To think it’s clear as day now that Brexit was a massive mistake and we need to rejoin the EU asap

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How can anybody still argue than it was a good idea?

All both sides need to do is agree upon an actual free trade deal to make trade as frictionless as it used to be, but to allow the UK to keep it's own free trade deals it made elsewhere.

A friend of mine did benefit from Brexit. His industry (tech) is overregulated in the EU and being free from these regulations meant that a company he started thrived massively and he sold it at a tidy profit.

The Boriswave was a political choice by Boris and we definitely didn't need to do it. Brexit could have been an amazing opportunity for the UK, but it was hindered massively by politicians and the civil service.

In terms of a political Union I actually like, I like the GCC. The EU is a failing bloc, we can be allies and work together and trade together without being part of the EU.

Have we actually left? I thought we were still trying to.

If the politicians had all accepted the vote and worked together a far better brexit would have been achieved. But with most MPs not agreeing it gave the EU a massive upper hand

Probably take about 20 years. IF the EU considers the application to either rejoin or do a Norway style membership. And as others have said any agreement will come with conditions.

It never ceases to amaze me how the hubris of the British actually knows no bounds. Our application might be considered, but we cannot rejoin just because we want to.

I feel bad for you all when the rest of the EU knew it would be a disaster but you were sold a lie. I am not sure there is any coming back at this point though - you were warned there would not be but I guess when you have been manipulated enough you dont see the small print. I genuinely do feel for you all over in the UK though.

And are things amazing in your country? I assume not.

I do think it's always better to be inside the tent. Nothing is perfect but with all that's going on now, a cohesive and united Europe that Britain is part of is more needed than ever.

@OhSheetaABridge in Ireland? Actually yes and definitely better than in the UK but what has that got to do with what the OP asked? It was a bad idea. No matter where I live I am still in an EU country.

It was clear as day it was a massive mistake from the get go. To cut ourselves out of our closest trading partners?

It's cost us billions in the costs, just to leave. It would cost billions to re-join. IF they would have us.

An absolute economic disaster.

We can be allies without being in a political Union......

What's so great and better about Ireland?

I knew as soon as the result came in that we were doomed and it seems I’ve been proven right over and over since. I’m far from an expert on the matter but it was a silly decision to allow the public to have a say on such an important matter whilst allowing misinformation to run rampant. People didn’t know what they were voting for or voted leave for the wrong reasons with no comprehension of what the real life consequences would be and no one peddling those lies has ever been held to account, in fact some of them are adored to this day. It was hands down one of the worst decisions this country has made in recent history in my opinion.

I would love for us to join the EU again, but I can’t see it happening anytime soon.

Nigel Farage did us dirty, and how he has any credibility now I don't know.
Vote Leave did us dirty - that Bus campaign was a huge lie but people believe the first thing they see
Cameron did us dirty - years of moaning about the 'deal' and how our deal was so bad blah blah - how did he think that would play out? And pulling the referendum stint because he couldn't control his own stupid party
The ensuing Tories did us dirty - refusing to vote for this and that. And leaving us with fucking Boris.

The public at large did us dirty. Is it the near dead older generation following him now? Mobbing outside hostels? I don't think so!

Why on EARTH does anyone trust Farage and Reform after the Brexit debacle? Bloody grifter, taking money to never turn up for his seat.

Many things but the object of the OP's thread was about the EU and we are still part of that.

I voted out, because I asked my child how he would vote. I would be all in for a non interfering trade deal. Standard rules applied to all, sign me up. Backroom conversations about you scrub my back and I scrub yours, no, thank you very much./ For clarification, I am totally in favour of student study freedoms, I am much less enthralled by youth movement freedom, just because English fluency is the passport to global freedom. Fluent spoken English is the most important skill a person needs to relocate worlwide.

It was clear before it ever happened but noone can possibly deny it now except for the hard of thinking.

This does rather suggest that you’re not aware how narrow the vote was.

Maybe the UK thought the EU would collapse without its participation. That proved hubristic anyway for sure and it's annoying a lot of people that the EU warts and all is still going strong.

Quite easily.

https://uollb.com/blogs/uol/advantages-and-disadvantages-of-brexit

I am well aware however leave won. There is nothing to change that.

Yes! Totally agree!

Farage needs to be held accountable for out and out lying. Why people would ever trust him with their vote ever again I have no idea?!

His entire schtick is a lie! A so-called man of the people who went to public school, worked in the city, who to this day hobknobs with the elite as far as they will tolerate him!

Boris’s credibility has happily been totally destroyed because of his lying and for hijacking the issue of Brexit to enhance his own personal career projectory above what was best for the country. It worries me what he is going to do next to earn enough money to support his ever-growing family.

And David Cameron was never properly held accountable for holding a referendum in the first place, the terms of which meant that a tiny percentage of the population could change the entire future and projectory of the UK, based on very few verified facts.

And for his outright complacency, and failing to emphatically put the Remain case for fear of making himself unpopular. Weak! And he was later rewarded with an FO post! Oh the irony!

Ditto Jeremy Corbyn for only promoting the concept of community and what is good for the whole, rather than the individual, only as far as it applied to his limited, narrow definition.

I haven’t forgiven any of them!

I voted to leave and wish I hadn't, I admit it was a bad decision. However, I'm not sure rejoining would be a good idea. As a PP said, we'd never get as good a deal again as we did before.
Hindsight is a great thing!

Farage was never ever involved in the Brexit negotiations at all. David Cameron was elected on a manifesto to give the UK a choice, the referendum was held and Brexit won.

The friends I have that voted leave now admit they regret that decision. They voted based on a single issue - fishing restrictions/quotas - but now say that they wished they'd considered every aspect more carefully. Hindsight is 20/20 as they say.

I would vote leave now, and I didn't in 2016. The EU really does not work .. The politicians are IMO not working for the best outcomes for all, and to be fair, there probably isn't a result that pleases everyone.

Join a trade club? yes, all in. A political cooperative........ er no, there are way way too many unexplained add on bits. I will stick with out for the time being.