The Iranians see the strikes as a liberation, in the same way that France was liberated from the Nazis in WWII

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So please do not be against the war in the name of any Iranian.

The Islamic regime purposefully shot girls in the face, chests and vaginas to destroy their beauty. This was a regime of terrorists.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/17/x-rays-injuries-iran-protesters-hospital-birdshot-bullets

This is a regime that has massacred 30000 of its OWN people since January.

Body bags have lined the streets for months.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

The strikes are targeted and destroying the regimes military bases. Iranians are celebrating and feeling support for the first time in years.

We might not want to get involved in War in the U.K., but to not understand how this is a liberation is jarring to all Iranians who do not have sympathy for the terrorist regime, so please do not speak for them

So absolutely nothing to do with the liberation of the Iranian people then.

No it isn't

It's just yet more "IF YOU CRITICISE THE US ITS BECAUSE YOU'RE A LEFTIE AND YOU HATE TRUMP AND LOVE THE IRANIAN REGIME" drivel.

The Iranian regime is abhorrent, it's common knowledge what they've been up to both historically and more recently, so being critical of the US and Israel is northing whatsoever to do with being ignorant of the reality inside Iran.

it's perfectly possible to see the aimless futility of this conflict without being a "lefty", be critical of the approach and absence of rationality without "hating Trump", and wish for full liberation or the Iranian people and acknowledge their plight, while still being of the view that just simply attacking the regime and it's assets for the sake of it, with no other coherent plan as to what comes next or after, is an act of total futility.

This "if you are not uncritically 100% behind/with us then you are supporting the enemy" is absolutely prototypical MAGA garbage. It totally lacks nuance, ignores reality, and deserves nothing but contempt.

It is possible to abhor the murderous Iranian regime, want to see an end to it but also be against this war.

I am a lefty, but I haven't ignored the murder of protestors or the agony of Iranian women.

Eta: cross posted with the excellent post by @XDownwiththissortofthingX

That covers the first 2 objectives of the link I posted.

Doesn't mention preventing Iran from developing nuclear weapons but that has been mentioned multiple times as a US/Israel goal.

preventing Iran from supporting proxy groups - inevitable that Iran will be less able economically after the war to support proxy groups. This will be beneficial to both Israel and the US, but mainly Israel.

Exactly.

I disagree with you. Not sure how you get to thinking that your shouty first paragraph has anything to do with @Marmalademorning's post that focuses on what Iranians have suffered for 47 years under the totalitarian regime.

They must not have understood the post by @Marmalademorning if they think they are making the same point.

That'll be because of the utterly ridiculous assertions in the first paragraph that suggest anyone being critical is doing so out of ignorance and picking and choosing the facts they reference.

It's total nonsense, typical of the MAGA "with us or against us" approach to absolutely every issue, and quite frankly, its fucking offensive.

Badenoch and Farage have both now said the UK shouldn't be involved in this war. Are they anti-US, anti-Israel lefties? 🤔

No of course not.

The UK isn't much involved in this war and most of us on these threads have said we think Starmer's stance is the correct one.

Farage has done quite the U turn though hasn't he?

Do you have a link to Badenoch saying the UK shouldn't be involved in the war - I haven't heard that?

I haven't seen any posts that refer to MAGA 'with us or against us approach to absolutely every issue.' Nobody I know either on MN or IRL is a MAGA supporter.

Her u-turn is as screeching as Farage's.

www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/mar/10/badenoch-denies-calling-for-uk-to-join-us-israeli-war-on-iran

I don’t think anyone wants troops on the ground here or anywhere atm.

I haven’t seen much appetite for that from any politician either.

People conveniently ignore the fact that Netanyahu would be delighted with just bringing chaos to Iran. He doesn't need a regime change all he needs is for Iran to be so engulfed with chaos that they don't have the time or means to attack Israel. This won't be a positive thing for Iranians and as a stable Iran and a bright future for Iranians isn't a goal of this war neither Israel nor the US care.

A lot of people on the left are against the war just because Donald Trump and Israel are involved in it.

This kind of take on the situation is so bland and one dimensional.

'A lot of people on the left are against the war just because Donald Trump and Israel are involved in it'.
'This kind of take on the situation is so bland and one dimensional.'

But, nevertheless, true.

The White House has released a video of Pete Hegseth the US defence secretary, from his media briefing at the Pentagon yesterday.

The mission is laser focused:
Obliterate Iran's missiles and drones and facilities that produce them
Annihilate it's Navy and critical security infrastructure
And sever their pathway to nuclear weapons.
Iran will never possess a nuclear bomb.

One gets the feeling this 'laser' focus is actually pretty flexible according to what they actually manage to achieve 😬

Hoping we hear of some homegrown opposition arising in Iran soon 🙏

The names they give things are so cringe.

But yes, I'm also hoping Iranians in Iran can rise up.

Is it?
You dont think our outstanding record of failure in Iraq/Libya/Afghanistan carry any weight then? Do you think they've been forgotten? Or is Iran different?

Does anyone undertsnd the new info that Iran is planning on sending drones to California ?

Where has that been reported, please?

It is a bit vague:

FBI warns Iran aspired to attack California with drones in retaliation for war: Alert - ABC News https://share.google/S4E6UFbVWvDNX3R61

Can drones go that far ?
Would air craft shoot them down ?

My understanding is that Iran is pretty good at missiles and drones, having supplied Russia with plenty to attack Ukhaine, but reaching California.... reaching NYC would be a stretch.

Anyway this drone threat is a whole new thing I hope the UK is keeping up to date.