaking, the local medica are providing far better, less biased information than the BBC.

The update is the police have called the victim a liar in not so many words. That there isn’t evidence.

I don’t think it’s necessarily calling her a liar. Could be they don’t believe her account or that simply she is too traumatised to be a reliable witness.

I mean the protestors aren’t likely to care about the victim all that much.

Have you heard the statement?
“not believing her account” by your statement (not theirs ) is calling her a liar

They didn’t have to add that line, the protestors didn’t make them. Not sure what it means about the case either.

Exactly.

Is it? To say that they haven't found any evidence yet that the offence was actually committed?

I can only recall statements saying that there's insufficient evidence to issue a statement, not that there's none to suggest any crime.

Which line do you mean?

This doesn't seem at all "normal" for a gang rape to me.

www.essexnewsandinvestigations.com/single-post/epsom-gang-rape-police-find-no-evidence-of-offence-as-reported-or-of-asylum-seeker-involvement

@IamRedCrossnotJesusthis one

Rather than demanding the lynching of all asylum seekers as the racists are saying and rather than saying lynch all men as some "women are always right" campaigners are saying, let's let evidence be gathered, statements be taken and the truth will emerge.

I wonder if they had to add that because of the protestors saying if everything they discussed in private with the police wasn't released in the statement, they would release it themselves?

Pete added the two would wait for the police to release more information on Friday before deciding whether to give their own account of how the meeting went.
He said: “If we feel like they haven’t released anything that we’ve discussed in there this evening, then we’ll release that.”

In any case I feel sorry for the woman involved. The "protesters" have not helped her one iota, quite the opposite. Stupid thugs

Are the Police saying no evidence of a rape?

I posted a link earlier in the thread but last year a gang rape was reported near a church, but it turned out not to have happened.
I got the feeling this one might be similar given the lack of details.

No I don't think so. They are doubtful the incident happened at all.

“To date, we have not found any evidence of the offence as reported but the investigation is ongoing”
IamRedCrossnotJesus’s post at 16.03 quotes more from the police’s statement.

Who has suggested that anyone should be lynched??
Making up inflammatory nonsense about ‘racists’ is not helpful to anyone.

I think the lack of information released by the police leading to people assuming that immigrants did it and that they should not be allowed to be here is what posters are suggesting is racist.

It has been extraordinary seeing people use this horror to justify their racist views.

Should it turn out that some of the arrangements for the demonstration were made before the complaint about the alleged offence it would be even more worrying.

No immigrants or asylum seekers involved.

So what do the so called protesters want now?

Anyone still claiming they are interested in the safety for women and girls?

Will disappear quicker than sna aff a dyke.
NE Scottish saying.

Yes. As usual some have shown their true colours. Same as when many gleefully jumped to conclusions over the Huntingdon train stabbings.

It would be a bit reprehensible for somebody to make up something like this.