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The Iranians see the strikes as a liberation, in the same way that France was liberated from the Nazis in WWII

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Endoflight · 09/03/2026 20:55

So please do not be against the war in the name of any Iranian.

The Islamic regime purposefully shot girls in the face, chests and vaginas to destroy their beauty. This was a regime of terrorists.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/17/x-rays-injuries-iran-protesters-hospital-birdshot-bullets

This is a regime that has massacred 30000 of its OWN people since January.

Body bags have lined the streets for months.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

The strikes are targeted and destroying the regimes military bases. Iranians are celebrating and feeling support for the first time in years.

We might not want to get involved in War in the U.K., but to not understand how this is a liberation is jarring to all Iranians who do not have sympathy for the terrorist regime, so please do not speak for them

‘Deliberate targeting of vital body parts’: X-rays taken after Iran protests expose extent of catastrophic injuries

Exclusive: Expert analysis of images from one hospital suggests severe trauma to the face, chest and genitals was caused by metal birdshot and high-calibre bullets

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/17/x-rays-injuries-iran-protesters-hospital-birdshot-bullets

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EasternStandard · 09/03/2026 23:05

Endoflight · 09/03/2026 21:25

I think in a Western country it is hard to fathom the atrocities the Islamic regime have committed.

For those that think the strikes are the difficult part of this journey…women have been terrorised for decades under the regime. As women who have grown up in the West we are extremely lucky to never have known such terror by our government.

Please can I ask all women on here who consider themselves feminists, this is Mumsnet after all, to stand with the Iranian women.

The Islamic regime is the equivalent of an abuser. Women have had acid thrown in their faces, their eyes shot, they have been bottled and shot in their genitals for wanting to be able to walk down the street without a head covering.

Can I ask you to please put your views on Trump and politics to the side (indeed if it means holding your nose) and stand with the women of Iran who have had NO voice and for the first time have a chance for freedom

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It’s horrendous and I hope it can end and people thrive in freedom from this, I really do.

lljkk · 09/03/2026 23:07

I sure hope you're right OP and Iran is on path to a near future which is prosperrous and have the freedom so many Iranians crave.

Hope isn't the same as expectation, though.

ValueofNothing · 09/03/2026 23:08

One of the tells of the online US propaganda machine is they always write UK "U.K." with full stops.

It was the same in the pro-bombing Venezuela treads. Similar tone, too.

EasternStandard · 09/03/2026 23:11

ValueofNothing · 09/03/2026 23:08

One of the tells of the online US propaganda machine is they always write UK "U.K." with full stops.

It was the same in the pro-bombing Venezuela treads. Similar tone, too.

When I type U.K. the dots are added automatically.

Endoflight · 09/03/2026 23:13

Are you kidding? @ValueofNothing

my iPhone autocorrected it if you really want to know and for background I am half Iranian, half English and I’ve grown up in London but have family in Iran so no @ValueofNothing in fact I would like to put it to you that you’re either extremely paranoid or part of the Islamic regime ‘propaganda machine’ if we want to be equally ridiculous

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26weeksexactlytoday · 09/03/2026 23:20

Not all Iranians.
I am Iranian, I am totally against the current government, but do not agree with this war either.
Trump is not going to liberate us or our country unfortunately, that’s my opinion anyway.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 09/03/2026 23:23

26weeksexactlytoday · 09/03/2026 23:20

Not all Iranians.
I am Iranian, I am totally against the current government, but do not agree with this war either.
Trump is not going to liberate us or our country unfortunately, that’s my opinion anyway.

Are you in the Uk or Iran.

GloiredeDijon · 09/03/2026 23:25

WhereIsMyLight · 09/03/2026 21:17

Two things can be true at once.

The Iranian regime can be brutal, killing tens of thousands of Iranians. Iranians can be happy that the regime has been overthrown. That there might be a better future waiting for them.

The rest of the world can also be highly suspicious of Trump’s motives in starting the war. They can choose to opt of this war because they don’t believe it is about the Iranian people and actually all about oil and ally support for Israel. That it’s actually about power and ego. That it isn’t just military bases being hit. That schools should not be the target of warfare, no matter how liberating for the people in that country.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cvg548lyjnyo

Very true.
Trump gives zero shits about anyone apart from himself. Not even his own citizens.
Everything is transactional for what he will get out of it.

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 09/03/2026 23:29

GloiredeDijon · 09/03/2026 23:25

Very true.
Trump gives zero shits about anyone apart from himself. Not even his own citizens.
Everything is transactional for what he will get out of it.

Fucking hell have people not read the op and understood what she is saying.
No, all anyone wants to use the thread for is to show how they hate Trump.

FloralDeerPattern · 09/03/2026 23:44

We might not want to get involved in War in the U.K., but to not understand how this is a liberation is jarring to all Iranians who do not have sympathy for the terrorist regime, so please do not speak for them

Can you maybe explain how this is a liberation? Break it down, who has been freed, what does this liberation look, what new rights have been gained etc? It might be more effective and lead to more support for this war if people know the benefits that it has brought rather than just telling people off.

SplodgeWaddler · 09/03/2026 23:50

I am all for it. The Iranian regime were backing Hamas and Hezbollah. They are extremests who need to modernise and move foward.

JaneJeffer · 09/03/2026 23:51

As if Trump and Netanyahu give two fucks about women and children in any country.

smallglassbottle · 09/03/2026 23:52

Trump doesn't care one jot about the Iranian people. Israel is utilising the US to neutralise Iran and who knows whether or not there's a coherent plan in place to help the Iranians to establish a competent, democratic leadership. I'd guess there isn't.

MarthaBeach · 09/03/2026 23:56

Endoflight · 09/03/2026 21:25

I think in a Western country it is hard to fathom the atrocities the Islamic regime have committed.

For those that think the strikes are the difficult part of this journey…women have been terrorised for decades under the regime. As women who have grown up in the West we are extremely lucky to never have known such terror by our government.

Please can I ask all women on here who consider themselves feminists, this is Mumsnet after all, to stand with the Iranian women.

The Islamic regime is the equivalent of an abuser. Women have had acid thrown in their faces, their eyes shot, they have been bottled and shot in their genitals for wanting to be able to walk down the street without a head covering.

Can I ask you to please put your views on Trump and politics to the side (indeed if it means holding your nose) and stand with the women of Iran who have had NO voice and for the first time have a chance for freedom

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This is a very powerful post, and I wish with all my heart for the women and girls of Iran to be free.

ExtraOnions · 09/03/2026 23:59

I look forward the bombing Saudi, with thier terrible track record in Women’s Rights, and Human Rights in general. Maybe they could start a war with North Korea?

I would love to know one Country that has been improved, long term, by the USA getting imvolved? I believe Women are in a worse situation than ever in Afghanistan.

FloralDeerPattern · 10/03/2026 00:02

smallglassbottle · 09/03/2026 23:52

Trump doesn't care one jot about the Iranian people. Israel is utilising the US to neutralise Iran and who knows whether or not there's a coherent plan in place to help the Iranians to establish a competent, democratic leadership. I'd guess there isn't.

I really don't think there is nor does this Israeli official.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/israeli-official-says-no-clear-alternative-to-irans-regime-warns-of-never-ending-story-report/

And Trump suggested US operations against Iran could end soon, saying "I think the war is very complete, pretty much." So it doesn't look like 'liberation' is high up his priority list if he thinks the war is pretty much done as is.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 10/03/2026 00:15

IsEveryUserNameBloodyTaken · 09/03/2026 22:15

This thread isn’t about Trump, it's about the people of Iran who are happy about the situation in light of the decades they have suffered.

That's fine and well, but the point isn't really about Trump, it's about the fact this is not and never has been about "liberation", so even if that's how Iranians are viewing it they're a bit misguided.

Right now it's looking very much like the only net effect is more dead Iranians, only this time around it's Israeli and US munitions killing them as well as their own government.

It all rather begs the question "what is the point" if nothing has materially changed once the bombing ceases.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 10/03/2026 00:17

ExtraOnions · 09/03/2026 23:59

I look forward the bombing Saudi, with thier terrible track record in Women’s Rights, and Human Rights in general. Maybe they could start a war with North Korea?

I would love to know one Country that has been improved, long term, by the USA getting imvolved? I believe Women are in a worse situation than ever in Afghanistan.

I would love to know one Country that has been improved, long term, by the USA getting imvolved? I believe Women are in a worse situation than ever in Afghanistan

Japan.

Repressive, fascist autocracy with a penchant for invading and enslaving their neighbours. 20 years later an open Democracy with a flourishing economy.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 10/03/2026 00:18

JaneJeffer · 09/03/2026 23:51

As if Trump and Netanyahu give two fucks about women and children in any country.

Including their own countries!

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 00:31

When the bombing destroys the regime’s military bases and kills all the mullahs it will be safe for the people to come out onto the streets. Reza Pahlavi, the King’s son has said he will form a transitional government before the people take a democratic vote to decide themselves. I do believe this is the greatest opportunity we will ever have; there have been many protests before but without outside help to destroy the military operations and to kill the mullahs of the Islamic regime, the protests failed every time. The Iranians can see the bombs falling on the military bases and it is empowering them. The regime is also running out of money and ammunition; soon they should be debilitated

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ladykale · 10/03/2026 00:35

Endoflight · 09/03/2026 20:55

So please do not be against the war in the name of any Iranian.

The Islamic regime purposefully shot girls in the face, chests and vaginas to destroy their beauty. This was a regime of terrorists.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/17/x-rays-injuries-iran-protesters-hospital-birdshot-bullets

This is a regime that has massacred 30000 of its OWN people since January.

Body bags have lined the streets for months.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

The strikes are targeted and destroying the regimes military bases. Iranians are celebrating and feeling support for the first time in years.

We might not want to get involved in War in the U.K., but to not understand how this is a liberation is jarring to all Iranians who do not have sympathy for the terrorist regime, so please do not speak for them

So @Endoflightwhy did the U.S. withdraw from Afghanistan if it’s all about female liberation?

Women there have even fewer rights than in Iran.

HeddaGarbled · 10/03/2026 00:42

Some do. Some are terrified.

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 10/03/2026 04:32

If Iranians think this was a liberation they are naive.

And all this “I stand with Iranian women” is just performative on the part of anyone who says it.

Trump has pretty much declared the war over, Iran has a new leader, representing the same regime, absolutely nothing has changed for the Iranian people except the fact that they’re now being killed by air strikes from Israeli and US missiles as well as by their own people.

People are accusing those of saying this isn’t a liberation because they’re desperate to hate Trump. That’s not true.

People are saying it because Trump hasn’t done anything. Any further liberating needs to come from the Iranians themselves. And until or unless that happens, Iran will continue to exist as it previously has once Trump and his mob disappear, which appears to be about to happen.

He’s already board

randomchap · 10/03/2026 06:20

France was liberated from a foreign country, it was done with a full blown invasion by the US and commonwealth. There was a plan to put the French back in charge. Prior to D-day the French resistance had been trained and armed by the allies too

What's happening in Iran is not the same. Trump has no intention of putting boots on the ground, there's no plan on how to replace the current theocracy, and the Iranian people don't have the weapons to rise up

Unless there's a commitment to actually invade I really can't see this being liberation for them. It's awful