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AIBU to ask you to help me make a list of unseen labour that you do?

149 replies

Oreoqueen87 · 01/04/2026 07:16

Background is there has been ongoing tension between DH and I about division of labour. We have agreed to a make a list of all household tasks so we can see who does what. I am the default parent to a newly 7 year old. I do all the childcare organising, all the emotional labour, anything that requires thought basically! . I also do all the cooking and food organisation. I also do more childcare.

Can I please ask for your help in thinking of all the unseen things I do? I do everything apart from vacuuming, most of the washing and home maintenance eg mowing lawn.

He expects a lot of emotional support for himself. He wants to talk through every little decision and it’s exhausting.

DH can sometimes be reasonable when presented with facts, so I want him to acknowledge all the work I do. I doubt it will change much, but it gives me a basis for better boundaries in the meantime.

Longterm I need to LTB. Our child is undergoing evaluation for suspected autism/adhd, and I need to make sure it’s completed and a we have agreed how to manage it before any split.

If nothing else I want to have the list to look at so I can remember not to cave.

OP posts:
Warmlight1 · 01/04/2026 07:26

Tidying. Takes me about a day a week if not more to keep on top of.

Hermanfromguesswho · 01/04/2026 07:27

I read something the other day that said if helps more if you list all the things you are mentally managing rather than list what you are physically doing. So if he is arranging the car service but you mentally remember when it’s due and remind him to book it, then remind him to take it etc it’s still you doing it mostly, not him.

HatAndScarf33 · 01/04/2026 07:30

Look up ‘Fair Play’ it breaks down tasks that most families need to do and include ‘invisible’ tasks like ‘magic maker’ eg the one who makes sure there is money under the pillow from the tooth fairy, or the one who moves the elves at night in the run up to Christmas. It also breaks them down into occasional and regular tasks.

LisaVanderpumpy · 01/04/2026 07:31

Mental loads things like what’s going on at school, dress up days etc

dentist visits
drs
vaccinations
parties
birthdays
xmas

just all the thinkng stuff

frenchfancy81 · 01/04/2026 07:36

Remembering and shopping for everything a household needs, birthday cards and presents, bathing children, anything to do with school admin, packed lunches, dusting, organising days out or get togethers, hosting, running errands, meal planning/prepping/cooking/clearing up multiple times a day, putting things away, stain removal, decluttering, keeping on top of keeping in touch with people and checking in on them, wiping sinks/sides/tables, cleaning bathrooms and toilets, sweeping and mopping, cleaning windows and mirrors, wiping skirting boards and under things, sorting toys and clothes, changing beds and doing the associated laundry, looking after pets if you have any...

SaturdayFive · 01/04/2026 07:41

Organising nights out, days out, Christmas/ birthday arrangements, holidays. They are quite enjoyable though, unlike cleaning the toilet etc.
What happens if a tap starts dripping, a flatpack needs assembing, the car starts making a weird noise?
How many hours do each of you spend working?
Maybe work out the time it takes for all the unseen jobs, not how many jobs there are.

Dozer · 01/04/2026 07:41

If you’ve (understandably) decided he’s unwilling to be a better parent and partner and are biding time perhaps it’s about making your day to day easier. Eg identify a few things to hand over entirely to him.

IME parenting aside the biggest are often cleaning, cooking, laundry.

Eg your H could do all sheets, towels or indeed all laundry.

I stopped consulting DH, who never shared cooking after many requests, on what to eat and usually just cook things me and the DC liked.

EllieQ · 01/04/2026 07:42

Food shopping - not just doing the shopping, but meal planning, writing the list, keeping track of what’s running low and buying more/ adding it to the shopping list.

Laundry - the whole process from sorting out a load, putting the wash on, drying it, putting it away, plus keeping track of what clothes need to be clean when such as school uniform.

School admin - special events, supporting learning (reading, times table practice, help with projects), childcare for school holidays (researching & booking holiday clubs, taking leave, making sure every day is covered)

Nodwyddaedafedd · 01/04/2026 07:48

Picking up random bits of paper.
Replacing loo roles and taking the middle to recycling
Unpacking school bags and repacking them
Checking school uniform in the holidays
Putting clothes away
Looking at and getting toiletries
Looking and planning days out picnics packing bags
Collecting and taking things to charity shop
Organising Easter egg hunt
Buying his mum stuff for Easter
Going through household bills and paying them
Clearing the constant clutter - things upstairs downstairs on the table
meal planning and prepping
Hanging towels up
Tidying kids bedroom - again
Checking and charging tablets

That's a list of what I did yesterday.
I have the same problem. He definitely thinks he does more than he does because he does more admin stuff. He just doesn't see 90% of the stuff above.
Rather than listing - food prep or clean bathroom I find that it's more effective if you list every little stage. Eg clean bathroom includes the top and back of the toilet to me. Clean bathroom to him implies bath and sink and toilet

Good luck. It's hard not to feel like skivvy.
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GetOffTheCounter · 01/04/2026 07:49
  • school uniform buying, washing, ironing and getting ready for each day
  • knowing when PE kit is required
  • dentist bookings, allergy clinic bookings, physical therapy bookings, GP appointments
  • making sure toiletries are stocked in all showers and bathrooms
  • ensuring DCs wash daily and clean teeth twice a day
  • pay for bus fares (monthly) and school lunches
  • organising play dates, meetups with friends. Main organiser for DH and my social life also
  • organise all holidays, day trips and enrichment activities such as theatre
  • organise swimming lessons and pays for them (Dh takes them though)
  • weekly meal planning and shopping
  • liaise with teachers about both DCs but specifically DS1 who has SEN
  • liaise with exam officers and SENCO about exam access arrangements for DS1
  • keep abreast of latest issues and development in autism, adhd and tourettes and tells DH what I have been reaidng and discovering
  • purchases all easter eggs, gifts, christmas present
  • organises timetable and payment for cleaner, gardener, guy who washes the windows and recycling collection

Ad that's on top of the general stuff like sorting out the house.

atamlin · 01/04/2026 07:49

Chat GPT would be good for this.

PermanentTemporary · 01/04/2026 07:51

Right now I hardly do anything but when ds was little it was a whole different story. And breaking it down to tiny tasks is like the current taskification of medicine and undersells what is being done.

So, for example, there is childproofing the house - that’s just a few one off jobs like putting covers on the plugs, isn’t it? No it isn’t. I had an initial idea about child development based on a lifetime of wanting children and reading about them. Then you assess your own child’s development literally every day - what are they managing to do that is different, are they saying different sounds or words, suddenly they seem to be able to put a spoon in their mouth or they’re furniture walking more often, or when they’re older you notice them climbing up the monkey bars all of a sudden… Then based on previous rounds of issues you think, hmm I think I’ll put the satellite box on a high shelf before he starts grabbing it. The actual putting of the satellite box on a high shelf takes 5 mins (clearing the shelf, working out where to put the stuff on it, moving the electrics, putting the box up there) but it’s based on hours and days of constant loving observation of and intimate knowledge of your child, on a background of reading and thinking.

I was in the library reading about secondary schools for ds in my area when he was 6 weeks old. That was a bit mad… but I did have lots of conversations with various other parents about the primary schools, over months, and when I couldn’t find out much about the local school I volunteered on the governing body for a couple of years. That all allowed me to make school choices for ds with confidence. Completing the school choice form actually Dh did and that probably took 30 minutes or so.

Then there’s budgeting… that really was a properly shared load. We were stony broke for a few years so things like looking ahead to think what activities for ds were worth the financial pain and how to meet childcare costs and which bills to delay paying and writing extremely careful shopping lists - I would say a good couple of hours a week, each, minimum. Plus of course food shopping takes longer because you’re comparing prices all the time, going to the market for cheaper fruit etc.

Then there’s networking. That sounds like I was a media executive or something. But I am a social person plus ds is an only so we needed friends. I spent a LOT of time on this - obviously going to groups and volunteering and seeing people, but also doing things like keeping notes of people’s names and children’s names (I am terrible at remembering anyone’s name so used to write them down after events with anything they’d told me about themselves, like allergies and any current life issues they were dealing with so I’d remember to ask about them) and offering to have kids over or take them out, and then actually participating at whatever level was needed to make the afternoon successful. And, if I’m honest, keeping an eye on which kids I thought brought out the best in ds so that I’d actually want to promote the friendship and spend time with the parents.

Dh got more and more ill over the years and I got less and less able to offer to have other kids over. My friends helped out so much but I still tried to contribute, like I volunteered with others to set up a youth group and helped run it for 3 years.

Do you see how writing a list of tasks risks minimising what you’re actually doing? Think about how you do this.

MotherOfCrocodiles · 01/04/2026 07:59

Almost every item in our house was bought by me (as in, I decided we needed it, chose which one and ordered it), and I know where things are. Have we got string/ a tin opener/ swimming towels? Have the kids got clothes and shoes that fit and a drawer to keep them in that fits in their room….? That was me.

cooldarkroom · 01/04/2026 08:05

Well it starts as you get out of bed. Open windows, open/make bed, collect various stuff off the floor, make it to bathroom, open windows, tidy sink, towels etc, pass down thd corridor, Bedrooms 2 & 3 same as 1. Let dog out, give dog pills, kettle on, make tea, check for important messages, laundry out…
(Note still haven't showered or eaten….)

DrinkFeckArseBrick · 01/04/2026 08:20

Make sure you break it down properly as 'organise child's birthday party' sounds like one thing but it's actually

  • research venues and costs
  • negotiate with child on numbers and friends invited
  • organise invites, chase responses, check dietary requirements
  • book venue and pay
  • set up WhatsApp group to give everyone details and reminders
  • organise patty bags and cake (or make cake)
  • keep a list of potential things child likes, buy and wrap presents, buy card
  • thank everyone for presents

Things that I think can get missed are

  • staying on top of child's friends birthdays, buying presents etc
  • organising playdates
  • keeping on top of foot measurements and buying shoes, making sure they have clothes suitable for the season that fit
  • haircuts
  • dentists
  • researching clubs and activities, paying for them, organising uniform, lift shares, equipment, invoices, taking them
  • planning for and remembering all the special days school have - red nose day, World book day, Victorian day, lots of these need costumes, cash etc
Saisong · 01/04/2026 08:35

Lots of good ideas here. I'll add

Sorting recycling into various piles and making sure they get delivered to the correct bins/receptacles/shops.

Putting the correct bins out on the correct day (sub job of emptying all the bins around the house beforehand)

Washing out the bins (especially food waste) so they don't get stinky. Add making sure we always have enough caddy liners.

Sweeping the front doorstep and patio

Gardening - sooo many jobs here

Wiping down the fridge-freezer - ours seems to accumulate fingerprints and crumbs in the grooves daily.

Cleaning window frames of spider debris and grime. Along with washing windows of course.

As I move around the house my mind is constantly full of 'chatter' as I spot jobs that need doing, pick things up and move them back to the correct place, mentally note when things need replenishing. The mental burden is a constant level of stress.

hahabahbag · 01/04/2026 08:44

My ex apologised to me for not realising what I did about 6 months after moving out (bare in mind dc were adults and because he only lived 10 minutes away they didn’t stay with him) he realised that running a house took effort, remembering things was a chore etc etc his mum texted me on her birthday and said he’d forgotten and she knew that’s because I always did birthdays. Sometimes men need to have it explained to them

quitefranklyabsurd · 01/04/2026 08:49

Birthday cards for family
presents for school friends/parties
organising people when things break
booking clubs
holiday activities
olay dates
cleaning
washing
getting rid of out grown clothes
buying new clothes
making sure there’s enough clean school uniform
homework
vet appointments
school concerts/assemblies

crackofdoom · 01/04/2026 08:56

Perhaps keep a notebook at hand for a few days and write down everything as it occurs to you? Which is a job in itself, I appreciate.
Like Linda's ledger- have you watched "The Change?"

HennyMcSoon · 01/04/2026 08:57

This is the fair play card deck and I think the physical card holding helps you and your partner to realise how much you have got in your hands.

Bemusedandconnfused · 01/04/2026 08:59

Watch The Change on channel 4!

Hadenough32 · 01/04/2026 08:59

Cleaning appliances. microwave,emptying toaster crumbs, cleaning oven, cleaning washing machine drawers and doors, emptying filters on tumble dryer, cleaning dishwasher filter and refilling salt and rinse aid etc

Tonissister · 01/04/2026 09:11

DS2 has AuDHD. I had to explain to Dh that our long long conversations, helping him to overcome self-loathing and depression and isolation and eating issues, helping him to learn how to interact socially, read situations, apply for jobs, housing etc - that was WORK. That was not me lounging on the bed wasting time with DS. He got it, and understood that if it was one of those nights, it was his job to clean up after dinner and run the hoover around.

Tbh, I do very little of the mental load now. I did a lot of quiet quitting when DC were small because I was so exhausted. I've said this before on MN, but I think DH's eyes were opened when he asked if I wanted to go to the cinema (he emailed me, rather than walking down one flight of stairs from his home office, to where I was WFH.) I emailed back yes and he replied, 'Great. Can you just book the tickets and a babysitter?' I said, 'No. You asked me on a date. You 'just' book the tickets and a babysitter.'

After he'd negotiated the endless faff of online cinema ticket booking - picking seats and times and saying no to add on popcorn deals and filling in his address and DOB and copying the code to give the machine to access the printed tickets when we got there etc, I found him on the phone to the fourth person from the babysitting group after three had been busy, promising he'd sit for them in return. I said, 'Now do you understand why I get tetchy when you say 'could you just?' thinking it will take 5 mins?' and he got it...after asking if I'd be doing the babysitting he agreed to do, and I refused. Because that too is part of the invisible load he took for granted.

LemograssLollipop · 01/04/2026 09:12

Trimming kids nails

Half jobs eg will take bins out but not replace the bin liner or bring washing in and leave peg basket outside.

LemograssLollipop · 01/04/2026 09:17

cooldarkroom · 01/04/2026 08:05

Well it starts as you get out of bed. Open windows, open/make bed, collect various stuff off the floor, make it to bathroom, open windows, tidy sink, towels etc, pass down thd corridor, Bedrooms 2 & 3 same as 1. Let dog out, give dog pills, kettle on, make tea, check for important messages, laundry out…
(Note still haven't showered or eaten….)

Absolutely this! Even before you can get in the bathroom it's turning off lamps, opening curtains, picking up dropped towels.

And today being April Fools I walked into all the funny things which just cause a mess - but I'm trying not to be agrinch and see the funny side 🙄