AIBU to want cafes to be dog free after grandchild was bitten?

[OhSoTrue]

What to do? Took my 12 year old gc into a cafe for lunch today, and a dog
snapped her ankle as we walked by. It drew blood. No idea why it picked on her.
She did nothing beyond walking in the door.

The dog owner 'fled the scene' as it were. Made a hasty exit while he had the chance and everyone was looking at the injury.

Wouldn't it just be better if we kept dogs out of what really should be an exclusively human area?

The argument that "they are allowed here so suck it up" is wearing thin.
We are all very fed up of your dogs in human spaces. The vast majority of us would prefer a dog free space.

That’s really bad. And that’s in open spaces. A lot of people shouldn’t be allowed to own dogs if they can’t control them.

Funnily enough this happened to us two days ago. Lovely pub, lovely walk. We went to have lunch at a pub in a smallish room with 5 tables. Three had dogs. The whimpering, barking and jumping were enough. Then two very large German shepherds came in and sat right next to me. Smelled like awful wet dog. So four dogs all doing this and the overpowering smell of wet dog. When I went to use the toilet I had to get the owners to move their dog so I could pull out my char and step over it.

We have dogs. I love dogs. But why it is more important for them to be there then for me to enjoy my lunch peacefully?

I’m from Canada and we don’t allow them in restaurants and in my opinion it’s better that way.

They shouldn’t be in places serving food. It’s unhygienic. End of.

Finally, we have an End Of! Discussion over.

😆 yep

I agree. My parents had a holiday home in SW France small town. Near Saintes, Bordeaux, La Rochelle. Never saw a dog in a cafe/restaurant/bar. My auntie lives in Paris with cats, must ask her same Q. She’s had dogs, Doberman and Alsatians.

Go Canada! 🇨🇦

Not a fan of dogs in cafes and indoor spaces.
Tried a dog friendly cafe in a garden centre once with our slightly reactive dog. Sat at the back out of the way. Our dog was a dream but between the barking and growling of other dogs we ate quickly and left.
My dog is much happier to sit outside pubs and cafes.
There is usually a dog friendly outdoor option so it's not really stopping people spending time with their pets.

Long way to go for coffee

Mine loves an indoor coffee shop, they’re all
different!

I live in that sort of area of France and know all those places quite well, but I also lived in Paris, and I honestly can't remember seeing a dog inside a cafe, bar, restaurant or shop. Maybe it's more something that's done by holiday makers. Even at the boulangeries, people tie their dog up outside.

I agree with you OP - I'm sick of dogs being in places they shouldn't be... I don't think they are cute and I don't want to eat with your big smelly dog staring at me - leave it at home.

I hope you're child is ok

Im French and dogs are welcome everywhere since the dawn of time. I used to go to restaurant in Paris in 1998 with my dog. Its very very common. I have never been refused entry because I had a dog, quite the opposite actually.

Because there aren't that many cafes that don't allow dogs and why should dogs take precedence over humans.

I like dogs. I don't want to own one as I don't fancy scooping the poop and that means I shouldn't be an owner. But I am getting a bit tired of the assumption that dogs should go everywhere. There is a pub near us that I shan't be frequenting again. Last time I was there a customer was letting their dog sit on the seat and feeding it tips from the table. I know the table will be wiped but will the staff wipe the seats? I don't want to sit where some dog has had it's dirty bare bottom

Why do people who hate dogs and don’t want to eat somewhere dogs might be go to dog friendly places, then complain there are dogs present?

Daughter? Or granddaughter?

I think cafes that allow dogs should publicise it widely. That way, people can choose with their feet. I wouldn't take my dog to a cafe unless I was able to sit outside with him. Not because he'd bite anyone, but he gets overexcited and would just whine and cry the entire time.

Why should they take precedence? Because the cafe owner has decided that, it’s their business and their decision.

Yes by law bakeries (and any store selling food) can't accept dogs, but dogs are always welcome in cafés, brasseries, and most restaurants, depending on how enclosed the kitchen is.

France is frequently voted as one of the most dog friendly countries in Europe. I frequently travel in France with my dog and I never struggled to find a place to stay, eat or drink.

This. There are people for whom ubiquitous dogs make life considerably harder.

I was having a coffee recently in a small quite crowded cafe and someone came in with a large and very friendly Labrador. The dog wagged his tail vigorously as he was led through the cafe, knocking plates and cups onto the floor as he went. The owner looked mortified.

I was bitten as a child by our family dog.
With zero history of aggressive, anxious or reactive behaviour. It was also unprovoked, I was moving past the dog and for whatever reason it bit, not snapped but full attack.

Any dog is capable, no matter how well trained, how placid a dog usually is. Any dog has the potential to bite for any reason at any time, they are animals not fluffy humans.
And I do like dogs, not afraid of them in general, I'll say hello if their owner permits.

Somewhere like a cafe or restaurant, where there's food, especially when some breeds are resource guarding in nature anyway, hundreds of other smells, other dogs, it's loud, lots of movement, perhaps children in their faces to say hello. A dogs sense of hearing and smell is so much stronger than ours, it's really not fair on them to take them to some of these places.

In what world does even a dog lover go with the attitude “ the kid had in coming”

how on earth does one think like this ?

There is an independent small dog friendly chain in my neck of the woods, they are partnered with Guide Dogs, they have a sign in their window saying Don’t Leave Your Best Friend at Home, they serve dog treats and puppacinos, and guess what, they are extremely busy and popular!

The tail of a labrador isn't at all at table level, must have been a flying labrador.