AIBU to want cafes to be dog free after grandchild was bitten?

[OhSoTrue]

What to do? Took my 12 year old gc into a cafe for lunch today, and a dog
snapped her ankle as we walked by. It drew blood. No idea why it picked on her.
She did nothing beyond walking in the door.

The dog owner 'fled the scene' as it were. Made a hasty exit while he had the chance and everyone was looking at the injury.

Wouldn't it just be better if we kept dogs out of what really should be an exclusively human area?

The argument that "they are allowed here so suck it up" is wearing thin.
We are all very fed up of your dogs in human spaces. The vast majority of us would prefer a dog free space.

Yes, much bigger a number than the 80% who are happy.

Any cafe owner can make what decision they like.

People on this forum are stating that it's s a financial business decision. Statements like that need backing up with data or they are meaningless.

And, you do seem to think you know best. Your posts are literally I suspect, I think and I believe.

This is backwards. Your assumption that cafe owners are making a bad business decision just because they like dogs is YOUR gut feeling. No hard data is involved in the conclusion you've drawn. I presume cafe owners are working on slightly more data than you regarding their businesses.

Also 80% of customers is a larger proportion than 20% to disincentivise.

Businesses survive on margins. There will be a point where one less customer makes a business unprofitable. It matters not if 80%of your potential customers are happy if it's 81% that puts you into a profit.

44% of searches on OpenTable are from people looking specifically for dog friendly venues. Bills of people with dogs are 36% higher as they have a higher dwell time. More people own dogs than your 20% who are put off by them-so that 29% figure doesn’t really tip the scales as too much to lose

I haven't suggested that they are making a bad business decision.

It’s never going to be 81% that puts you into profit. You know nothing about running a business, do you?

The sources i can find for that data are mostly pretty biased. Pet insurers, kennel club, etc.

More than you, I think. There is a point at which one customer is the difference between being profitable and not profitable, wherever that point is.

Show me data. No, not that data.

Lies damned lies and statistics 🤣

Data is no good without quoting sources, if you're planning to provide any more.

The error here though is the assumption that a dogs presence is enough to put that 20% off entirely.

As this thread alone shows, even if people don't like dogs in cafés, many will still use the café because they like the coffee / it's convenient / the others are too far away. And it is the same for the general public. Humans are creatures of habit and convenience.

It will be a much smaller percentage for whom "dog-friendly" is an absolute excluder. In most cases, there will be other, larger incentives than that one disincentive.

😂

But you're the one who isn't providing data from ANY sources to back up your bizarre argument.

The argument that being dog-friendly is a good financial decision is based on the assumption that business owners tend to make decisions based on what's most profitable. The evidence is the success (or otherwise) of their business. It may well be the case that cafe owners are engaged in some sort of anti-profit conspiracy against dog-haters simply because they can't resist a wagging tail but I'm not sure why we should take that argument seriously, absent any hard data from you?

How is OpenTable biased in favour of dogs? They’re a restaurant booking platform.

By alone, I meant on his own, not because I worry about him destroying the house. He's very well trained actually...
Unlike the kid I saw out shopping recently tearing along the aisles crashing a basket trolley into everything... 🤔

Good…that’s you. I think we can ascertain from all of the responses on this thread that there are, indeed, people who aren’t neutral—and actively dislike the situation.

I can't produce data that doesn't exist. That's kind of my point?

And you believe that a completely neutral platform for any restaurant of any type in the country is registering 44%of is searches as looking for dog friendly?

Still waiting for the source of that because it isn't coming up on a search of OpenTable and dogs, in fact AI explicitly says the data is not available.

Oh well, with the lack of any data that anyone wants to believe from either side we’ll just have to accept the owners know what they are doing and aren’t sabotaging their businesses to wind up dog haters.

Righto, so this entire tangent about how cafe owners are only letting dogs in because they like them and it's not a business decision is null and void.

Not that it even matters because cafe owners can let dogs in, or not, for whatever reasons they want.

Yup. Everyone's assertions on this thread are only their own personal feelings and opinions. Normal for a forum.

The tables get cleared and cleaned in between customers don’t they? That would be pretty low down on my list of hygiene concerns.

If I were given a choice about dog friendly or non dog friendly, I’d choose the latter

that alone though isn’t often going to be my deal breaker. I imagine for dog owners who feel they need to take their pet for whatever reason, it is.