Really don't like dogs being in virtually every cafe now

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I know another one, and yes this is quite trivial really.

Last week we went to a gorgeous new cafe, sat down, and within a minute I realised a large dog had appeared and was licking dds outstretched hand (she was delighted of course) then we had to get up and go and wash before eating, only to see the dog licking her hands again. Argh. Then it turned around and was wagging it's tail into me (I'm unfortunately allergic to fur and would rather not have to have fur on my clothes) - we werent even that close to the other table. It's just so annoying and I know I can ask it's owners to keep it away from us but seems a bit cruel to the dog and I jolly well shouldn't have to, they should be keeping an eye themselves without me having to have an awkward chat. Manners are meant to make everyone feel comfortable and not force people into seeming unreasonable because they don't want to get involved with the animal.

Then this afternoon, different cafe, on my own this time and got the fright of my life when all of a sudden a dog snarled and snapped at a child a few tables away, who of course screamed and was very distressed, someone could have had a heart attack!

I am going to have to be more mindful of places which don't have dogs in future I think.

And I imagine I am probably going to be told I am being unreasonable. I just want a coffee in peace without slobbering or snarling dogs

Asthmatic with severe cat and dog protein allergies. I agree OP, I even saw one in Sainsbury's the other day. No it wasn't a disability dog.

I like dogs very much, but I'm allergic to specific breeds (it depends on the hair), and the more dogs there are, the more my allergies kick in. They had to ban them from our local cafe after one was sitting on the table, and another bit a member of staff. As for 'dog friendly hotels' don't get me started. It wouldn't be so bad if people took dog beds, but so many people have their dogs IN bed with them. The sheets are changed but not the soft furnishings and in spite of antihistamine, I wake up wheezing. Have had to sleep in the car before now. Now, I have to ask for a dog free room, but not all hotels have them. Meanwhile the US is allowing dogs on flights. Sitting on seats. In an area where air is recycled? I keep wondering when the first airline will be sued. Presumably after the first serious asthma attack.

Lucky you. I have seen it too many times. I think the most entitled one was a mum changing a nappy on a display table in the furniture department in The Range. She left the nappy there too.

Letting a dog run riot in a cafe is bad, but so is letting a child do the same. Not the same as adults speaking loudly. Speaking in a cafe is normal. Letting your kid or dog run about is not. Both are antisocial.

I have never seen a person allergic to dogs be hassled by a dog owner. What does that look like?

OK Oona

Those other people were clearly very unreasonable. However. IMHO all dogs smell - some more than others. I do have a very sensitive nose (I’m autistic). I could never ever live with a dog due to the smell plus I strongly dislike dogs being in cafes due to the smell.

My dogs are loved and valued and a part of the family. That does not excuse the fact that yes, they are indeed unhygienic, spread germs, dog hair and dander floating about everywhere increasing risks of inflaming allergies and asthma, also in addition to people with phobias.

Dogs should be loved and valued but never above the health and wellbeing of humans.

I am sorry you have been called a burden to society but that does not mean it is acceptable to say.

They allow dogs in selfridges now. I saw a couple pushing a tiny pram and thought for an instant that it was more likely to be a dog than a baby! It was a baby.

I am a mum in London and apparently there are more dogs than children under 5 in London now so it was a toss up whether its a human baby or a dog.

We were in Germany and we went to tchibo (shop that sells coffee but often has random but useful things in stock) to buy a baby mug. We didn't find that but found dog clothes instead. So its global.

I am autistic too. Some of us love dogs.

actually, in one place, i noticed how the wait staff was super quick to bring water and play with a dog, but we had to ask several times for water for our daughter (who was v well behaved ..). i also remember going for lunch with PiL who took their dog - its v little and my MiL is a clean freak but dog still smells quite bad all the time - was lovely trying to eat and getting a whif of dog smell in between bites.. i literally felt sick throughout the whole meal. so, im the ‘no dogs should be allowed in cafes’ camp. no thank you

My DH stood in dog poo at the inside entrance to a coffee shop.

I'm with you, it's gross.

I am starting to see more dogs in Kew Gardens now, which is a shame as it used to be assistance dogs only.

One today who definitely did not look like an assistance dog, given that it didn't have any harness with signage and also the woman was pushing its dog pram!

Sorry, I ticked the wrong box. 🫣
YANBU. I am not allergic, but my DH is, and can only cope with small amounts of exposure.
I don’t personally have an issue with quiet, well behaved dogs in pubs/cafes/inside, but so many are not, and it drives me mad!

I have seen cards in the shops, "dog dad" etc, 😬

Yes, I recently complained at both John Lewis and Next!! Dogs sniffing at and walking right next to clothes which we no doubt dog- haired.
Disgusting.

And no I don't care if it's friendly FFS!!

Couldn't think of anything worse than taking my dogs into a cafe. Don't mind other dog's in cafe's. Been awhile since we had a dog in cafe posts.

It snarled and snapped at a toddler who let out a blood curdling shriek and cried loudly for the next ten minutes. It startled everyone and probably isnt great for people with blood pressure issues! But yeah sure, nobody died. That kid is probably traumatised and scared of dogs now.

I got my mum a Mother's Day card from her dog. She is going through a tough time right now, and it will make her smile.

I live quite rurally

You asked what being hassled looks like? It looks like an allergic person asking an owner to keep their dog back, only to be told 'Don't worry, he's hypoallergenic' (which is a myth) or "He's just being friendly!" It’s the complete dismissal of a physical health risk. A child being poorly behaved is antisocial, yes, but they aren't a walking allergen that can force a stranger to leave the building for their own safety.

It's going to take a death.

The same way peanuts only became restricted on flights when people died and ingredient warnings only started being put on food after children suffered

If I walked into a place where I intended to eat and there was a dog there I'd walk straight out again. If I saw or heard it was "dog friendly " I wouldn't walk in in the first place. I dont care if your dog is friendly or well behaved, I dont want it near my food and drink. Or its smells.

Full disclosure: I'm a dog owner, no children and probably conform to the 'prefer dogs to children' rhetoric.
I also don't want barky, snarly dogs in indoor confined spaces.
However in my experience this is actually extremely rare. And certainly rarer than poorly behaved children in pubs and restaurants. The vast majority of dogs I encounter on pubs/cafes/restaurants are well behaved and quiet.
The problem is irresponsible or entitled owners (of both the dogs and the children) not the dogs themselves. You either train your dog (or child...yes I will labour this point) to behave in public or you don't take them to such places.

What about the people who notice your dog and then say their throat is closing up, and they make a big issue about being "deathly allergic", when they literally only just noticed the dog that has been next to them for 2 hours already.
Because I have seen that on here.

Having been on many a dog hating thread on here, a lot of people hide behind allergies to just say they hate dogs and hate seeing them out.

It's the associated dog sh*t on footpath to and from the dog-friendly establishments that does my head in. We walk it into our homes because owners can't be arsed. It disgusts me.

and dogs in cafes are new to you?

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