How do clairvoyants know things??

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I have never believed in this, I saw one once just for fun at my aunties house and she wasn’t great. She did say a few things that were accurate, but I put this down to being guesses or general vague things that would be relevant to the majority of people.

However, recently my friend went to one. She recently lost her dad and her partner. Without telling the clairvoyant anything, she knew how her partner died and what his name was. She mentioned my friends dad blowing kisses in a weird way, with the palm of his hand instead of his fingers, which is something he did used to do. How would she know these things??? I don’t honestly believe in it, but can’t understand how she’d know such specific things

A good medium or clairvoyant

That’s quite the oxymoronic phrase!

I think you should give yourself much more credit for your own strength and tenacity. It happened because of you. What you did.

Ha.....well, I wish now that I had carefully listened to the voice, but in the moment I was so shocked and a bit frightened in case he was saying something I didn't want to hear that I kind of did the whole "la la la I'm not listening thing" and zoned out the voice, even though I could still hear him talking to me in the background. It was just too much for me in the moment....but it only lasted maybe 5 or 6 seconds.

About 3 years later my dad passed away and I went through a period of deep grief....I remember taking myself off to bed one weekend afternoon...and again I managed to get in to a very relaxed state, kind of meditative, thinking about happier times with my dad....I remember getting to this ultra peaceful place and must've stopped breathing or something (??) because again I heard my ears make a high pitched sound and also felt a plucking feeling iny ears as if they were turning in to a different frequency....and then I heard (the same?) male voice clearly saying 'breathe"....I thought, what? Am I not breathing? I came back to full consciousness and could hear myself gasp for breath and thought, wow, maybe I did stop breathing! (But I hadn't been aware that I had). I feel like the voice is my guardian angel and he saved me in that moment and that it wasn't yet my time to go...
People might think I'm crazy, but that is my experience

That was 10 yes ago but those 2 experiences were so profound to me that I truly believe there is more to this existence than we understand

My friend was a stripper aeons ago when young and broke, the clairvoyant mentioned her stage name, the clubs she worked in with descriptions of cheap tawdry decor, described crowds of horrible men whistling and whooping. Described her son who had died of a sars type virus in the 80s & named him. That my friend only liked melted ice cream.

Ha, yes. that's what my DH says aswell, but it was so profound and real and not a dream and unless it happens to you personally I'm unable to convince you....not that I'm trying to....it's just my experience that's all

Thanks I'll look that up:)

I’m totally in the fence with this. I do sometimes get a very good hunch about stuff and it happens. I think It’s because I’m very good at reading situations, mainly because I notice clues and have an excellent memory.

I’ve seen enough about cold readings though to assume that’s how must of it works.

I think some people are very perceptive, and that this can be misconstrued
The best example I can think of is....

Sometimes when you are driving, you see a car and suddenly think it's going to do something unpredictable eg suddenly stop, pull out on you, jump a light.

You can't name it or identifying it, but your brain is amazing often at picking all sorts of signals like an unusual road position, the way the driver is holding eye contact etc.

I work in nhs, and lots of staff develop a sixth sense about stuff. The patient is clearly giving off something like a subtle change of colour, smell etc that you can't identify but suddenly get a bad feeling. There are lots of staff who will keep people beyond what seems reasonable with normal odds because it just doesn't feel right and usually they are right

I'm normally very good at identifying pregnancy really early, I don't know why but sometimes people just really clearly seem pregnant. I think its sometimes peoples features change, they guard their stomach/change posture subconsciously. I've felt it, before people themselves have known and often before announcements. I'm not psychic, I'm just like one of those dogs that can detect blood sugars!

Our gut feelings are often based on cognition we don't know about

I do know what you mean. I've been a teacher for many, many years and know how to handle teenagers, there's nothing I haven't dealt with. I always know when someone is lying, or troubled, or covering something up, usually before the parents do. I'm sorting out issues every day and I can just work it out, as you do, from various clues.

Auditory hallucinations, when in a relaxed state or on the verge of sleep, are super common. I sometimes hear music, or think I've heard a loud crash. More here: https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/symptoms/23233-auditory-hallucinations

When I was younger and more gullible I visited supposed clairvoyants - they were all charlatans and full of shit. Once you see them guessing and trying to cold call it’s pretty obvious that’s how they work.

Actually, the girls' deposition site was found by accident by a local gamekeeper investigating a suspicious smell/fire. The same day, witness statements and clothing finds enabled the initial arrest of Huntley and Carr. Forensics and witness statements were later used as part of the prosecution case.

My comment, as I am sure you realise, was simply to show how the victim of a serious crime can sometimes make sense of things with the help of a medium, and the limits and perceptions of this are made clear in Kevin's book, where he also discusses the police response to the medium's remarks.

Right.

A while back I started listening to the Uncanny podcasts, as I love a ghost story. I ended up being far more interested in the analysis of the events, with the likes of Ciaran O'Keefe. I've also attended a couple of Skeptics In The Pub talks from Chris French and Brian Sharpless. I've ended up absolutely fascinated by just how glitchy and unreliable the human brain is, and how we persuade ourselves that supernatural things must be real.

Prof French's book "The Science Of Weird Shit" is a must-read.

Some of the claims on here for the powers of clairvoyants are certainly extraordinary.

That sounds really fascinating. Talking of science and the Soham murders (qv), the work of forensic botanist Patricia Wiltshire is amazing. Literally matching plant pollen to the murderer.
Thus securing a conviction.

Or like those support dogs who can help their humans detect when they're about to have a seizure, I find all that fascinating

Can't animals detect earthquakes are coming a little bit before they actually do too?

Yes, they can, they're very sensitive. As such they can be incredibly useful.

I’m good at reading people, always have been, I’m not psychic. There are just many clues and I have an eye for detail that many don’t have. I also feel a bit of a vibe off of people, it doesn’t mean anything at all. A bit of a party trick was guessing what people did for a living, have done it in pubs when younger. A guy really freaked out once because I said he was a computer programmer and was spot on. His hands, his hobbies, his manner, the way he dressed, his glasses it was all such a give away. You can lead people with statements and they don’t realise they are doing it. It’s also the way you say it. Needless to say as a human if I’m honest I have been able to subtly manipulate many people to do what I want all my life. Fortunately I’m not an especially awful person.

DH (who knows about this stuff) says the animals detecting earthquakes thing is a nope. In some cases they might detect P-waves but only a few seconds before the main tremor. Everything else is anecdote with lots of confirmation bias.

Ah okay @moggerhanger damn I hoped that was true, especially the elephants huddling together in an open space! You husband sounds interesting, I love all that stuff

A thousand years ago we didn't have a clue about sound waves. Even now we think we know about them, whose to say we have everything right, especially as we can't even see them. For many years we thought the earth was flat.
It's important to keep an open mind.

Thanks, that's interesting - you never know what a myth is, in these cases.

That's a relief 😄!

Facebook / Instagram / etc.. A good online stalker can know more about you than you can know about yourself. These days it's ALL online, makes it easier for the shills to part you from your money.