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The Iranians see the strikes as a liberation, in the same way that France was liberated from the Nazis in WWII

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Endoflight · 09/03/2026 20:55

So please do not be against the war in the name of any Iranian.

The Islamic regime purposefully shot girls in the face, chests and vaginas to destroy their beauty. This was a regime of terrorists.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/17/x-rays-injuries-iran-protesters-hospital-birdshot-bullets

This is a regime that has massacred 30000 of its OWN people since January.

Body bags have lined the streets for months.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

The strikes are targeted and destroying the regimes military bases. Iranians are celebrating and feeling support for the first time in years.

We might not want to get involved in War in the U.K., but to not understand how this is a liberation is jarring to all Iranians who do not have sympathy for the terrorist regime, so please do not speak for them

‘Deliberate targeting of vital body parts’: X-rays taken after Iran protests expose extent of catastrophic injuries

Exclusive: Expert analysis of images from one hospital suggests severe trauma to the face, chest and genitals was caused by metal birdshot and high-calibre bullets

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/17/x-rays-injuries-iran-protesters-hospital-birdshot-bullets

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AnSpideog · 10/03/2026 19:21

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 16:17

@catipuss I don’t think this is true, unarmed civilians came out for months of protests, 30000 are dead but they are unarmed and the military has weapons. The US and Israel will destroy the military operations and the mullahs. If that is all they do, I hope it’s enough of a crack in the system to give an uprising by the Iranian people a chance

This is unlikely, an uprising by unarmed civilians. We know this based on history.

The reality is regime changes require troops - armed troops - on the ground. So either there is a lack of a plan or there is a plan that we are not being told about.

I understand that Iranians see this as a hopeful moment and I fully support Iranian women, I have been following the situation of prominent female activists in Iran for years. But I’m just not convinced at all that Israel and the US will ultimately help them.

JaneJeffer · 10/03/2026 19:22

mushypetits · 10/03/2026 18:27

Yes but the women and children don't have a free life in Iran do they. I think they are prepared to die in a war against the regime rather than by the regime (from what I'm lead to believe). Dreadful circumstances.

And to think that they were a free, liberated country until this feckin Islamic regime took over. I am terrified for what may happen here for our children and grandchildren.

Where do you live?

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 19:24

@mushypetits Im scared too for our children and grandchildren even living in England because Islamic extremism is a real threat here and after seeing what it’s done to my Mum’s country I have heightened awareness of how quickly things can happen; but that is not the point of my thread so I won’t digress.

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ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 19:27

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 19:24

@mushypetits Im scared too for our children and grandchildren even living in England because Islamic extremism is a real threat here and after seeing what it’s done to my Mum’s country I have heightened awareness of how quickly things can happen; but that is not the point of my thread so I won’t digress.

England is not going to become like Iran.

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 19:34

@ComradeAmoeba I didn’t say it would, I don’t believe it ever will, but given a chance it would. That is all

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BabooshkaHaHa · 10/03/2026 19:41

Nazanin Zaghari-Radcliffe is among 100 Iranians living in the Uk who say that the war will only strengthen the regime. She and other Iranians think that they will use it as further proof of Western Imperialism.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/10/iranians-living-in-uk-warn-starmer-war-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-letter

I’m not a Churchill fan but this quote seems apposite:
"The Statesman who yields to war fever must realise that once the signal is given, he is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events".

Iranians living in UK tell Starmer that war will only strengthen Tehran regime

Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe among more than 100 signatories to letter urging PM not to get drawn further into the conflict

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/10/iranians-living-in-uk-warn-starmer-war-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-letter

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 19:42

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 19:34

@ComradeAmoeba I didn’t say it would, I don’t believe it ever will, but given a chance it would. That is all

So what is it you are scared of for your
children and grandchildren?

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 19:45

I’m not going to go into it because it is a problem but it is not anything anyone can say so I will stop now

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Endoflight · 10/03/2026 19:48

@BabooshkaHaHa this is sad to read but I accept this counter argument, I hope they are not right

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ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 19:48

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 19:45

I’m not going to go into it because it is a problem but it is not anything anyone can say so I will stop now

This response basically answers my question.

EasternStandard · 10/03/2026 19:49

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 15:29

@FloralDeerPattern
It is true that I do not live in Iran, but I have family there and I know the culture. The Iranians were a liberal society. They never wanted to live under Islamic rule. Even those who supported the idea of a republic for the people had no idea what the Islamic republic had in store for them. When the ayotolah first came into power he was quoted as saying ‘the women of Iran will be free’ in fact he said ‘they will be more free than the women of France’. We see how this has panned out. Then after coming into power and as soon as the Islamic regime was established, the first thing the Islamic republic did was make hijab mandatory by law. After this they threw acid in the faces of women who weren’t wearing hijab and had the ‘morality police’ surveillance and the military policing the streets to ensure it was enforced. If women were found under surveillance to not be wearing the hijab correctly they were bottled, beaten or shot. This is the biggest terrorist regime in the world.

I don’t claim to speak for everyone but I urge you to think about how the Iranians have come to this situation.

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This is so bad. And then you’re pretty much shut off and everyone says fix it yourselves, when it’s impossible.

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 19:49

That it is too scary to say anything in case the thought police comes knocking, okay your question is answered

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ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 19:52

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 19:49

That it is too scary to say anything in case the thought police comes knocking, okay your question is answered

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The worst that will happen is mnhq will delete anything that breaks Talk guidelines!

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 19:56

@EasternStandard
This is exactly it. When Islamic extremism becomes too epidemic it is impossible for civilians to fight alone, it is literally like the book 1984

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Boolabus · 10/03/2026 19:59

So @Endoflight if you feel the current bombings of Iran by the US and Israel are a catalyst for change what do you think needs to happen now to build on this momentum?

JaneJeffer · 10/03/2026 20:01

BabooshkaHaHa · 10/03/2026 19:41

Nazanin Zaghari-Radcliffe is among 100 Iranians living in the Uk who say that the war will only strengthen the regime. She and other Iranians think that they will use it as further proof of Western Imperialism.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/10/iranians-living-in-uk-warn-starmer-war-nazanin-zaghari-ratcliffe-letter

I’m not a Churchill fan but this quote seems apposite:
"The Statesman who yields to war fever must realise that once the signal is given, he is no longer the master of policy but the slave of unforeseeable and uncontrollable events".

I think we should listen to these people but I also think Churchill has a lot to answer for.

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 20:04

@Boolabus this is a good question, I think the people now have an opportunity to reclaim their country.

If the military runs out of weapons, trade has ceased with Iran, the mullahs are dead, there is a chance that Reza Pahlavi who has a government representing all faiths and is ready to act as a transitionary leader can begin to form a secular democratic government

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ThinkAboutItTomorrow · 10/03/2026 20:05

Not being goady but why will Iran go any differently from Afghanistan? Especially if Trump doesn’t invade on the ground? Surely the IRGC will fade away only to come back as soon as the coast’s clear, just like the Taliban. Possibly with decades of fighting against liberal factions and even internally amongst islamists.
I don’t think the idea of removing the IRGC is bad, I just wonder why this way of doing it (air assault and no plan) is being celebrated.

FloralDeerPattern · 10/03/2026 20:07

ComradeAmoeba · 10/03/2026 19:48

This response basically answers my question.

It's certainly enlightening. It have found it very difficult not to notice that it is a common theme amongst people who are pro this war.

EasternStandard · 10/03/2026 20:08

FloralDeerPattern · 10/03/2026 20:07

It's certainly enlightening. It have found it very difficult not to notice that it is a common theme amongst people who are pro this war.

I think the regime is terrifying for obvious reasons, but what do you mean specifically?

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 20:09

@ThinkAboutItTomorrow the way you describe would be better but it’s not on offer; yes this may only be a window of opportunity but it is all there is and for decades there has been nothing.

Every Iranian community I know, in Iran itself, the US, England, Australia and Canada is celebrating this because it provides a flicker of hope, and the Iranians are brave I think they will take it

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Endoflight · 10/03/2026 20:10

@FloralDeerPattern oh it’s enlightening? I am glad you are enlightened that I may not have a soft spot for Islamic extremists

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FloralDeerPattern · 10/03/2026 20:13

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 20:10

@FloralDeerPattern oh it’s enlightening? I am glad you are enlightened that I may not have a soft spot for Islamic extremists

You can't say that you are against Islamic extremism or the thought police will be at your door? Yeah sure.

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 10/03/2026 20:22

FloralDeerPattern · 10/03/2026 20:07

It's certainly enlightening. It have found it very difficult not to notice that it is a common theme amongst people who are pro this war.

Yeah. It’s basically a threat.

Support the war, send your children in to die or pay the price and Islamic extremism will be coming to a town near you too.

It’s fucking sinister.

ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey · 10/03/2026 20:23

Endoflight · 10/03/2026 20:10

@FloralDeerPattern oh it’s enlightening? I am glad you are enlightened that I may not have a soft spot for Islamic extremists

That’s not how your posts read.

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