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The Iranians see the strikes as a liberation, in the same way that France was liberated from the Nazis in WWII

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Endoflight · 09/03/2026 20:55

So please do not be against the war in the name of any Iranian.

The Islamic regime purposefully shot girls in the face, chests and vaginas to destroy their beauty. This was a regime of terrorists.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/17/x-rays-injuries-iran-protesters-hospital-birdshot-bullets

This is a regime that has massacred 30000 of its OWN people since January.

Body bags have lined the streets for months.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

The strikes are targeted and destroying the regimes military bases. Iranians are celebrating and feeling support for the first time in years.

We might not want to get involved in War in the U.K., but to not understand how this is a liberation is jarring to all Iranians who do not have sympathy for the terrorist regime, so please do not speak for them

‘Deliberate targeting of vital body parts’: X-rays taken after Iran protests expose extent of catastrophic injuries

Exclusive: Expert analysis of images from one hospital suggests severe trauma to the face, chest and genitals was caused by metal birdshot and high-calibre bullets

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/17/x-rays-injuries-iran-protesters-hospital-birdshot-bullets

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EasternStandard · 10/03/2026 20:24

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 10/03/2026 20:22

Yeah. It’s basically a threat.

Support the war, send your children in to die or pay the price and Islamic extremism will be coming to a town near you too.

It’s fucking sinister.

You’re getting that from the op’s posts? Sounds more like your version tbf

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 20:28

@FloralDeerPattern

This has degenerated the conversation and I will not continue with this. It reduces my argument and takes away from my point and the suffering of the Iranian people, I will not respond to any further ad hominem attacks.

I am leaving this thread now, it has been an emotional time the past few days and I need to take a break. I started this thread in the hope there were people who understood that the Iranian people see this as a liberation and I am actually really relieved to see 60% of people do agree. I want to thank every single one of the good people who support the people of Iran.

FREE IRAN ☀️ 🦁

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ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 20:29

EasternStandard · 10/03/2026 20:24

You’re getting that from the op’s posts? Sounds more like your version tbf

That it is too scary to say anything in case the thought police comes knocking, okay your question is answered

What do think OP means by this? I'd genuinely like to know your opinion.

JaneJeffer · 10/03/2026 20:30

I think everyone here supports the people of Iran

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 10/03/2026 20:33

@Endoflight. I get that, any hope is better than no hope I suppose. I just worry that the celebratory tone will enable Trump to feel like he did a good thing, walk away saying it’s down to the Iranian people and feel zero responsibility for what follows. Which could be great, but could be catastrophic. Sadly most commentators I hear seem to lean towards catastrophic. I hope they’re wrong.

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 20:35

JaneJeffer · 10/03/2026 20:30

I think everyone here supports the people of Iran

Yes. The narrative pushed on MN that if people don't support Trump and Netanyahu's illegal war, they support the Iranian regime is telling. And sinister.

Carla786 · 10/03/2026 20:36

Endoflight · 09/03/2026 22:35

I do not believe Trump is starting this war for selfless reasons, ofcourse not, but it does not matter; the Iranians have fought with their blood, against a regime who patrols the streets with guns ready to shoot civilians in the back; ready to aim at their eyes. The Iranians are unarmed. This is the largest massacre in recent history and there has been barely a whisper about it on Mumsnet or social media. 30000 have died fighting the regime. Yet when war was announced by the US, suddenly it seems people are interested and speaking of the ‘thousands that will die’ due to America.

The fact is that Iranians see the US and Israel as liberating them. If the U.K. does not want to get involved then I respect that, but please do not speak for the Iranian people and talk only of ‘massacres’ by the US but nothing about the Islamic regime killing 30000 of their OWN people.

Iran needed the help of the US and Israel to kill the mullahs and to destroy their military bases. The US and Israel’s strikes are debilitating the regime and for the first time in 47 years millions of Iranians have hope.

There is a leader who is ready and has the backing of Iranians both inside and outside Iran, his name is Reza Pahlavi, he will create a secular government, one far removed from the Islamic regime. Iran has the chance of being a democratic country, one that Iranians have fought for for decades.

I have been on Mumsnet a long time, I have been on threads with women lying next to their abuser trying to get out in the middle of the night and the support women have offered sent shivers down my spine, I’ve seen women help women get out of a situation when they have absolutely nooone to turn to and have been beaten and burned. This is what the women of Iran are going through so can we change the narrative from fixating on ‘an illegal war’ to focussing on their liberation from a totalitarian regime.

Why do you say there's been "barely a whisper' on Mumsnet about the killings in the protests?

I've seen a lot of discussion on here of the protests, the brutality & the broader Woman Life Freedom movement.

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 20:36

ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 10/03/2026 20:33

@Endoflight. I get that, any hope is better than no hope I suppose. I just worry that the celebratory tone will enable Trump to feel like he did a good thing, walk away saying it’s down to the Iranian people and feel zero responsibility for what follows. Which could be great, but could be catastrophic. Sadly most commentators I hear seem to lean towards catastrophic. I hope they’re wrong.

I just worry that the celebratory tone will enable Trump to feel like he did a good thing, walk away saying it’s down to the Iranian people and feel zero responsibility for what follows

He has actually said that.

EasternStandard · 10/03/2026 20:39

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 20:35

Yes. The narrative pushed on MN that if people don't support Trump and Netanyahu's illegal war, they support the Iranian regime is telling. And sinister.

I don’t think so. I don’t think it’s possible for the Iranian people to do it alone as some have suggested.

Whether anything else happens or the status quo remains can be the other options.

Carla786 · 10/03/2026 20:39

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 15:29

@FloralDeerPattern
It is true that I do not live in Iran, but I have family there and I know the culture. The Iranians were a liberal society. They never wanted to live under Islamic rule. Even those who supported the idea of a republic for the people had no idea what the Islamic republic had in store for them. When the ayotolah first came into power he was quoted as saying ‘the women of Iran will be free’ in fact he said ‘they will be more free than the women of France’. We see how this has panned out. Then after coming into power and as soon as the Islamic regime was established, the first thing the Islamic republic did was make hijab mandatory by law. After this they threw acid in the faces of women who weren’t wearing hijab and had the ‘morality police’ surveillance and the military policing the streets to ensure it was enforced. If women were found under surveillance to not be wearing the hijab correctly they were bottled, beaten or shot. This is the biggest terrorist regime in the world.

I don’t claim to speak for everyone but I urge you to think about how the Iranians have come to this situation.

Edited

I understand large parts of Iran were liberal, but wasn't Khomeini's support base also fuelled by conservative rural areas?

Though my understanding is that conservative religious Iranians still mostly don't suppprt the draconian modesty rules & brutal punishments

HappyFace2025 · 10/03/2026 20:42

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 20:35

Yes. The narrative pushed on MN that if people don't support Trump and Netanyahu's illegal war, they support the Iranian regime is telling. And sinister.

I disagree that that is the prevailing narrative on MN. Far from it.

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 20:44

EasternStandard · 10/03/2026 20:39

I don’t think so. I don’t think it’s possible for the Iranian people to do it alone as some have suggested.

Whether anything else happens or the status quo remains can be the other options.

Edited

You may have not seen some of the posts I have.

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 20:46

HappyFace2025 · 10/03/2026 20:42

I disagree that that is the prevailing narrative on MN. Far from it.

It isn't the prevailing narrative I agree. But I have seen a lot of accusations, some subtle some not so subtle, along those lines.

JaneJeffer · 10/03/2026 20:47

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 20:46

It isn't the prevailing narrative I agree. But I have seen a lot of accusations, some subtle some not so subtle, along those lines.

Me too

EasternStandard · 10/03/2026 20:48

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 20:44

You may have not seen some of the posts I have.

I have seen a few people say it has to be the Iranians who overthrow the regime but given the comprehensive oppression and how much that works I’m wondering what people prefer they do instead?

You don’t have to say Trump / Netanyahu which is fine but I’d be interested to hear what other things can be done.

HappyFace2025 · 10/03/2026 20:54

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 10/03/2026 20:23

That’s not how your posts read.

How do they read, then?

HappyFace2025 · 10/03/2026 20:57

EasternStandard · 10/03/2026 20:48

I have seen a few people say it has to be the Iranians who overthrow the regime but given the comprehensive oppression and how much that works I’m wondering what people prefer they do instead?

You don’t have to say Trump / Netanyahu which is fine but I’d be interested to hear what other things can be done.

So would I.

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 20:58

EasternStandard · 10/03/2026 20:48

I have seen a few people say it has to be the Iranians who overthrow the regime but given the comprehensive oppression and how much that works I’m wondering what people prefer they do instead?

You don’t have to say Trump / Netanyahu which is fine but I’d be interested to hear what other things can be done.

You don’t have to say Trump / Netanyahu which is fine but I’d be interested to hear what other things can be done

I don't know. I wish I did.

I notice you keep endlessly asking that of posters who don't support the war. I am not sure how you expect the average Mumsnetter to come up with a solution to the terrible situation the people of Iran are in. If it were that easy or obvious, they would be free of the regime by now.

I also notice you endlessly avoid questions asked of you.

EasternStandard · 10/03/2026 21:01

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 20:58

You don’t have to say Trump / Netanyahu which is fine but I’d be interested to hear what other things can be done

I don't know. I wish I did.

I notice you keep endlessly asking that of posters who don't support the war. I am not sure how you expect the average Mumsnetter to come up with a solution to the terrible situation the people of Iran are in. If it were that easy or obvious, they would be free of the regime by now.

I also notice you endlessly avoid questions asked of you.

It’s only because the last few posts go on about sinister whatever.

So I wanted to clarify what I was asking. The rest, I can see why the op has gone.

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 21:05

I can see why the op has gone

Me too.

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 10/03/2026 21:06

HappyFace2025 · 10/03/2026 20:54

How do they read, then?

Well, when I read the thread in the early hours I honestly thought that the OP may have been a trump supporter, someone wanting to whip up support for the war. All the talk of how this is the liberation, how we have no right to decide this war is wrong etc etc.

But since then the OP has now switched to essentially saying that she fears that Islamic extremism is coming to the UK, but oh she can’t say exactly what she wants because “the thought police.” I suspect that if she says what she wants she would get deleted. Because the implication is clear. Support the war or Islamic extremism is heading this way too.

EasternStandard · 10/03/2026 21:08

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 21:05

I can see why the op has gone

Me too.

Well it’s not unknown she says why below. Due to the ad hominem attacks.

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 10/03/2026 21:11

HappyFace2025 · 10/03/2026 20:57

So would I.

Nothing. That’s precisely the point.

This is why the OP has said herself that the people can’t overthrow the regime and why she is supporting the war.

But trump and his ilk aren’t interested in the Iranian people.

HappyFace2025 · 10/03/2026 21:13

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 10/03/2026 21:06

Well, when I read the thread in the early hours I honestly thought that the OP may have been a trump supporter, someone wanting to whip up support for the war. All the talk of how this is the liberation, how we have no right to decide this war is wrong etc etc.

But since then the OP has now switched to essentially saying that she fears that Islamic extremism is coming to the UK, but oh she can’t say exactly what she wants because “the thought police.” I suspect that if she says what she wants she would get deleted. Because the implication is clear. Support the war or Islamic extremism is heading this way too.

I read OPs threads not as saying the 'thought police would come to you door' here in Britain (although that has happened when one woman's tweet got her imprisoned) but most certainly would in Iran. She has not posted anything here that MNHQ is likely to delete but some other posters are pretty near the mark.

peace7 · 10/03/2026 21:15

No they don’t see it as liberation but western media make it look like they are. Someone falsely plucked the number 40000 that were killed. Like the the ‘40’ babies burnt. I know as I have family there and they all freely live there

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