Could someone please help me understand dhs mental health issues?

[Swellarella]

Please could anyone help me? Obviously we are going to get proper advice as soon as he can speak to a psychiatrist but we have no idea when that will be .

He is a lovely man. Genuinely kind loving protective sweet funny generous hardworking loyal.
He has major childhood trauma and adhd. He had a breakdown 3 years ago was given 4 months off work. Since then he has been on 150mg of serttaline and he wants to come off so has been on 100mg since last august. He has weekly trauma focused therapy.
Yesterday followibg a trauma trigger he came home kind of white and I was expecting we would get on with jobs cooking then going out to do some nice bits in town. He was monosyllabic I asked what was wrong and he just seemed to morph didn't look like himself and started speaking in what seemed like some kind of wicked wirch / Yoda voice and he started saying terrible things - he didn't seem like himself and I was like oh my god go and rest you don't seem well and I meant this very genuinely I was concerned but he kept raising his voice in this weird way. Hard to describe but I was really scared as it was freaking me out. I was like ok you seem ill I'm going out please rest and the last thing I remember him saying was 'swellas got an ill partner poor swella she's got an ill partner' in this creepy witchy voice.
I left the house for 2 hours cried my eyes out in the supermarket carpark spoke to Samaritans and when I got home he was asleep. I woke him up and asked if he was ok and said if he did the whole devil voice again to me he would have to go to a hotel. Ar which point the devil voice started up again and I was like that's it enough you are terrifying me you need to go. So he drove off. He came back and hour later crying and saying sorry I said if you do that again you go, you are frightening me.
He started a tiny bit I was like that's enough and he stopped. We had people coming over he then cleaned and prepped with me and then was quiet at dinner but not noticeably odd or out of sorts. This morning we have talked I was like what the hell? And he said he has no memory of speaking like that and behaving like that and I asked it it was involuntary to talk like that and he said yes he has no recollection and doesn't know what he was saying. He seems to have some control as when it was the option of the hotel he stopped and he was fine in front of friends.

Is this mental illness like psychosis I've got no idea?
Or is this deliverable behaviour desisnrd to control?

I have no idea how to help and feel I'm at my limit.

Christ me too

Hilarious, clearly you've got no actual experience. Psychosis is not just bad depression or feeling "out of sorts". The person is fully capable of doing things they never would if able to see reality.
And how rare exactly do you think psychosis is?

Oooh I knew you were going to be lazy and make me provide the facts so here are some numbers to help stop your bigotry spreading

Around 3% of the population experience a full psychotic episode. Among people who experience a full psychotic episode:

• Only about ~5–10% will ever commit any act of violence toward others in their lifetime
• And serious violence (causing significant injury) is much rarer than that

👉 So if ~3% of people have a psychotic episode:

• ~0.15%–0.3% of the total population
• → roughly 1 in 300 to 1 in 600 people might ever become violent in that context

my experience is irrelevant and outing and not your business. What’s yours??

So you think 5-10% is "incredibly rare"..
My experience is with dealing with a relative and through my career.
I can hazard a guess at your experience from how defensive you are. Not everyone presents in a harmless way just because that was your experience, and it would be dangerous to assume everyone will get treatment in time or effectively enough to remain in that relatively harmless 90%.

yes out of the 3% of people having a full psychotic episode - which there’s no evidence is actually happening here, it’s just something OP asked for info on, and the only person who will know for sure is a psychiatrist.
so yes, it’s rare. I never said it didn’t happen because it does.
i love how you think my advocacy means I am a sufferer. I’d have gone down the loved ones route personally. But both would be wrong 😂😂

@Swellarella , it is baffling that so many posters have responded with such harshness. I don't think you deserve that at all. You were blindsided by a very confusing and distressing situation and naturally it takes time to orientate yourself to that and work out how to respond.

Also, you were the one in his presence and at some level you will have been making calculations about his safety and his needs. Posters here who have expressed such certainty about what you should have done have much less information to go on than you did.

You have done nothing wrong. You are in a very distressing situation and are coping as best you can.

I'm sorry this is happening to both of you. I'm not a mental health professional, but I am a 'service user' who has had extensive childhood trauma and therapy. It sounds a lot like a dissociative disorder (I have similar presentation when triggered or under immense stress - which only became apparent after a massive breakdown 6 years ago). If he was aware that his behaviour wasn't based in reality, then it's less likely to be psychosis.

It's a 111 mental health call, not 999.

Maybe find something you're a bit more educated on to advocate for.
Trying to twist a 5-10% statistic which you've found somewhere on google or made up (that is actually far lower than the vast majority of data) into being a 1 in 600 statistic just looks like burying your head in the sand.
General research is 10-13% with up to 26%. However even if we looked at the 5% you came out that would be a 1 in 20 risk of violence.
Pretending violence to others isnt a risk to be alert to is dangerous misinformation, not advocacy.

Is that of the 3% of the whole population who experience full on psychotic episodes? Or just people with mental health issues?
where the hell have you got this from?

here’s an actual peer review.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC12662831

it talks about how they defined violence. Did it occur to you to discuss that when you hit me with silly stats?

Thats an american study on first episodes of psychosis.
Im going to stop engaging with you now, the actual statistics are there for others to see which is hopefully enough to counteract you downplaying the risk.

The man needs and wants help.

childhood traumas effect us in different ways, its not something you can switch off, it switches us off if you see what i mean.
Mine is so bad i dont have feelings like other people.

Is your source ChatGPT?

Hope you're ok OP.
Don't beat yourself up, you were blindsided and panicked, and it's understandable you were emotional too.
I'm hopeful you'll soon have support & hope hubby will be ok ❤️
For future reference, as others have said, 111 option 2 always a good port of call unless you fear for his or your own safety in which case 999.

Sorry you've had this frightening experience, OP.

Why were you wondering if this is "deliberate behaviour designed to control"? Has he given you any reason to suspect this generally?

You said he had told you he had no recollection of speaking like that
Later you say he says he can control it sometimes.
So did he remember??