AIBU to think Trump appears increasingly unhinged?

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Are you concerned that Trump has totally lost his marbles?

Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP

Good point.👍

There were red flags but absolutely not the same league.

Apart from Jan 6 of course... that announced Trump 2.0

Right back atcha.

Please read your own posts back. Are they models of Jane Austen-level politeness? I don't think so.

And.. can you explain.what am I so wrong about? I really don't understand what your point is, or why you are being so aggressive and following me around the thread.

The 'Biden would be worse' 'But Biden' posters certainly appear to do so

I have slightly struggled to think of people for whom Biden made life appreciably worse between the beginning of his term and the end of it; is there such a group? Racist thugs, possibly. But the economy was looking up, jobs figures were up, medication costs were down, violent crime was down, homicide was down, he was trying hard for more affordable housing (which would help a lot of people) and forgiving student loans or at the very least foregoing interest on them.... Who are the groups he damaged?

Unfortunately all/any good he did was overshadowed by his apparent determination to shoehorn deluded and/or fetishistic men into every woman only space/service/sport that he could while also legitimising the puberty blocking/hormones and brutal surgery of minors and vulnerable young adults.
Harris was very clear that she intended to continue this if she won.
Trump promised to put a stop to it.
Many Americans were absolutely sick of Gender Ideology and voted accordingly. Obviously there were other reasons - immigration was a big one. We can never know what might have happened had the Democrats rowed back on GI though. For many people it was a deal breaker if only because it made the Dems look like deluded imbeciles/liars. They were voted OUT rather than Trump being voted IN.

I doubt anyone who voted for Trump - whatever their reason - foresaw what's happening now. Hindsight is a wonderful thing. But right enough, it's not really relevant to the question of why NOW, no one seems willing to stop Trump. He's very clearly become extremely dangerous.

Where are these posts you speak of? I haven't read any posts suggesting that 'Biden would be worse'. But please point them out if I've missed something.

I think it's a comprehension issue again. What comes over to me is a sense of anger and disbelief that a man like Trump could be elected in the world's most powerful democracy not just once, which was traumatic enough, but twice. It's something I would never have believed possible 30 years ago when the US had a kind of moral respectability (up to a point).

I find it really hard to grasp why a country of this size, a developed country with a literate and educated population, can find no-one to effectively oppose Trump. I wish someone from the US would try to explain this.

I really struggle to think that seventy million people (in large part white, in large part male) actually gave a toss about the rights of women, you know. Maga supporters don't come over as being all that feminist; more Kinder, Küche, Kirche types, with a side order of anti abortion and barefoot in the kitchen.

Which 70 million people do you mean? I don't understand.

I mean if you could choose British and American nationalities would probably not be on your list 🤣

The ones who voted for Trump. I know there were more than that but cba to look up the exact figure.

I was replying to ElenOfTheWays not to you, sorry about that; hers was a long post I didn't want to quote in full, and then you got in a reply before mine went up. But honestly, while GI issues matter a lot to women, I don't think they are high in the MAGA priorities.

We’d be fucked then. Churchill was 66 at the beginning of WW2.

Ah - thanks! I wondered because I know that the UK population is about 70m.

Yes, I agree that the MAGA agenda is very like that of the Nazis towards women: Kirche, Kuche, Kinder.

Lots of policies and ideas which not so long ago would have seemed like a dystopian novel by Margaret Atwood are now becoming possibilities if they can't turn the tanker around. Even if Trump is stopped I'm afraid that the moral mood of the US has been changed so radically that someone similar will be elected. That's why I'm focused on what the Democrats (and the sensible Republicans) are doing right now to fight this. I really hope they are on the case.

As a cast-in-iron Trump loather, I have little to no idea what you're taking issue with.

Something that occurs to me about all this...

The public broadcasting service in the US is much smaller and less influential than the BBC. Yes, I know the BBC is struggling to remain relevant and supported nowadays, but even so, it still commands respect in its news and journalism.

I think the fact that the US has so many privately-financed and agenda-driven news channels is one reason why things have gone so badly wrong there.

And I hope this is a lesson to the UK - we need the BBC, whatever its shortcomings (and there are a lot!). Without them we'd be exposed to all kinds of malevolent influences.

No they won’t. Their ideology holds martyrdom at its core.

The ones who voted for him.

Which is entirely Trump’s problem. He has no concept of a regime that is not run along capitalist
lines and is not interested in being bought or making deals, and that does not feel the need to conform to the expectations of the Americans

Let's try and get this thread over the line...

So, a temporary reprieve.

Yes, of course Trump appears increasingly unhinged, to answer OP's question. I don't think anyone on here would argue with that.

What can be done about it? I don't want to come out and say what I think ought to happen....and I'm not even sure that would solve anything. My worry is for the way he seems to have changed the US and the world for the worse.

God help King Charles if he really has to go to the US - what a nightmare assignment.

Yes, there is a direct correlation between the health of a well-regulated public service media and the health of a country's democracy. I blame Reagan for this sad state of affairs. Back when Nixon stepped down, the US did have healthy journalism but the Republicans quickly saw to it that such a situation would never arise again.

I don't think the state visit should take place. We know the late Queen had to entertain some truly atrocious people at the behest of Government, but this is an active situation, even if the can has been kicked down the road (possibly) for 2 weeks.

If they can't stomach telling the truth about cancellation, there's always diplomatic flu. Anything is better than giving Trump and Co even the thinnest appearance of acceptance and 'respectability' and the chance to parade our monarch (who represents us) for his own hyper inflated ego.

@CoffeeCantata @StandFirm could that be why Trump and his cronies hate the BBC so much? ( rhetorical question).

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