The Iranians see the strikes as a liberation, in the same way that France was liberated from the Nazis in WWII

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So please do not be against the war in the name of any Iranian.

The Islamic regime purposefully shot girls in the face, chests and vaginas to destroy their beauty. This was a regime of terrorists.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/feb/17/x-rays-injuries-iran-protesters-hospital-birdshot-bullets

This is a regime that has massacred 30000 of its OWN people since January.

Body bags have lined the streets for months.

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

The strikes are targeted and destroying the regimes military bases. Iranians are celebrating and feeling support for the first time in years.

We might not want to get involved in War in the U.K., but to not understand how this is a liberation is jarring to all Iranians who do not have sympathy for the terrorist regime, so please do not speak for them

Sounds like Trump s getting bored is already, announcing it's complete. So all he's done is change leader to an event more hard-line son who's family have been killed. Not sure that's a good outcome for the Iranian people.

France was liberated from invasion by a foreign country - a home grown dictator is a false equivalence.

Trump has said a replacement of Khamenei who is basically an equivalent Islamic extremist will not happen. Even if he does change his mind because I agree he is fickle and him getting bored is plausible; I 💯 do not believe Israel will be happy with the staus quo. Israel can do this alone if they have to and for their own self-interest I do believe they will kill every single one of the mullahs in the Islamic regime. They are not going to want to leave the job half done and as neighbours have heightened attacks from the Islamic extremists.

Mossad (Israeli intelligence) was so effective that they completely infiltrated the Iranian government, which is why they knew exactly Khamemei’s whereabouts to kill him. The Israelis hate the Islamic regime almost as much as the Iranians do and they have the ammunition and coordination to help.

Except it already has happened.

And since his election Trump has pretty much washed his hands of the whole affair and declared the war to be over.

And Putin has apparently endorsed the election of the new leader, and we all know that Putin and Trump are Allies, so if Putin says it’s ok then Trump will be congratulating him soon.

Genuinely I would like to hope that The Iranians could rise up and take over, but if they haven’t done it before nothing has changed which means they’ll be able to do it now.

@ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey

Okay let’s play devils advocate and say you are right, my original post was about the narrative we are using here in the UK, and about how I have seen threads describing the USA and Israel’s attacks on Iran as massacres when this is NOT how the Iranian people see it. I am asking people to please not speak for them. The Iranians see the 30000 killed over the last four months of terror inflicted by their own government as a massacre. Thousands of Iranians have children whose eyes or genitals have been shot. Even elderly people and toddlers who stood with the young people in the protests were shot in order to leave them permanently disabled. This is the true massacre.

How do the Iranian people see the bombing of a school then? As a liberation?

It’s really difficult as part of the brutal oppression by the regime is to keep people / women off line. So the voices that are heard are not theirs.

I’m sorry this is happening and hope you get what you are hoping for.

@ThereAreOnlyShadesOfGrey I hope you never have to have family in a war torn country that have either bad or worse options to think about.

Your tone is so goady that it is hard to respond but ofcourse Iranians do not see it as liberation. But I believe one of two things.

1.The Islamic regime themselves bombed the school of girls to show the world ‘the evils of the West’. I put nothing past them. They are capable of raping children, shooting toddlers in the eyes and genitals. They use children as human shields. So yes this scenario is very plausible to me.

2 Even if this is the case, it is not a ‘massacre’, it is a misfire with absolutely terrible consequences.

From your tone, you are able to ask me this so casually so please do not pretend to care about the Iranians and conveniently forget the 30000 who have brutally lost their lives by their OWN government already.

@EasternStandard Yes I do really understand this. There have been complete internet blackouts since February. It is a strategy used to maximum effect by the Islamic regime, so that the Western world do not understand how the Iranians feel or think. It silences the Iranians in order for the Islamic regime to control the narrative and propagate their Islamic propaganda. But the reality is from the videos we are seeing that do come through and families in Iran who have contact, they are incredibly thankful for outside support from the US and Israel.

The way I would describe the Islamic regime to make it most understandable, it is very much like George Orwell’s 1984.

This quote from the Guardian article explains the regime’s tactics well

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2026/jan/27/iran-protests-death-toll-disappeared-bodies-mass-burials-30000-dead

Even as medical staff attempt to share their testimony and data, many fear that the true number of dead may never be known, concealed by an orchestrated national effort by authorities to obscure the death toll.

“These mechanisms include discouraging hospital attendance, removing bodies from standard forensic pathways, relocating large numbers of corpses beyond documented facilities, and limiting the ability of medical staff to register causes of death,” the doctors’ observations conclude.
Taken together Ahmadi says, “they form a system designed not only to suppress protest, but to suppress memory”

Definitely stand with Iranian women, but am unhappy with the inertia of the international community as a whole and the illegal nature of these attacks.
Trump has acted in a vacuum left by the UN.
When the international framework is weak, people like Trump (and Putin) start making up their own rules. That leaves ALL of us in a very vulnerable position.

i do not believe that what is currently happening is giving Iranian women a "chance of liberation" at all. It's giving them even more grief and a very real chance of death (whether that's direct from a bomb striike in a heavily populated civilian area or a longer/slower death by eg cancers caused by the deliberate ecological devestation of the cdountry - where pollution is raining from the skies).

Israel doesn't really care about 'regime change' or women's rights - they just want to annihilate as much of Iran's capability to function as they can.
Trump has never given a fuck about women's liberation or autonomy. And is being played by the Israelis.

I hate the Islamic regime, but recognise that they're actually amongst the only people standing up to Israel's genocide of the Palestinians/ the USA's imperialist tendencies, so find myself wanting them to 'win' this war. Even though nobody ever really wins in warfare, especially not the planet we all live on.

I don't think this the best way to change things in Iran.
And in any case I don't think it's likely to be effective.
And Pahlavi is not the answer!

Trump and Hegseth - like Netanyahu - are murderous, deranged, war criminals, and should be treated as such. It is extremely hypocritical for anyone in the US to talk about Iran being governed by a regime run by religious fanatics without recognising that they have the same problem.

Given how well Afghanistan’s regime change worked for women … I really fear

what tends to happen is that the neutrals in Iran will now be more extreme - you will have more extremists as a result and the only way to prevent this is genocide

because not everyone in Iran wanted regime change even if a majority did

It’s so awful.

It’s appalling. I stand with the women of Iran, in hoping that something good comes from this and that there’s a brighter future ahead. I wish I knew a sure fire way of getting there.

I agree. But I am afraid I don't think this war will achieve that brighter future. Trump and Netanyahu care nothing about the women of Iran, as pps have said.

The thing is whatever the reason behind Trump’s decision, he is the only one who has actually done something.
as many Iranians in France feel they have been let down by the west.

so yes I do dislike trump et Netanyaou, i do feel his motivations can be suspicious, but i DO stand with thr people of Iran today and tomorrow and I hope that the future is bright with a democratie.

the Mollahs regime is responsible for a lot of the issues in the region. It needs to go.

and yes what they did to their people is unforgettable and unforgivable.

Well said @Bubblesgun!

Hmm, my friend who is Iranian has a far more nuanced view than this.

She is pro the fall of the Iranian regime yet anti the loss of innocent Iranian civilian lives, the bombing of schools and the complete devastation of infrastructure.

She also does not trust the US-Israeli leadership.

Which I think is the stance of many.

I’m not sure anyone else will do much. Which means if this does end here everyone just forgets Iranians and that is sad. I really feel for the op it must be hard to read some of the threads on here.

We have several Iranian neighbours. Some who haven't been able (too fearful) of going home for many many years. One who meets his mother in Turkey as a safe venue.

They say they have been waiting for this for over 40 years.

All of them are unanimous in their support for what is happening. All of them have some family still there.

And let’s face it - the US track record of successful regime change is pretty poor.

Why would you say that re women of Iran?

Utterly agree with this.
I truly hope that that majority of Iranians support this action. And I truly hope that it is over as quickly as possible with the least amount of bloodshed. I hope that it leads to what the Iranian people want. Peace and freedom to run their country.
But if anyone is believing that Trump has done this out of the goodness of his heart to help out ordinary Iranians then they are delusional. I will also be surprised if this intervention actually ends in a positive, long term solution for the Middle East.

I dislike Trump very much and I also stand with the women of Iran.
What’s happening with the 5 Iranian sports women seeking asylum in Australia (is it a football team?) does anyone know?