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Another child killed by a dog...

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tnorfotkcab · 09/04/2026 22:08

Another poor child is killed by a dog.... We already know this is an XL Bully, don't even have to wait for confirmation.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce35zkl9dg3o

A Google street view of Hardale Grove. It is a residential cul-de-sac with cars parked on the pavement.

Child dies in Redcar dog attack, police say

Police remain at the scene in Dormanstown, where one dog was destroyed earlier.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce35zkl9dg3o

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YeOldeGreyhound · 12/04/2026 00:50

JanBlues2026 · 12/04/2026 00:07

I bet it is a bull lurcher

edit to add the attacks always start when the weather picks up and continues through the summer months

Edited

My mum had a bull lurcher. She died at 16, and was the sweetest girl ever.

FishingInTheRiversOfLife · 12/04/2026 00:54

YeOldeGreyhound · 12/04/2026 00:50

My mum had a bull lurcher. She died at 16, and was the sweetest girl ever.

And?

YeOldeGreyhound · 12/04/2026 00:56

FishingInTheRiversOfLife · 12/04/2026 00:54

And?

Getting in before people say that all dogs with bull in them are killers.
But you read my post how you want, yes?

FishingInTheRiversOfLife · 12/04/2026 00:57

YeOldeGreyhound · 12/04/2026 00:56

Getting in before people say that all dogs with bull in them are killers.
But you read my post how you want, yes?

We know not all bull breeds are killers, but we also know they are over-represented in the killing stats. Ok?

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 12/04/2026 01:00

FishingInTheRiversOfLife · 11/04/2026 23:01

According to a local Facebook group, the mother was in the home with her baby, and left a door open as it was warm. Two offleash dogs (currently described as pocket bullies) ran into the house and attacked the baby.

Tragic. That poor family. Makes it worse for the parents than it being their own dog/choice/risk.

Yes I have just read about this,it wasn’t even their dogs but a neighbour’s dogs who ran into the house where the baby was.
I do agree it makes it worse that it wasn’t their own dog /choice/risk.
I know at the end of the day there is still a dead baby, but the parents did nothing wrong, it wasn’t them who had a killer dog but were sadly in the wrong place at the wrong time, which sadly can happen to anyone.

AcquadiP · 12/04/2026 01:12

Scampiniknak · 10/04/2026 22:44

Seen this story doing the rounds on social media and the comments are staggering. One person actually said ‘two sides to every story’ along with the usual ‘I own an XL and they are so soft, blame the owners.’

Honestly the stupidity of some people is staggering.

I agree. There's a world of difference between keeping a dog which in the event it bites, will do so in a bite and release fashion usually to the person's hand or arm; and keeping a dog which in the event it attacks, will literally go for the throat leaving the person with catastrophic and unsurvivable injuries. In addition, there has never been a breed which has attacked and killed its owners with such frequency as the XL Bully.
But you know, "wouldn't hurt a fly", "great with the kids". Until the dog turns...

likelysuspect · 12/04/2026 01:12

YourWinter · 12/04/2026 00:45

So there are conflicting comments quoted from local Facebook groups, the mother was at home with the baby and had left the door open, the off-lead dogs entered the house and one killed the baby… and separately, someone quoted as saying the baby didn’t live in the house where she was attacked, she was being looked after by a friend. They can’t both be correct.

Edited

They can both be correct of course, the friend could be in the house looking after the baby and the mother be pottering around too.

MandingoAteMyBaby · 12/04/2026 01:14

All dogs a toddler couldn’t beat in a fight should be banned.

YeOldeGreyhound · 12/04/2026 01:15

MandingoAteMyBaby · 12/04/2026 01:14

All dogs a toddler couldn’t beat in a fight should be banned.

A toddler should not know what fighting is.

MandingoAteMyBaby · 12/04/2026 01:19

YeOldeGreyhound · 12/04/2026 01:15

A toddler should not know what fighting is.

It shouldn’t, but it might need to fight a dog.

Frequency · 12/04/2026 01:19

So, I live in the area and have just been made aware that the mother is a friend of a friend and an acquaintance of mine. The baby was being looked after by a friend. Not that it matters, but hopefully you can now all stop the ghoulish speculation.

The mother and the friend are both - words cannot actually do justice to the state they are both in - but they both have internet access and do not need read how it was their fault.

The wider debate about XLs = fine. Does not apply in this situation. The debate about who is to blame is beyond the pale, imo.

YeOldeGreyhound · 12/04/2026 01:21

MandingoAteMyBaby · 12/04/2026 01:19

It shouldn’t, but it might need to fight a dog.

They still wont know what fighting is.
If you think they need to, then I really hope you are not in charge of small children.

MissHoof · 12/04/2026 01:27

Let's ban men too

AcquadiP · 12/04/2026 02:01

OonaStubbs · 11/04/2026 19:08

There are many animals that we do not allow people to keep as pets because they are dangerous. Lions, tigers and bears for instance. It wouldn't be that drastic a measure to add dogs to the list.

Except dogs are not wild animals, they've been domesticated for at least 15, 000 years. And it is perfectly possible to keep one of the wild animals you listed with a special licence and appropriate housing for the animal. This is covered under the Dangerous Wild Animals Act 1976.
Serval cats, for example, are being kept as pets.

YeOldeGreyhound · 12/04/2026 02:03

AcquadiP · 12/04/2026 02:01

Except dogs are not wild animals, they've been domesticated for at least 15, 000 years. And it is perfectly possible to keep one of the wild animals you listed with a special licence and appropriate housing for the animal. This is covered under the Dangerous Wild Animals Act 1976.
Serval cats, for example, are being kept as pets.

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Meet Oona. You wont win with this one.😆

AcquadiP · 12/04/2026 02:06

YeOldeGreyhound · 12/04/2026 02:03

Meet Oona. You wont win with this one.😆

😂

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 12/04/2026 02:08

Frequency · 12/04/2026 01:19

So, I live in the area and have just been made aware that the mother is a friend of a friend and an acquaintance of mine. The baby was being looked after by a friend. Not that it matters, but hopefully you can now all stop the ghoulish speculation.

The mother and the friend are both - words cannot actually do justice to the state they are both in - but they both have internet access and do not need read how it was their fault.

The wider debate about XLs = fine. Does not apply in this situation. The debate about who is to blame is beyond the pale, imo.

Edited

The only people who will say it is their fault are those who as always say “blame the other end of the lead, it’s how the dogs were brought up, they don’t attack for no reason.”
And of course you know why this mantra is spewed every time.
Its by those who advocate for pits/ XL etc,the dog cannot,cannot be at fault, it must be the owner.
I wouldn’t worry too much on the words on Mumsnet, I’d take a look on Facebook if you want to see some real eye opener victim blaming.

Soddingcat · 12/04/2026 06:58

I think there is a very simple way to reduce these attacks. No doubt I will be accused of being discriminatory, but i don't believe ive ever seen it suggested.

Ban all types of XL bully, pit bull ,Akitas,
along with crossed with them from social housing .

Virtually all the attacks show the scene before the breed, its nearly always a council estate, and you just know that its going to be a bully type dog.
People living on council estates who are sensible, should not have to fear for their children playing outside, or whilst walking to school

I read some comments on FB on local news reports and they are unbelievable, the utter stupidity of so many defending the dogs, one lady actually said “ I feel sorry for the dog “

With so many utterly stupid negligent people owning dogs like this things will never improve,

I have a friend who works with a dog charity, they have dog bite owners sent to them by the courts, and she said the one thing they all have in common is that they did not believe their dog would bite .
They were all so shocked.

So many people now simply do not understand /refuse to learn about dog behaviour.
It’s quite scary and spoils it for all the many wonderful dog owners.

I would support a list of allowed dogs, a ban on everyday breeders , with a huge fine for anyone caught breeding, a hefty licence fee to pay for it all, a test required like a driving theory test to prove you know about dog language before a licence is permitted , compulsory insurance , and if your dog attacks someone there is a huge penalty,

Obviously that wont happen, but i don't understand why this government is so accepting of people being mauled to death

<waits for inevitable outraged comments …>

TheGoldenOwl · 12/04/2026 07:20

I am so conflcited on this topic.

Dogs biting humans is unacceptable. Period. Nobody disagrees with that.

And the ban stipulates the XLs be muzzled, not off lead etc. Makes sense, I support this.

But then part of me wonders if that means there are just a load of potentially dangerous dogs who are now also unerexercised and frustrated. That is an even bigger risk than before.

I wonder this because the type of person to have this kind of dog is usually not the type of person to have spare tenners several times a week to spend on secure dog paddocks to have off lead time.

That's if they're even allowed off lead in the secure private rent by the hour fields?

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 12/04/2026 07:48

Soddingcat · 12/04/2026 06:58

I think there is a very simple way to reduce these attacks. No doubt I will be accused of being discriminatory, but i don't believe ive ever seen it suggested.

Ban all types of XL bully, pit bull ,Akitas,
along with crossed with them from social housing .

Virtually all the attacks show the scene before the breed, its nearly always a council estate, and you just know that its going to be a bully type dog.
People living on council estates who are sensible, should not have to fear for their children playing outside, or whilst walking to school

I read some comments on FB on local news reports and they are unbelievable, the utter stupidity of so many defending the dogs, one lady actually said “ I feel sorry for the dog “

With so many utterly stupid negligent people owning dogs like this things will never improve,

I have a friend who works with a dog charity, they have dog bite owners sent to them by the courts, and she said the one thing they all have in common is that they did not believe their dog would bite .
They were all so shocked.

So many people now simply do not understand /refuse to learn about dog behaviour.
It’s quite scary and spoils it for all the many wonderful dog owners.

I would support a list of allowed dogs, a ban on everyday breeders , with a huge fine for anyone caught breeding, a hefty licence fee to pay for it all, a test required like a driving theory test to prove you know about dog language before a licence is permitted , compulsory insurance , and if your dog attacks someone there is a huge penalty,

Obviously that wont happen, but i don't understand why this government is so accepting of people being mauled to death

<waits for inevitable outraged comments …>

Edited

I agree with everything you wrote 👌

QuintadosMalvados · 12/04/2026 08:29

Soddingcat · 12/04/2026 06:58

I think there is a very simple way to reduce these attacks. No doubt I will be accused of being discriminatory, but i don't believe ive ever seen it suggested.

Ban all types of XL bully, pit bull ,Akitas,
along with crossed with them from social housing .

Virtually all the attacks show the scene before the breed, its nearly always a council estate, and you just know that its going to be a bully type dog.
People living on council estates who are sensible, should not have to fear for their children playing outside, or whilst walking to school

I read some comments on FB on local news reports and they are unbelievable, the utter stupidity of so many defending the dogs, one lady actually said “ I feel sorry for the dog “

With so many utterly stupid negligent people owning dogs like this things will never improve,

I have a friend who works with a dog charity, they have dog bite owners sent to them by the courts, and she said the one thing they all have in common is that they did not believe their dog would bite .
They were all so shocked.

So many people now simply do not understand /refuse to learn about dog behaviour.
It’s quite scary and spoils it for all the many wonderful dog owners.

I would support a list of allowed dogs, a ban on everyday breeders , with a huge fine for anyone caught breeding, a hefty licence fee to pay for it all, a test required like a driving theory test to prove you know about dog language before a licence is permitted , compulsory insurance , and if your dog attacks someone there is a huge penalty,

Obviously that wont happen, but i don't understand why this government is so accepting of people being mauled to death

<waits for inevitable outraged comments …>

Edited

I wish there were a shorthand way of saying 'not every' etc, but you are right.

Certain dog breeds should be banned from social/council housing.

I honestly would not blame anybody for undertaking any measures they deemed necessary for getting rid of these beasts in their immediate vicinity. I mean it. Zero judgement.

I'd like to get rid of their dumb c*nt owners, too, but apparently it's not legal - or indeed possible- to send them to Mars.

GlovedhandsCecilia · 12/04/2026 08:31

QuintadosMalvados · 12/04/2026 08:29

I wish there were a shorthand way of saying 'not every' etc, but you are right.

Certain dog breeds should be banned from social/council housing.

I honestly would not blame anybody for undertaking any measures they deemed necessary for getting rid of these beasts in their immediate vicinity. I mean it. Zero judgement.

I'd like to get rid of their dumb c*nt owners, too, but apparently it's not legal - or indeed possible- to send them to Mars.

Edited

Why from social housing specifically? Surely it should be the type of house (if anything) and shouldn't matter whether you own it or not.

Should we be able to own our rottweiler but our social housing neighbours with a bigger property on the same estate not be able to?

QuintadosMalvados · 12/04/2026 08:41

GlovedhandsCecilia · 12/04/2026 08:31

Why from social housing specifically? Surely it should be the type of house (if anything) and shouldn't matter whether you own it or not.

Should we be able to own our rottweiler but our social housing neighbours with a bigger property on the same estate not be able to?

Because that's while you may get the odd dopey, airy fairy middle class woman who thinks all 'Truffles' (her xl bully/rescue rottweiler) needs is her love (just like her thug boyfriend) to make him behave the majority of these attacks do not occur in naice areas. They just don't.
This is bloody obvious.

You may not be able to set rules in private houses but you can have certain rules people have to adhere to in social housing.

Why not laws discriminate all the time.