If reform won the next election I couldn't bear living here but thanks to farage there's nowhere to go

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/14/reform-uk-government-replace-top-civil-servants-people-aligned-policies

Denigrating awful trumpy nonsense

Maybe Ireland would take me in

Well all the people on mumsnet who moan about Brexit stopping them moving abroad don't seem to realise that. So Europe obsessed

I mean by it’s still perfectly possible to move to Europe if you meet their immigration criteria, it’s not like we’ve been banned! So just work out what the immigration criteria for that country is and work to scribe that. Or do people just think they’re entitled to do what they like?

It's a Reform/Restore/Tory coalition or - The Greens

Lead by a man who thinks women can have a penis
We should get rid of our nuclear deterrent and wants

TOTAL OPEN BORDERS AND NO DRUG LAWS

It's A Reform win or frankly it's almost civil war. We are in way more trouble than you think.

An "almost civil war" between whom?

Go watch this

I was asking for your views, not someone else's!

My view - is watch this. It's not a 2 line response.

Getting rid of a nuclear deterrent seems unwise. Look to Ukraine. Green policy seems generally risky.

I have watched that video before so am familiar with Betz's views.

Exactly. You may disagree with Reform policies but they have a lot more thought and reason to them than The Green's, and that's who is most likely to be leading the opposition after the next election (which I predict to be early 2027).

Don't discount the firmly supported idea we will be in a shooting war with Russia by 2027 as well.

They ought to be the same, but you know that currently they are not.

It’s nice to say no one should have weapons but the reality is many do and not everyone will feel the same about using them against us.

The Greens concern on a defence level as it could have real outcomes that are very bad, the other stuff drugs and policies re women are not great either.

I am actually worried about their popularity, it's insane the support they have, all on the back of people arriving on boats. Just shows you how unkind and well, stupid too many people are in the UK to blame all the ills of this country on boat arrivals.

I am dreading them being in power and I just hope come general election day people come to their senses.

I don't think the Greens will be leading the opposition. Not according to current poll of polls.

Why do you think there will be a GE early next year? What will cause that to happen?

Better stats - https://electionmaps.uk/nowcast

And I think Starmer will resign in May, the Labour Party will take 3 months or so to elect Streeting with Rayner coming second and Streeting will be forced to call an election in late 26 more likely 27 in order to show his government has the confidence of the country. The green poll numbers right now will keep going up, though I think hey have maybe a 25% ceiling.

Streeting won't get the backing of the country and a likely unofficial back room but well planned "don't put up a candidate here and we won't put one up there" between Restore, Reform and the Tories will lead to a very clear right wing win with Reform as the major partner and Farage as Prime Minister.

This will be against a background of serious conflict, I think possibly against both Russia and China, which we will be crushed in though not invaded and the economic fallout of the entire thing will decimate the planet for 20 years.

We live in very interesting times. We are at the top of the rollercoaster just starting to tip downwards.

I just can’t be bothered any more with this stuff. Nothing makes a difference. You can explain detailed and nuanced policy realities and economics to these people, and you still just get back made-up crap taken entirely from GB News and so on.

We all tried our best for years to explain, and it’s like a brick wall. Brexit has been a crashing failure and an economic and political disaster, yet you still get the numpties banging on about “Buuuut the parliaments move!!!” Jesus save me.

Brexit has paralysed our political establishment for a decade. For years the civil service was stagnating in “delivering Brexit”. Our currency has effectively been devalued by 40 percent. We’re experiencing all of the slow death of the economy that we warned about. Yet the idiot parade thinks the people who got us into this mess are a good shout to crap up what’s left! You couldn’t make it up!

Probably fairly accurate.WW3 will happen (and has prob already started) But it’s not going to be the apocalypse everyone thinks. I suspect wide scale civil unrest (leading to civil war in some countries) it’s going to be difficult to decide who is fighting whom. Most of the wars will be disruption of utilities and information. There will be a lot of people and companies who will lose a lot of data/money. Banks are likely to be attacked, governments will struggle to cover losses. Nuclear war will be the very least of our worries. Most of the above is already happening. Stop getting distracted

I feel this could be revisited to see if you’re got it right. I’ll probably remember this post.

I agree that Starmer will probably go in May, but there will be no need to call an early election. Changing leader doesn't mean a GE. Labour would be crazy to call one.

Those stats still show that the Greens won't be LOTO.

They won't need to but they still will, to head off civil unrest if nothing else. It's very important for a government to look as if they have the confidence of the people, it's not a new thing or something that only happens abroad.

The days of cosy old Britain keeping on carrying on, is gone.

On the Greens, if you imagine the Labour confidence going down the way it is and the greens going up the way it is and LD staying roughy the same, thats a Green lead left wing coalition. God help us because the one thing a reform government needs - is a strong competent opposition.

You haven’t explained any ‘detailed and nuanced policy realities’ just questioned if someone was an idiot and getting all their information from the express when they mentioned the EU parliament moving between Brussels and Strasbourg. You then clarified your view is because you are an expert in EU politics and know more than anyone else ever could about the issue. I think this is why everyone is questioning your credibility.

Civil unrest over what?

The previous government changed leader once before the 2017 GE, once before the 2019 GE and twice again before the 2024 GE. I am not sure why you think a change of leader suddenly means a GE?

I think the Greens could easily take votes from Labour, they already are and the local elections will show more on numbers. I fear a Greens LOTO less than a coalition with them as a major power or influence.

Oth I’m not sure that coalition would last long, the markets would react. They already are on the prospect of higher spending so a Green / Lib / Labour approach would make our cost of debt too onerous.

@Warmlight1 no I have not. Facebook is the last place I would get my political opinions from. Thanks for the advice.

I've explained why I think governments often call elections when there is a change of leader or a change of circumstances, I think this will be one of them. Their hand will otherwise be forced.

Why civil unrest? I mean there is a pretty damned long list, nothing works, the roads are deteriorating in front of us, the welfare state keeps ballooning, our military has been hollowed out to the point of taking 10 days to send one ship to a war we knew was going to happen, the populations clear desire to see our borders being controlled and the government just not doing it, price inflation, wages stagnation, perceived crime increasing, lack of social mobility and house ownership for young people, debt here there and everywhere. The courts are a shambles, there's no justice and delays to everything. Everything is so dirty, covered in crap with rubbish all over. People wander around town off their tits, smashing things, shoplifting, or just lying on the floor curled up in a ball or shitting in bus shelters or kids play parks.

Everything is totally fucked and it takes 5m looking out your own window to see it. We are utterly paralysed by red tape, unelected bodies, social stigmas that prevent us seeing what is right in front of our eyes.

It's the last damned days of Rome but it's happening faster and it's being televised and live tweeted

If anyone still needs a damned clue about WHY people are looking at Reform and Restore - it's because of this. It's real, it's happening and pretending it's not is getting us nowhere fast.