Starters idiotic 40k Immigration scheme

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Wtf... maybe I'm not understanding this correctly. If you didn't get asylum you get given 40k IF YOU LEAVE? And if you don't? Do you still get to stay jn hotels etc.? I'm sick to the eyeballs of this weak government's lack of taking a strong stance. Every other European country is doing better than us. I'm not saying asylum should never happen - but we are bending over backwards while our own people are suffering. My DF mother paid taxes and worked all her life ... she has to sell her beloved small family home to pay for her care- but we'll give money and what else to illegals ? This country's decisions is making my blood boil. Point based immigration where we add to jobs that we struggle to find local talent I've got zero issue with - its fair. It's time we wake up - and uv you think IABU explain why plse ....

Surely now they will bring their families (or other friends relatives) documents passports/marriage certs all regularly not provided.

it makes it very attractive to bring/coerce/persuade/traffick others with a guaranteed £40k payoff after you've been housed and fed for year(s) whilst your application is processed?

They’ll return anyway. And then we’ll pay again because we don’t have the balls to just say no, go away.

Get thee to you tube like every other keen commentator on public matters 🤣

You’d hope they would be finger printed or retina scanned to prevent this surely?

I feel like advertising this windfall may not act as a great deterrent?

And failed the appeal it says (telegraph) so end of the road……

Have any of the posters here looked at the details of the proposal?
You can't just pop someone one a plane and wave goodbye, it's is far more complicated than that.
I'm not saying this is a good plan, but it is far more nuanced than you would know from this thread.

Can they then come back a second time and get it again? I heard on a radio show that the average yearly salary for countries like Afghanistan and Eritrea is £2500 a year. So £40,000 is 16 years worth of annual salary...

Well it should be as easy as "popping someone on a plane and waving goodbye" if they are here without permission. If we had proper borders. Bearing in mind defence is becoming more relevant these days.

That might mean they won't get the £40k but it wouldn't stop them being housed and fed, which potentially would cost us more than £40k

But putting them on a plane and not paying them £10k is cheaper surely?

every-time they come back (biometric proof withstanding) once application and appeal is refused?

We keep fingerprint data etc and anyone arriving again will not get asylum. All they would've done is pay the people smugglers the money.

Give them nothing but a DNA test on deportation.

Then we will recognise then if they try to come back.

I’m a bit confused. Is this a thread where we try to compete to “look” more intelligent than each other?

Are all dyslexic people of lower intelligence?

What is the point of your very well written, detailed explanation of the subject matter and worthwhile contribution to the thread? Just to demonstrate your superior intelligence?

Surely if they are fleeing torture, persecution etc, no amount of money would tempt them back there? It's as if they aren't genuine refugees isn't it?

It won't stop people from returning.

There's already a problem with asylum seekers having their application rejected, deported then coming back, sometimes within days. Sometimes they do it several times.

Can you get the cash, leave, and then come back ?

As i understand it the payment is only applicable to failed asylum seekers who have already lost an appeal.

so even if you KNOW you don’t genuinely need asylum it must be pretty attractive to many to come be housed, clothed and fed go through the system and be paid £40k (as a pp said may time your average national wage) to eventually leave?

or am I missing something?

It’s a boost for traffickers who need to sell.

Considering EU+ and UK: the UK takes only approximately 11%of asylum seekers and adjusted to the population it ranks about 15th. Why not complain about the unequal distribution of wealth in the UK, instead of kicking the even less fortunate?

It's quite attractive isn't it.

If you're going to slag off Starmer, at least spell his name correctly.

A lot of failed asylum seekers are fleeing war torn countries. Plenty of Afghan and Syrian asylum seekers have their asylum claims rejected. Your country being in a civil war, or having an oppressive and bloodthirsty government, is not sufficient grounds to claim UK asylum.

This is one of the difficulties of deporting people. There are no direct flights to their countries of origin, it’s not possible to safely charter one because none of the airlines are willing to fly there, and in any case the local government (if there is one) doesn’t want the people back so makes zero effort to facilitate a flight.

PP who talk about “popping them on a plane” don’t know what they are talking about.

It does seem ludicrous - and if you are affected by poverty - angers so many.
Deportations are extremely expensive 💸
Forced removals involve many costs:

• Detention centres
• Security escorts (often 2–3 officers per person)
• Charter or commercial flights
• Legal appeals and court processes

For example, reports around the UK’s deportation system have shown that some removals can cost tens of thousands of pounds per person once legal and operational costs are included. By comparison, paying £10,000 for a voluntary departure may actually save money.

Please climb under a rock. You are missing the point entirely . My Dear Friend's mother is unlikely to give ME any inheritance. No point trying to correct you as you clearly don't see the issue of the country not helping their own. Don't reply back plse