Starters idiotic 40k Immigration scheme

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Wtf... maybe I'm not understanding this correctly. If you didn't get asylum you get given 40k IF YOU LEAVE? And if you don't? Do you still get to stay jn hotels etc.? I'm sick to the eyeballs of this weak government's lack of taking a strong stance. Every other European country is doing better than us. I'm not saying asylum should never happen - but we are bending over backwards while our own people are suffering. My DF mother paid taxes and worked all her life ... she has to sell her beloved small family home to pay for her care- but we'll give money and what else to illegals ? This country's decisions is making my blood boil. Point based immigration where we add to jobs that we struggle to find local talent I've got zero issue with - its fair. It's time we wake up - and uv you think IABU explain why plse ....

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This is the other side of the same coin. There isn't enough money to go around is there for both the unfortunate and the countries own needs. If there is prosperity no-one cares that much - we are not in that situation now. Perhaps the media is inflating the issue but if we cannot look after our own .. but give 10k per person of failed asylum ? And if it costs vastly more to keep them here ? The balance is wrong. Very wrong and we almost know it. My issue is why the government cannot deal with it appropriately and in context

we'll give money and what else to illegals

If it winds up people who refer to human beings as ‘illegals’ then it’s money well spent!

True that 🤣. Bloody spell check and too eager fingers. Shall I delete the tread and start a new one so we are all aligned, or do you think we can agree we all know what and who I'm talking about ?

Honestly, I wasn't sure to start with - I thought it was starters in certain jobs then I saw the 'immigration' bit.

Feel free to post a link, though 😁

Per person. Up to 40k per family

How will anyone know if they are repeat applicants?

They are destroying all their ID before they arrive!

It might be cheaper to pay 10K that go through the full court and deportation process. But the question is will that money act as enough of an incentive so that more apply and then the overall cost of running the system increases?

Probably true- can't edit it now anymore. But do you have a viewpoint to contribute ?

“While our own people are suffering”
Yes, a lot of people are really struggling, as are our public services. But to think that’s caused by asylum seekers and other immigrants and not by years of the mega rich and their corrupt mates in power syphoning off everything they can from this country is misguided at best. As is the gross way people feel comfortable dehumanising fellow human beings as ‘illegals’.

So they get 10k, leave, then jump back on a boat and repeat the cycle?

given that you have blokes in their 30s coming over and claiming they’re 16 and the government readily accepts it. How the fuck are they going to stop people coming back and claiming their 10k over and over again?!

Fingerprints?

I would hope that they would have had their fingerprints taken and photos to ensure that they can’t get back in

Not the other side of the same coin: only 0.4% of overall government spending is spent on asylum seekers. They are not to blame for the inequality in the UK. They are an easy scapegoat.

Because it's not relevant.

Asylum seeking and the problems it creates is an issue across Europe.

Other countries have taken harsher measures already, many of whom are more prosperous than the UK and have greater wealth equality. Denmark for instance.

The people in the small boats are the least of it.

If you're here legally on a student or work visa and it runs out, then just claim asylum and get your free £10k.

Home Sec has stated to keep a family of 3 in asylum accommodation for a year costs £158,000 does this include immigration lawyers and ECHR lawyers back and forth back and forth for years when they have been refused asylum - either way £30,000 for these 3 seems like a deal!

I am generally pro immigrant, so while I disagree with most of your post, I fully agree that Starmer’s up to £40k bonus which is where a family with children (£10k per person capped at £40k) have failed to qualify for asylum is starkers. It will attract yet more asylum seekers to try the UK first, even if they know they will fail they can walk away with a life changing sum of money.

The £10k per person payoff only for families with children doesn’t seem right. I would think the UK needs more young people, not fewer given the birth rate is below replacement and children are far more likely to integrate and adopt the country that gives them asylum.

Don't start that argument else you'll be on a slippy slope of the work-shy being shoveled into the Soylent Green machine before you know it.

The BBC is reporting this as very targeted on families only.
The scheme is expected to target about 150 families living in taxpayer-funded accommodation,

It’s not going to be offered to single adults or couples, unless they are reporting it differently in the UK?

I’m an expat in the US

Indeed. The OP expects the tax payer to fund her mother's care so she can recieve an unearned handout in inheritance. I don't know why I'm supposed to be OK with that but up in arms at this proposal. I'd prefer my money to go towards helping a child resettle than to protecting someone's inheritance.

Asylum seeking and the problems its creates is an issue across Europe: they are consequences of colonial exploitation. The former colonial powers should acknowledge their financial, moral, ethical obligations. They colonized and called themselves ‘expats’, the asylum seekers coming in return - often fleeing horrendous circumstances - are called ‘illegals’.

With respect . I simply don't believe that figure. Please show us the actual report so we can see for ourselves. If it truly was only 0 4% I wouldn't give two hoots!

Numbers from the Community Integrated Advice Centre (CIAC)

I’m furious the giant Orange is busy creating another asylum crisis for Europe and the Middle East. He knows damn well that the refugees aren’t going to be crossing the Atlantic. He’s probably actually happy and thinking this is a big middle finger to Europe as he’s been doing nothing but insulting every European leader since he took office.