How do clairvoyants know things??

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I have never believed in this, I saw one once just for fun at my aunties house and she wasn’t great. She did say a few things that were accurate, but I put this down to being guesses or general vague things that would be relevant to the majority of people.

However, recently my friend went to one. She recently lost her dad and her partner. Without telling the clairvoyant anything, she knew how her partner died and what his name was. She mentioned my friends dad blowing kisses in a weird way, with the palm of his hand instead of his fingers, which is something he did used to do. How would she know these things??? I don’t honestly believe in it, but can’t understand how she’d know such specific things

This is a very common phenomenon.
Look up hypnogogic and hypnopompic hallucinations.
Nothing even remotely woo about it.

So, I'm guessing he told all this to the police so the murderer was apprehended?
I thought the police acted on witnesses and forensic evidence?.

It always happens on these kinds of threads, ditto the accusations of being ‘closed minded’, and the eternal misquotation of Hamlet.

I’m as open-minded as the average person. Show me credible, peer-reviewed evidence of the existence of the supernatural or life after death or precognition, and I will be delighted to see it — why wouldn’t I? It would rewrite our current ideas about reality. It would be really interesting. But until then, a random on the internet remembering what some ‘psychic’ said to her about Auntie Beryl’s brooch in 1985 or something a bit funny she might have seen as a child on the landing, isn’t going to convince anyone.

Also, people who go to psychics of any sort are mostly going wanting a reading. And are predisposed to help the reader get it right. So the reader can say “Oh, I’ve got a Joan…is it Joan?” and you say “My mum’s neighbour was called Jean?” and the reader says “Yes-I’ve got Jean here” and by the time you leave, the reader has told you this thing she couldn’t possibly have known….

okay, but I’m not saying it makes sense. I think it’s a load of crap. I don’t belive in it. I just believe that what ever happens, happens for a reason. You don’t - fabulous! We are all different.

I mean, I know it’s a load of crap. When I was struggling to find a job, I got one as a phone line tarot reader and text answer service for the company that does the Mystic Meg and Russell Grant phone lines.

I’d never seen a set of tarot card in my life before then, and I certainly have no psychic powers, but I did go to drama school, so I managed to pass the short test interview and got the job (I ended up making about £1 an hour when you broke it down, it’s a scam on both ends).

You tell people what they want to hear.

And I’m not saying I don’t belive we have no free will at all. I could walk out of my house now, go and buy a bag load of drugs off the estate and chose to live in a doorway.

I mean that sometimes you can try and try to go down a path and it’s knock back after knock back until you have to stop - and then you see that it wasn’t meant to be because something better occurs.

How much free will do you think you have? Absolutely zero, or is it just that you believe some paths of life are just closed to you?
Have you been trying for your whole life to have a bacon sandwich for lunch but something bizarre always prevents you? Or have you been trying to make a big life change and failing, eg applying for a course in medicine as a mature student?

And if you decide to scratch your nose right now (go on do it, or maybe don't) is that because you can or because it is written so?

i’ve just edited my previous post.

sorry it’s difficult as I am partially sighted and I’ve typed to much it does my eyes in.

of course I have free will. But something ares aren’t meant to be Bo matter how much you try and push them.

Ok, so more like a cosmic plan than a script?

I saw a 'psychic' years ago when I was very low and desperate.

He was very accurate, however, given the state I was in, this was fairly easy guesswork for him.

However, he did say a couple of things that turned out to be true that I didn't know about at the time, but they turned out to be true.

He only knew my first name which is extremely common and my phone number isnt online.

He was also so extraordinarily empathetic that I actually felt better speaking from him then I did a couple of counsellors. I can only say it was a positive experience but I got lucky I think.

Not something I'd advocate or really believe in in the cold light of day.

I think the convincing ones are exceptionally intuitive and excellent at cold readings. My friend used to go regularly. She was a believer but apparently the dead like discussing stuff like home decor and domestic issues rather than the fundamental secrets of the universe and existence! My friend said the woman she went to did not charge but asked for ‘donations’.

A colleague of mine also used to moonlight on tarot lines, it’s a load of crap.

My dad used to tell me about an elderly female relative from when he was a kid. The family say she would stop in her tracks when someone died and knew before anyone else. She also knew women were pregnant before they knew themselves. Very strange

Call it what you want, I don’t call it anything.
It just is what it is, I don’t over think it.

For example. We live in a shithole of a place. We didn’t want our daughter going to secondary school here. So we put our house on the market and it was just diabolical. Five sales fell through for the most bizzare reasons.

Then, she got a place at a school that she really shouldn’t have, In another town . It’s one of the best schools in the country.

Had we moved, it wouldn’t have happened. We would have been nowhere near it and we would have been in serious debt (we live in a shithole as we have a minimal mortgage).

Something was keeping us here for a reason.

So while we had a year of stress trying to move, banging our heads against a brick wall with issue after issue. ultimately, it wasn’t the right thing to do and now we are in a great financial position and dd is at an amazing school (well gloss over the town we live in being a hell hole).

Ive had that a few times in life. We went through something horrific as a family last year. I don’t know how we got through it. At the time, I would have given anything for it not to be happening.

i’ve been writing for 25 years and I’ve never got anywhere. But this - a producer I know from way back took it on. I now have agent representation and it’s being turned into a screenplay for TV. It’s going to change the life of my family (and yes, we’ll move!)

So while that horrific thing happened, well, it was meant to for this.

Oh and don’t worry - I can’t see well but I take far more care writing that I do posting on forums.

I do think a very few people have some sort of gift or ability that can’t be explained.
A relative has experience of one such, an acquaintance, who incidentally doesn’t charge or do it by appointment. At a casual meeting she was told things relating to a relative (not close family) and an incident close to her death a few hundred miles away - nothing she could possibly have researched in advance.

Relative later conferred with her own mother, who’d been there, and confirmed what she’d been told.

Well, you've just confirmed everything I thought about those Tarot lines!
Sorry you were exploited, though.

I find it hard to believe that she knew women were pregnant before they knew themselves.

It really is bollocks.

You tend to get the same people calling you again and again - they don’t often clock it’s the same reader, but you remember voices and stories and so they think you are amazing.

When you text these numbers it’s even worse as every text you have ever sent, no matter who has answered it before, comes up on the screen. So you can scroll back, see what they have previously asked/been told and use that. So that’s why people think they are so accurate and amazing. It’s not at all. I could see what you had asked two years previously if you text from the same number.

But, they do all say, ‘for entertainment purposes only’. So if you read that and still want to waste your money, I’m sorry, but you have been warned.

Yes, indeed. Some entertainment. 🙁
Especially for vulnerable people.

But equally, it’s a lot of vulnerable people who work on them too. It’s shit pay.

You actually sound quite tenacious.

But whatever the reason am glad that some important areas of you and your family's lives are going so well. I hope it continues.

I’ve been to 2. The first one, like I said upthread, knew a very specific detail which absolutely NO-ONE else knew - not even my mum, sister or work colleagues. I definitely didn’t give anything away. The first thing the medium said (aside from hello, sit down), was “you don’t need to speak, I don’t need to know anything”. I was a quiet 18 year old who struggled to speak at the best of times 😂 She began with describing clothes I used to wear as a child - which was accurate, could have been guessed, but would be a very bizarre lucky guess. I still just sat. Then she said the baby I had terminated was doing well in the spiritual world, and would not have survived the living world, so the termination was the best decision. I was floored. She talked fluently, never guessed or looked up for approval or denial. She didn’t want confirmation of what she was saying.

The second I went to was clearly a cold reader, said nothing specific to me at all, was completely different to the first medium.

Everyone will always have differing opinions on this subject, but no-one should be outright saying I, or others, categorically did not have this happen in the way I, or they, said it did, or that mine/their memories are not as I/they believe it to be.

I agree there are charlatans out there, but there are also some genuine.

That's life, isn't it? Ups and downs, things working out in a way you least expect.

I think they are parasites who prey on the vulnerable, however, my ex ndn worked in a petrol station and had just returned to work after the death of her dh. A woman came in to pay and said "Jim says hi, wee muffin" and walked away. She stood there absolutely stunned, as that is what he called her. She had never seen this woman before or since.

With my experience she spoke fluently ,there were no 'do you know a John,Janet etc'
I sat quietly opposite her in her home with my arms relaxed on the chairs arm rests , i gave her nothing at all.
She spoke to me as if she were reading from a book , no hesitation ,no questions .
Of course i didn't know what my future would be at the time but what she did tell me happened in the sequence she told me , it was regarding my living mother and my late grandfather that convinced me that she was real .
Despite a pp saying i wouldn't be able to remember well i do , as if it were yesterday , it has always been a very clear memory for me , it was a special experience , i have never met anyone like her since but then i don't go searching.
Since childhood i have felt comfortable that there is more to come than this life , i'm not religious and have never been influenced by family but too many living people have too many 'experiences' connected to dead people to dismiss that there is more .
We will never reach a conclusion to this argument though , we just have to wait and see what happens when its our turn !

I can tell my husband or children are becoming ill before they know it themselves… and dogs have been trained to detect certain diseases or warn of drops in blood sugar levels in diabetics, among other things, so I find this the least extraordinary claim on here.
Perhaps this lady was able to detect… something. By smell or other means.

Nothing woo though, of course!

A good medium or clairvoyant would never tell you what to do. I was told about a house I would look at - very detailed description indeed. I was also told I would be offered a specific job completely out of the blue - not something in my current field and not something I had specifically applied for. It happened. She never said that I should live in the house or that I should take the job, only that it would be something I would be presented with. We have free will to do as we choose.