AIBU to think Trump appears increasingly unhinged?

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Are you concerned that Trump has totally lost his marbles?

Tuesday will be Power Plant Day, and Bridge Day, all wrapped up in one, in Iran. There will be nothing like it!!! Open the Fuckin’ Strait, you crazy bastards, or you’ll be living in Hell - JUST WATCH! Praise be to Allah. President DONALD J. TRUMP

Who would have thought the country that prided themselves on being free would end up under a dictatorship. Censored news and social media. I mean, fucking hell. Fuck America

At the time of the election Trump was not displaying any mental issues

He's always displayed pathological narcissism, with everything that goes with it - dishonesty, inconsistency, cruelty, magical thinking etc. This is someone who advised drinking bleach, and inspired an attempted coup after he couldn't accept he'd lost an election.

Oh, I'm not arguing that the Democrats did everything right around that election. I agree they made decisions that hamstrung their candidate and that Biden stepping down and allowing a primary would have been a much better move. I think they certainly misread the room in a lot of ways, but she wasn't an inherently flawed candidate, which is what @Livelovebehappy seemed to be implying.

But everything about Trump was right out there in the open, plain to see. I mean, she publicly mopped the floor with him at the debate and it made no difference. The fact that people chose him can't be laid at the Democrats' door, and I say that, as I said earlier in the thread, as a pretty disenchanted Democrat, although that has more to do with their lack of spine since the last election than with the selection of Harris.

And I don't think the two countries are all that comparable, since here you're basically getting people to vote for the party that they feel best represents their interests locally, not choosing an overall leader in the same way. That's more akin to why, in the US, you sometimes see Democratic governors in red states and sometimes (more rarely, I think) vice versa.

Ronald Reagan had dementia towards the end of his term but nobody noticed because he had sane people taking care of him and making decisions. Not that I agreed with his politics but he wasn't anything like Trump.

Why are you arguing about whose fault it is FFS....it's happened and something needs to be done. Petty arguments about blame are ridiculous.

Trump took the piss out of Macron in a very personal and embarrassing way. Macron, because he is a statesman, did not take the bait. Imagine him snapping back with "at least I don't wear diapers" !

I do wonder if this is how voters exempt themselves from responsibility for voting for blatantly corrupt, vile people? Do they think there are always sane people behind the scenes who pull the strings and can stop the would-be mad dictator if they go too far, rather than thinking that their vote has directly empowered the arsehole they elected to cut any strings of sanity, take over and use himself as evidence that the electorate is too stupid to be trusted with democracy? People only need to look to Ceausescu to see how far the insanity can go once fully unchecked - right down to the same taste for embellishing everything with gold.

Elections are nothing like rape - it is two people or parties who choose to argue their case and let the voters decide which they find more convincing. The party/people who want to get into power are not passive victims of those in power, it's up to them to put their case well, and if they don't convince the public, that's not assault, it's democracy: except we all know it doesn’t necessarily work like that, and that just because someone doesn’t convince you, if you then vote for the other one purely because you didn’t want to vote for the first one, you’re still responsible for them coming to power.

That’s like these morons who say “I don’t want to vote for labour or conservative so I’m going to vote reform just because.

Nothing to do with whether you agree with Farage’s policies or not. If you vote for him, you’re responsible for him being there.

Same with Trump.

Otherwise we have to conclude that half the US population think the same as he does. And what does that tell you about the US citizens?

Yes I mostly agree with this.

Although what can be done by us over here? Nothing. But I'm disappointed that the King is going on with the state visit - surely that's one of the few ways people outside of America can show their feelings in a way that hurts Trump personally but is perfectly legal?

Also, I'm not sure that the arguments are "petty" because if nobody works out why it really happened, what's to stop it happening again with one of his sons for instance? Or someone else?

For instance I read that the ad that said "Kamala is for they/them, Trump is for you" is one that did the Democrats massive damage - well that's entirely self inflicted isn't it? And yet they seem to be doubling down on that.

Agree. There is no way the King should be going. I get it's to celebrate their independence and nothing to do with Trump per se......but no. Can you imagine the embarrassing things trump is likely to say at a state dinner speech while the King sits next to him😯

Actually unless he really has lost his mind, I expect he'll fawn over them, about what great pals they all are - and it would be a US diplomatic problem if he did show himself up at a dinner, so that wouldn't be my reason for the King to stay away - but the way he insulted British soldiers in Afghanistan was unforgivable. That includes the king's own son! I wouldn't go to dinner with someone who'd insulted my family like that.

For instance I read that the ad that said "Kamala is for they/them, Trump is for you" is one that did the Democrats massive damage - well that's entirely self inflicted isn't it? And yet they seem to be doubling down on that.

Can you give me examples of them doubling down on that, please? And I mean more than one or two random people from a very liberal state?

Additionally, the polling is interesting (PRRI is non-political and non-partisan)

https://prri.org/spotlight/americans-views-on-transgender-rights-since-november-2024/

If Charles doesn't go, the Deranged One will probably bomb us.

Yeah but its Harry so KC probably doesn't mind...

Go away with your fake historian conspiracy theory bullshit

Can you sum up in your own words what you think those links say please?
I've looked at the first one and while it seems to a non partisan body, they have clearly been duped by the TRA narrative when they analyse the increasing opposition to what they call "gender-affirming care" like this: Much of this opposition might be explained by the network of think tanks, lawmakers, and fringe medical practitioners who have spread disinformation about the safety and efficacy of gender-affirming care.

There's a problem in the US with people taking sides, and that's exactly the problem with that link. But, for example, recent Finnish results, which are among the very few to have actually followed children treated with puberty blockers and cross sex hormones, find that mental health doesn't improve overall and often gets worse, when you follow everyone and not just those who keep in touch because they're happy with their lives.

And that's without mentioning the Cass report.

He has been unhinged for ages but nothing will put his supporters or conservatives off him. The same people who found Obama’s tan suit unpresidential are fine with the US president being a troll.

And the claim that he did not personally write this…it was still written on his personal account for which he is responsible.

I would not care about him being a demented troll if he contained that to within America’s borders. But as we see, he won’t.

Leavitt said this after Trump posted the video of depicting the Obama's as monkeys

Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt assured reporters that anything on Trump’s social media site is “straight from the horse’s mouth.”

More fuss about Michelle Obama's bare arms than Trump's dementia.

Exactly.

I remember the Republicans went mad when Obama wore a tan suit in a press conference, as if it wasn’t “serious” enough.
Now Trump turns up to receive bodies of dead service men and women in a propaganda baseball cap and it’s all fine and dandy.
The hypocrisy is stunning.

High, drunk or a bot. As if we wouldn’t notice 🤣

He'll be waking up soon. Unless he's been strangled overnight 🤞

I didn’t even know where to start with that post but you’ve answered it very well.

I mean these are the same people who lost it at people “mocking” Kirk’s death but have been radio silent on Trump posting he was glad that Former FBI director Robert Mueller was dead.

There were definitely people who voted trump or other because he is just one sex pest who you can see coming and swerve, whereas the other side were literally moving them wholesale into school changing rooms and prison cells etc where women and girls could not escape them.
Without that the womens' vote would have been split very differently. That is why the "Kamala is for They/Them. Trump is for You." was so effective.
There are many ways the Democrats gave up the election but that was definitely one of them, I believe by enough to have made the difference.
What that doesn't do is excuse the Republicans one iota.

Without that the womens' vote would have been split very differently.

White women’s votes.

Black and Latina women overwhelmingly rejected Trump.