AIBU to want cafes to be dog free after grandchild was bitten?

[OhSoTrue]

What to do? Took my 12 year old gc into a cafe for lunch today, and a dog
snapped her ankle as we walked by. It drew blood. No idea why it picked on her.
She did nothing beyond walking in the door.

The dog owner 'fled the scene' as it were. Made a hasty exit while he had the chance and everyone was looking at the injury.

Wouldn't it just be better if we kept dogs out of what really should be an exclusively human area?

The argument that "they are allowed here so suck it up" is wearing thin.
We are all very fed up of your dogs in human spaces. The vast majority of us would prefer a dog free space.

YABU for tarring all dogs with the same brush.

As always the issue isn't the actual dog. It is the owner.

With the rivers of dog shite that flow through the streets these days, dogs and lazy dog owners, can feck right off.
Before the comments come of “well in my “naice” area there isn’t any dog mess”. I live in a nice area. It’s the nice peoples hybrid poodle/cavapoo/rat dogs that are making all the mess. Feck them all, honestly.

This is what I don’t get! I love John Lewis have shipped there for years at Pratts (Streatham, 70s), Peter Jones and other branches. I’d think twice about going into the haberdashery department to buy material which I often do, if I saw a dog there. I don’t want drool or hair on my material!

I think the laws around dogs in public places now need tightened, mostly due to the sheer number of them.
Shropshire passed a law last year, where all dogs must be on a lead and under control on the public highway, replacing the ‘under control on a public highway’.
Im hoping the rest of the country follow suit soon.
The amount of dog shit left on pavement is a concern, and I don’t believe it the ‘odd person giving the rest of the dog owners a bad name’.
Last week I was in a cafe, a couple had two dogs sat at a table for four, plonked a dog on each chair, waiter asked them to get the dogs off the furniture, and sat them at a table for two, turns out they’d jumped the queue for a table, the reason they gave?
Our dogs won’t wait in a queue or sit on the floor, they are just so active, if we don’t pick them up off the floor, they’ll just continuously bark.
Im sick of hearing this fuuuuur baby, part of the family, I love my dog just like my children bollocks.
Honestly if your dog fell in a river land was drowning, would you leave your toddler on the edge of a river bank and save it?

There was a parliamentary petition on stopping dogs going into cafes, it was open for six months and got just 450 votes!

So not a popular opinion.

I once paid for a steam train ride in Devon. Two people were in our allocated seats with four dogs. Two of which were on the seats. We could not have sat down even if we wanted to due the lack of legroom because of the other dogs. They suggested we went to other seats ! Not that they moved. I didn’t care as I didn’t want to sit on a seat recently vacated by their dog.
It is this sort of thing that gives dog owners a very bad name.

One local naice pub in my area has a notice on its website which allows well behaved dogs and not on furniture, they also do not allow children!

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That is disgusting and is an owner issue. I’d have complained.

People say that businesses lose business if they don’t allow dogs. But places should consider the money they are not making not just what they are. The amount of money lost due to allowing dogs will not be insignificant.

I did. I wrote to the Devon Railway steam company or whatever they were called. No response back.

But presumably less than allowing dogs in?

So many “not my Rover” owners on this thread…

no place for dogs in cafes. Not wanting them there isn’t irrational or stupid.

I used to do a lot of running on my own in country parks/ common walking areas. Now run less but I try and go where there are no people, which is actually not that easy.

I have been bitten on the bum by a dog, as the owner continued shouting "he won't bite" - I spoke to the owner after I was bitten, asked them to keep their dog on a lead in future, they apologised, then later ON THE SAME RUN as I was going back to my car (bitten about 2 miles away from my car) I saw them with the dog off lead again.
I have been pushed over by a HUGE dog off lead that jumped up on me (I'm 5 ft 7) and sprained my ankle/ abrasions
Nearly bitten at ankles multiple times so had to climb a barbed wire fence to get into a field to avoid being bitten before owner arrived.
Many other smaller instances so that now I shout ahead at dog walkers, my DH won't run with me 😂

Absolutely lost count of the times I have had to stop running, jumped up on and muddy, barked at, snarled at by dogs, the difference in owners is stark and honestly many are completely unaware of what their dog is communicating.

Worst of all was 2 women walking 2 Alsatians and another dog. We were quite far from other people. I stood still. The three dogs growling and in a "pack" formation, small steps towards me, staring, ears back, showing teeth, leaning forward.
The women said something along the lines of "they aren't going to harm you" one was trying to hold the harness of one of the dogs but her feet were slipping and she couldn't hold it, eventually after several minutes stand off, one of the women got a lead on one and managed to pull it away and the others followed.
I thought I was going to be ripped to shreds. It was a country park, I have hardly been to the same one since. I am sure they go home and tell themselves "no harm done" etc but I was furious.

if dogs were a pack of sweets and one had shit in it would you eat one?

one dog may be dangerous. One dog may misbehave. Perfectly reasonable to not want any in there

I repeat. Dogs are not the issue. Crappy owners are

So yes, I don't want to be trying to avoid dog bites in a cafe, only have a dog in a play park or a cafe if it has a muzzle on.

If its not the dog, its the owner, then there are lots of owners the problem, and as I cannot tell which owner has recall by looking at them, then I have to assume none of them do.

It really won’t be. Individual owners know their clientele and market best. They are there every day, doing accounts and talking to customers.

Owners are allowing dogs because they want them , it’s their business and it’s good for business.

Don’t like it, open your own and do battle with the competition.

There was hardly any floor space in a pub the other day because of dogs. World has lost the plot

It looks like a post from chatGPT or something similar. I've lived in various parts of France (city and countryside alike) for nearly 20 years. A lot of places don't outrightly ban dogs, but it's very rare to see anyone bring their dog in. I can't recall a single instance offhand. It's different on outside terraces.
By contrast I was in the UK for one day, and was seeing them everywhere - people were even bringing them into shops where it was indicated dogs won't allowed.

So ban them all

the good owners need to challenge the bad ones, stop them behaving that way

Should we apply the same blanket policy to people...some are exceptionally rude so should we ban all of them too?

That’s disgusting.

I understand why dogs might be allowed in a rural pub where people go for walks, there is usually enough space and to ban them would impact business.

But there is no need for small town centre cafes to allow big hairy waggy mutts right next to tables of food. Really puts me off eating there, and the sooner the tide turns on dog friendly places the better!

There are lots of blanket policies applied to people that only exist because of a few bad ones