Racism in uk

[Charltonstrek]

Im finding the level of racism here in the UK to be very unsettling and it seems to be getting worse and im finding it depressing as I have a Muslim partner and I wonder if there is a future here for him. Ive mostly witnessed this on social media with some very derogatory comments anybody else or am I too sensitive

There seems to be a right wing push to frame Islamophobia as a justifiable response to anti semiticism. I wonder how far those buying into this think the right wing racists will support Jews once they're done with Muslims.
Scary times for anyone who is part of a minority faith or ethnicity.

Don't try to be sensible on Mumsnet 😂

Yes I absolutely think racism is getting worse however I say that from the privileged position of being white. Racism on social media, in particular local area Facebook groups is abhorrent and rife. I first noticed the rise following all the Brexit stuff. Other white people would make racist comments in my presence, emboldened by rhetoric from politicians and in the media I assume. It’s like they saw a white face and just assumed I would agree with them when it seemed to be less overt before.

" surely it would refer to Islamophobia (which isn’t actually racism as Muslims are not a race or ethnic group. So it’s distinct)"

Discrimination against Muslims comes under racism, regardless of whether the Muslim is of a particular 'race'.

And this is part of the problem isnt it?
There should be no language barrier.
You should be able to speak the language of the country you've decided you want to live in.

"You should be able to speak the language of the country you've decided you want to live in."

Yes, but you don't necessarily have to be fluent when you first arrive.

So it’s fine to be racist to Muslims but not Jews?

Make it make sense.

Is there a better country to go to?

Well done for derailing the thread within a handful of posts.

Research shows Muslims tend to be very unlikely to report racism and Islamophobic whereas the CST actively encourages Jewish people to report every incident.

Muslims tend not to report hate crime.

Yes, of course there's a massive issue with racism and bigotry and hatefulness. It was always thus.

Yet you’re on another thread about anti-Semitism accusing anyone talking about Islamophobia of derailing that thread.

I think because of the likes of Farage and Trump racists feel they can spew their hatred freely and have found other empty headed idiots who agree with them, it’s always been there though, it never went away.

In these posts there is a high level of investment in Muslims being worse off even when the stats don’t bear this out. In fact, the stats are used as evidence that Jewish people are massive complainers rather than real victims of racism. Horrible!

I think people should be checked for fluency within a year and if they’re not their visas should be withdrawn. We should also ban the burqua and the hijab. I saw a preschool child with a hijab on yesterday and it was such a grim sight.

These moves would do lots to encourage proper integration here. I think the UK is far less racist that when I grew up in the 1980s. Just thinking of the words used to describe immigrants then is horrifying.

The sad fact that is that the normalisation of anti-Muslim rhetoric means that many Muslims do
not report hate crime because they do not trust the authorities to act on it.

Just as many Muslims don’t post on MN because of the frequent pile ons against Islam and Muslims.

I would welcome a body like the CST to help Muslims report crime.

Asians constitute the highest proportion of racially aggravated offences (33%). Calling people ‘p’ has become normal for many.

These moves would do lots to encourage proper integration here. I think the UK is far less racist that when I grew up in the 1980s.

But well done, you’re doing a good job trying to reverse that trend

The only grim here is your attitude.

"I think people should be checked for fluency within a year and if they’re not their visas should be withdrawn."

A year? Can you learn a language to fluency in a year?

As for banning the nikab, there are clear human rights issues with such a ban and they don't work anyway. I live in a place where they are banned and I still see them from some time. It's also likely that some of the women who wear them just retreat from the public space.

You think regressive, misogynistic dress for infants is a good thing? Nice!

If you are not capable of learning a new language in a year while living in a country full time how are you capable of working?

Was the headscarf also regressive and misogynistic when the Queen wore it?

Will you ban nuns from wearing it?

Some immigrants are doing the jobs that Brits are too lazy to do.

Depends where you work and some people work in the home.

The queen wore a headscarf as a means of keeping her hair in place. The queens decision to wear a headscarf didn’t come for the fear of men leering at her hair.

I think racism has always been very prevalent in the UK. It may have appeared to reduce since the 90’s, but I just think it been hidden. Issues with uncontrolled migration has allowed voicing racist opinions to become more acceptable. People now have a so called excuse and that’s partly the reason I think it’s appearing to worsen.