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What’s wrong with me, hospital clueless

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elm26 · 26/03/2026 15:24

Yesterday at 1pm, I put my 6 month old on the rug with his toys and went for a wee.

As I was walking back I had a sudden severe pain in my right side radiating into my lower back and up to my shoulder, I was in agony.

I called DH who was luckily only on a job 15 mins away, he came straight home and took one look at me and called ambulance, I was shouting out in pain they gave me gas and air and morphine.

I had an emergency CT when dye last night and also have a catheter as lost the ability to wee. Nothing showed on CT, they got me settled on morphine and today I’ve had a transvaginal scan which shows ovaries and womb look normal.

Gynae can’t find a reason so they’ve stopped painkillers and just giving me paracetamol but somethings wrong I feel like somebody’s twisting my insides. The gynae consultant was horrible and said the surgical team will come see me if they think it’s worth it?? So I’m waiting for that if they come.

I’m in so much pain and genuinely scared they’ll send me home not knowing what is wrong with me.

Has anyone has anything similar?

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MooseJuice · 28/03/2026 18:54

Grok says this:-

Most likely possibilities (not exhaustive)
Renal colic / small or passed ureteric kidney stone (very common match)
Classic for sudden, excruciating flank pain radiating to back (sometimes groin/shoulder if severe irritation). Pain can feel colicky/"twisting." Acute pain or morphine itself often causes temporary urinary retention. Standard gold-standard imaging is non-contrast CT KUB—your "CT with dye" (IV contrast) is excellent for other abdominal issues but can miss small/non-obstructing stones or ones that have recently passed. No fever fits (stones aren't always infected). Many cases resolve spontaneously once the stone passes.
Next steps to ask for: Urine dip/microscopy (for blood/crystals—even if dipstick was done), renal ultrasound (quick, no radiation, detects hydronephrosis), or repeat non-contrast CT if pain persists.
Biliary colic or gallbladder issue (e.g., stone/sludge or acalculous cholecystitis)
Right-sided pain radiating to back and right shoulder tip is textbook (Kehr's sign from gallbladder irritation of the diaphragm). Can be triggered suddenly and feel twisting/colicky. Your post-evening-meal diarrhoea could hint at fat-related biliary dysfunction. Contrast CT can miss early/mild cases without obvious stones or wall thickening.
Next steps: Dedicated right upper quadrant ultrasound (far better than CT for gallstones/sludge—cheap, quick). Liver function bloods if not already repeated.
Ruptured ovarian cyst or endometriosis flare/deep infiltrating endo (especially with your laparoscopy history)
Sudden severe pain + peritoneal irritation (shoulder tip) fits a cyst rupture; fluid/blood can irritate the diaphragm but often absorbs quickly, leaving normal TVUS/CT. Bladder or deep pelvic endo can cause urinary retention and "twisting" pelvic pain flares (even postpartum). Gynae scans miss deep endo without laparoscopy.
Next steps: Urology/gynae review for cystoscopy or consider diagnostic laparoscopy if history suggests endo. Repeat pelvic US in a few days.
Less common but worth ruling out (given normal CT)
Early/mild appendicitis or other bowel issue (CT is good but can miss very early cases).
Postpartum ovarian vein thrombosis (right-sided common; contrast CT usually shows it but can be subtle).
Rare things like renal infarction or referred musculoskeletal/spinal (e.g., postpartum-related strain + pain-induced retention), though shoulder radiation makes these less likely.
Urinary retention was likely from the extreme pain/spasm or morphine—good it's resolving with bladder scan confirmation. No temperature/low HR is reassuring against major infection/sepsis.The gynae consultant's attitude sounds unhelpful—advocate for yourself. Ask the surgical team (when they come): "What exactly was ruled out? Why not renal/gallbladder ultrasound? Can I have urology input or non-contrast imaging?" Mention your endo history and post-meal symptoms. Request better analgesia (you were on oramorph/codeine before) and a clear follow-up plan if discharged (e.g., outpatient urology/gastro, urine tests, pain management).Plenty of people on forums (including that Mumsnet thread) report similar "mysterious" episodes that turned out to be a stone that passed, a cyst that ruptured, or biliary issues—often after pushing for the right scan. You're not alone, and it's valid to be scared with a 6-month-old and toddler at home.Please update the thread or speak to your team immediately if pain worsens, you get fever/vomiting/new symptoms, or they try to discharge prematurely. Get a friend/family to help advocate if needed. This isn't something to "wait and see" at home without answers. Take care—hoping they get to the bottom of it quickly so you can get home to your little ones.

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 28/03/2026 18:55

@MooseJuice before you wrote all that you should have RTFT.
OP has been discharged.

ThamesLondon · 28/03/2026 18:59

elm26 · 26/03/2026 15:24

Yesterday at 1pm, I put my 6 month old on the rug with his toys and went for a wee.

As I was walking back I had a sudden severe pain in my right side radiating into my lower back and up to my shoulder, I was in agony.

I called DH who was luckily only on a job 15 mins away, he came straight home and took one look at me and called ambulance, I was shouting out in pain they gave me gas and air and morphine.

I had an emergency CT when dye last night and also have a catheter as lost the ability to wee. Nothing showed on CT, they got me settled on morphine and today I’ve had a transvaginal scan which shows ovaries and womb look normal.

Gynae can’t find a reason so they’ve stopped painkillers and just giving me paracetamol but somethings wrong I feel like somebody’s twisting my insides. The gynae consultant was horrible and said the surgical team will come see me if they think it’s worth it?? So I’m waiting for that if they come.

I’m in so much pain and genuinely scared they’ll send me home not knowing what is wrong with me.

Has anyone has anything similar?

I guess you have a kindney stone. That's very painful.

VimtoDemon · 28/03/2026 19:03

BristolHelp · 28/03/2026 12:45

Don't leave. Get a family member to speak to the ward manager and invoke Martha's rule. There should be a phone number for them to call and an independent review has to be done.

I have never heard of this but I really hope she did it!

Rhibledd · 28/03/2026 19:06

I get pain like this with endometriosis depending on the time of the month. It won’t show on a TV scan unless something like your ovaries are stuck to something. My endometriosis only started after I had my baby. Def refuse to leave until they’ve found out the pain. Hope you’re ok

Tinytimmy123 · 28/03/2026 19:14

Makes me wonder if it was a man pain the surgical team would be dealing with this differently.

StarryPeck · 28/03/2026 19:14

This could be caude equine syndrome. It is extremely rare but is caused by compression of nerves from your back that lead to your bladder and bowel. It is usually associated with back problems and herniated disks. It is regarded as serious and NHS staff need to perform tests immediately to diagnose this and prevent permanent nerve damage.

TheWindyWildebeest · 28/03/2026 19:15

I had something similar a few years ago and was just trapped. But make no mistake, trapped wind can be agony and classically causes referred pain in shoulder. I am a nurse, not that that makes me an expert, but bought “Colpermin” which is an over the counter medication and after taking a few I passed a LOTTA wind! Pain resolved. When I worked on wards we always used to give patients with bowel colic a bit of peppermint water mixed with a couple of soluble Paracetamol and some hot water. Worked a dream….would hear them trumping away after an hour or so! Anyway, may not be that….may be gynae in nature, but worth a try. Good luck!

MyObservations · 28/03/2026 19:16

Tinytimmy123 · 28/03/2026 19:14

Makes me wonder if it was a man pain the surgical team would be dealing with this differently.

What complete rubbish!

Greybeardy · 28/03/2026 19:19

Tinytimmy123 · 28/03/2026 19:14

Makes me wonder if it was a man pain the surgical team would be dealing with this differently.

probably not if that man had normal bloods and a normal CT...like the OP has said she does.

maxandru · 28/03/2026 19:20

Sounds like pain I had with slipped disc ?!?

Expatmum2023 · 28/03/2026 19:25

I'm not a medical professional. Just guessing. Torsion of ovary? Advocate for yourself and if any docs in the family or friends who are docs get them involved to advocate for you. You don't want to be the statistic where stuff gets worse because of staying quiet. Talk to the nurses too.. good luck - sounds awful.

Tdee · 28/03/2026 19:33

Sounds like nerve damage from the spine- maybe a disc. Ask for MRI xx

Haribomum7 · 28/03/2026 19:34

Have they checked for kidney stones?

Nosejobnelly · 28/03/2026 19:37

TheWindyWildebeest · 28/03/2026 19:15

I had something similar a few years ago and was just trapped. But make no mistake, trapped wind can be agony and classically causes referred pain in shoulder. I am a nurse, not that that makes me an expert, but bought “Colpermin” which is an over the counter medication and after taking a few I passed a LOTTA wind! Pain resolved. When I worked on wards we always used to give patients with bowel colic a bit of peppermint water mixed with a couple of soluble Paracetamol and some hot water. Worked a dream….would hear them trumping away after an hour or so! Anyway, may not be that….may be gynae in nature, but worth a try. Good luck!

After I had my first baby by emergency c/s I was in so much pain the next day I thought something had gone wrong with the procedure. The lovely midwife came over and gave me a cup of mint tea - that solved the issue!! Trapped wind can be excruciating- I’ve even passed out from it - but I doubt it’s what the OP has.

Pebbles16 · 28/03/2026 19:44

I am so angry on your behalf.
I have have had 30 years of learning to advocate for myself ie "kicking up a fuss". It is on my notes "educated patient" ie do not fuck with me. But it is so difficult when noone can get the symptoms to match a distinct diagnosis.
Sending love @elm26

Deered · 28/03/2026 19:45

Trust me had alot of dealings IV paracetamol the best. Trust them

HanMat1108 · 28/03/2026 19:48

It sounds like it could be a torsion of the ovary. This is where a cyst on the ovary can cause it to twist. My daughter had it. She was in absolute agony and they were thinking it was her kidneys. When she finally got a scan they discovered the twisted ovary. They operated a week or so later but the ovary was already dead. Unfortunately she already lost her other ovary nine years earlier at 23 to ovarian cancer. She is now going through menopause at 32! It is quite rare apparently.

itwasyourshowallalong · 28/03/2026 19:48

https://www.england.nhs.uk/patient-safety/marthas-rule/

PLEASE ASK FOR A REVIEW UNDER MARTHA’S RULE

sorry for the caps, but if you’re on oramorph and they want to discharge you on paracetamol then that’s potentially a recipe for disaster

I’m so sorry you’re going through this, it sounds shit 😢

NHS England » Martha’s Rule

NHS England » Martha’s Rule

https://www.england.nhs.uk/patient-safety/marthas-rule

OpalSpirit · 28/03/2026 19:51

MyObservations · 28/03/2026 19:16

What complete rubbish!

Not rubbish, well documented that women’s pain is treated differently to men’s.
Women are expected to endure procedures like womb biopsies without pain relief.

Especially if any possible to write it off as gynae/menopause/ hormones etc.
Even worse for women of colour, more likely to die in childbirth and have pain totally dismissed.

shine18 · 28/03/2026 19:59

Is it a disc in your back. Ask for mri.

WorthyPearlTiger · 28/03/2026 20:00

Appendicitis, liver, kidneys
Not being able to wee is quite serious
Check meds, alcohol consumption, recre drugs, dieting pills (if u take them).
They cause inflammation that causes acute pain like that, and it's nearly always lifestyle-related. It's not anything to do with the womb or an ectopic pregnancy, as others have suggested, as you've seen Gynae (where they always go to first). Has the doctor asked you about any of this, as in your lifestyle? or diet?

likelysuspect · 28/03/2026 20:05

Jesus why do people keep giving completely irrelevant advice, on this thread and another one Im on

Marthas rule does not apply here. OP is not deteriorating, her readings are fine.

Annyh · 28/03/2026 20:06

Bladder stones possibly?