AIBU to think Trump appears increasingly unhinged?

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Are you concerned that Trump has totally lost his marbles?

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Nobody has suggested that. We’re all arguing with your absurd assertion that they bear the entire responsibility. Which is clearly bollocks.

Biden did not have dementia. He had age related issues plus cancer.

It’s difficult to think of an individual who is more ill suited for public office. He doesn’t have a single redeeming feature. Totally, utterly dreadful.

If the US was a middle power, you'd have a point. The problem is that if you're a 'super power' and your so-called hegemony leads the rest of us into chaos and destruction, we reserve the right to hold it against you. Especially as we have no voice and representation, as you like to point out. Surely you can see how that rankles?
At least do us a favour next time and educate yourselves on how the world actually works: its history, geography, international relations, religions, biosphere etc. Too many US voters behave like they live on a different planet but let me break it to you: you guys very much breathe the same air we do, and your Trump-sized mistakes will eventually come back to bite you in the backside.

I take it you find it easier to blame the Democrats than putting the blame where it belongs.

People voted for Trump. You don't vote against someone

People knew what Trump was like.

As for men in suits puppeteering Biden, who do you think is puppeteering Trump @Livelovebehappy ?

Russia? Project 25? Epstein?

You’re not ‘all’ arguing against my assertion that the democrats are responsible for what’s happened. Many are actually stating the Democrats bear no responsibility. Biden was predicted to get in before his illness became obvious. The reality is that the democrats allowed him to damage the party’s credibility, which lost them votes.

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There was no reason that he was unwell at the election? You must have seen different Trump than I did. He sounded like raging lunatic back then. “They are eating cats, they are eating dogs” is the most famous of his insane comments because it was said during the televised debate, but he did not give one coherent speech.
Have you forgotten what happened after he lost in 2020? Don’t you remember 6th January and his social media posts from then? He also freed some of the culprits as soon as he was re-elected. Are those actions of a sane individual?

You’re really asking me that? The people in Biden’s office were repeatedly saying ‘nothing to see here’ despite everyone else watching things unfold saw what the situation was. It was even suggested many big decisions towards the end of his term in office were being made by others in his office because he was incapable of making them.

Exactly. Trump started something he can't finish. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes should be this administration's mantra.

Well that doesn’t make sense. By the fact that the Democrats are responsible for the loss actually does mean that they’re responsible for the current situation. Because had they not lost, then Trump wouldn't be in office.

The Democrats are to blame for their failure to get a Democrat elected.

The Republicans are to blame for having selected a fascist candidate to represent them.

The American electorate are to blame for having voted for the fascist.

Was Biden a good president?

I don't think the poster was objecting to anyone saying mean things about Trump. The question was why adult incontinence is seen as an appropriately humiliating thing to say about someone just to be mean about them?

My father refused to wear nappies when he was hospitalised for a brain tumour - the hospital supposedly didn't have enough staff available to help him to the toilet (in his ward, about 15 ft from his bed) so they put in a catheter which hurt him so much that he pulled it out inflicting injuries on himself. But he found wearing nappies so humiliating that he couldn't bear it.

So I can see why other posters might feel similarly upset to see alleged fecal incontinence being used as a weapon with which to mock Trump. You don't know what their personal or family history is.

I think if you take a minute you'll see that I was responding to the poster that has kept spamming the thread with lengthy AI generated slop under different user names. I presume that wasn't you?

And it's not even remotely degrading to suggest that someone with dementia type illness or poor mental health should not be the president of any country. Most people's elderly relatives don't hold international alliances, the world economy or entire populations' lives in their hands. Are you actually suggesting we ignore those things, like those around him are?

I'm not personally invested in the diaper bit as I think the real issue is that the most powerful person in the world appears to be in rapidly declining physical and mental health, is destroying international alliances, the world economy and openly threatening war crimes on his social media platform and no one seems particularly interested in stopping him.

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I'll never understand how the Democrats put themselves in the position of allowing Trump to be seen as possible presidential material after having lost in 2020. It was a mixture of things but how often has a candidate who has lost his own re-election bid been able to make a political comeback?

He should have been out forever after that, and I can't help feeling that incompetence from the Democrats (not just Harris, one of whose problems was that she was brought in too late to be credible) is a massive part of why he was re-elected in 2024.

Well are you going to give an answer?

'It was even suggested' Suggested by whom?

It’s also sockpuppeting and is against guidelines.

Blaming the democrats for Trump's victory is akin to blaming a woman's assault on her choice of clothing. Victim blaming. Sorry but not surprised that you don't understand.

Weird that you seem to think a man who was handed a business and still managed six bankruptcies (including a casino, which is almost impossible), was convicted of sexual assault, who announced publicly that he grabs women by the pussy, was convicted of 34 felonies, and banned from running charities is more competent than a woman who went to law school, became a prosecutor, and then was elected DA of California, Attorney General of California and United States senator.

Oh, yes, he seemed so much more qualified.

We ARE worried about our own country! The whole world will be affected by the ravings of a lunatic who thinks he’s the Second Coming!

The people to blame for Trump’s election are A, the people who voted for him, and B, those who helped rig the election.

Added to which, those who say “he wasn’t ill when he was elected,”. Really? Do people really believe that? He may not have had a diagnosed illness, but this is a man who advised people to inject bleach against COVID, who talked about how the people of Springfield were eating the pets of the locals. And you really think that’s normal? Really?

Trump has been a laughing stock since 2016 when he was originally elected. Let’s not pretend this behaviour is new. It isn’t. It’s just that he’s escalated it now because people have previously seen him as a bit of a halfwit to laugh at, and now it’s going horribly horribly wrong.

The news isn't being censored as such, but @StandFirm is right that a lot of media is now being consolidated under Trump sycophantic owners. In addition to the local stations that are increasingly owned by extreme right wing media groups (Sinclair, Fox, Newsmax), the Washington Post, CBS News have now fallen under regime-sympathetic ownership. If you watch Fox News you won't see anything negative about him (or much truth). You also have TikTok and X now under openly pro-Trump owners. If you have a few minutes look up what's happening with the FCC under Brendan Carr and Trump. It's a shit show.

Even places that do very good reporting like the New York Times tend to sanitise /normalise him to some extent. For example, on their live news page, they initially didn't put up his whole quote.

There are great sources of news out there, but you almost have to be looking for them.

At the election there was no reason to believe Trump wasn't well.

This would imply that you either didn't watch many of his speeches or rallies in the lead up to the election or that your bar is very low (when it comes to people who aren't accomplished brown women).

No this is JUST not a sensible comparison.

Elections are nothing like rape - it is two people or parties who choose to argue their case and let the voters decide which they find more convincing. The party/people who want to get into power are not passive victims of those in power, it's up to them to put their case well, and if they don't convince the public, that's not assault, it's democracy:

Not to mention that your narrative is even odder: that those in power were unable to make the right case to convince the public. Seriously - whose fault is that if not their own? I had no time for Republicans claiming that the election was stolen in 2020 for similar reasons, and this is just the same. The Democrats lost because they weren't good enough to convince enough voters to turn up.

It's a well-known axiom in UK politics that the opposition doesn't win an election, the party in power loses it. I think that's at least as true for the US presidential election.